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USS Independence, LCS 2...WOW! MUST SEE
instapinch.com ^ | 5/02/08

Posted on 05/03/2008 1:58:16 PM PDT by LJayne

I have no idea how GenDynamics is doing, but this first ship looks absolutley wicked!

Its tri-maran hull combined with the capabilities and look of a warship makes it something out of this world!

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KEYWORDS: generaldynamics; lcs2; usnavy; ussindependence
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1 posted on 05/03/2008 1:58:17 PM PDT by LJayne
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To: LJayne

Oooh-ee! I want one of them!


2 posted on 05/03/2008 2:02:27 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: LJayne

Way C-O-O-L-!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 05/03/2008 2:03:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
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To: Nailbiter

view later


4 posted on 05/03/2008 2:03:55 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: LJayne

Lord Vader your ship is ready .


5 posted on 05/03/2008 2:06:39 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: LJayne

Very cool, but also very over budget (as is Lockheed’s competing ship). There’s talk the Navy will cancel it.


6 posted on 05/03/2008 2:06:58 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: LJayne

One look at that hull and you know it’s gonna be fast.


7 posted on 05/03/2008 2:07:43 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: LJayne

http://instapinch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/in-dock-prior-to-launch.JPG

http://instapinch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/indy-afloat.JPG

http://instapinch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/pierside-austal-6.JPG


8 posted on 05/03/2008 2:07:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Kathy in Alaska; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk would want to be at the helm of this one.
Tonk, know you'll always be with the Quartermaster and Helmsmen.

9 posted on 05/03/2008 2:09:17 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
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To: Joiseydude
One look at that hull and you know it’s gonna be fast.

Which is why the whole LCS concept is fundamentally flawed from the start and massively over-budget. The speed wasn't worth it.

At least LCS-2 isn't quite the embarassing disaster LCS-1 is.

10 posted on 05/03/2008 2:12:18 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: LJayne

Perfect for ramming.


11 posted on 05/03/2008 2:12:34 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
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To: LJayne
this first ship looks absolutley wicked

I fear you may be missing the main point of the new Littoral Combat Ships. Appearances aside, the main new feature of these ships is that there is a very small number of crew required. These ships are far more automated than anything previously conceived.

12 posted on 05/03/2008 2:17:31 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: LJayne
Perfect for taking out the Sea Shepard and all he other Enviro boats.
13 posted on 05/03/2008 2:19:09 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism is dying. Thank God!)
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To: MosesKnows

It looks very dubious whether they will be able to be manned by the small number of people claimed.

The Mission packages have huge numbers of unmanned air, surface, and underwater vehicles. They’re unmanned, but require a lot of specialized maintenance. The FFG-7 ships in the 70s ended up needing 20 more crew than they thought, leaving the ships pretty cramped.


14 posted on 05/03/2008 2:23:11 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: LJayne

I suspect there are Admirals who would trade places with senior O-4 LCDRs to command this ship.


15 posted on 05/03/2008 2:23:22 PM PDT by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: MosesKnows

“Littoral Combat Ships”

To me this sounds like a mission for the Coast Guard, not the U.S. Navy.


16 posted on 05/03/2008 2:23:33 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Jacquerie
I suspect there are Admirals who would trade places with senior O-4 LCDRs to command this ship.

That wouldn't help. These are O-5 commands.

17 posted on 05/03/2008 2:31:54 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: LJayne

18 posted on 05/03/2008 2:35:17 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: LJayne

I am sorry to see it named the Independence, only because the first war ship I ever visited was the REAL USS Independence
in Norfolk, back in 1963. It is/was quite a ship. I had a great tour by an old ham radio friend who was a legal officer at the naval base. The Intrepid, a smaller carrier was docked beside the Independence.


19 posted on 05/03/2008 2:36:08 PM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

That’s right. Senior O-4s, the best of their year group who are assured of O-5 upon taking command.


20 posted on 05/03/2008 2:44:34 PM PDT by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: LJayne

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/chinese_stealth.aspx

Nice time for the USN to try to play catch-up to the Chicoms.


21 posted on 05/03/2008 2:46:23 PM PDT by Sundog (Barak Hussein Amoeba; It's all about change.)
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To: LJayne

Reminds me of the Monitor and the Merrimack!


22 posted on 05/03/2008 2:49:34 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: LJayne

GenDynamics can be proud of the “Independence!”


23 posted on 05/03/2008 2:58:17 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: blam

That is awesome!


24 posted on 05/03/2008 3:00:36 PM PDT by LJayne (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because of us, not outsiders.)
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To: blam

I work at Bender; I’ve got to know, where did you get this picture? I took one just like it.


25 posted on 05/03/2008 3:05:33 PM PDT by suthener
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To: LJayne

The slanted sides remind me of the C.S.S. Virginia(Merrimack).

This is a whole new paradigm for warship design. Very much cool!!

May she always triumph over her challengers.


26 posted on 05/03/2008 3:08:43 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: suthener; LJayne

It’s at the site posted by LJayne.


27 posted on 05/03/2008 3:13:38 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: LJayne
This ship was built about two miles from where the CSS Hunley was built.

"H. L. Hunley, almost 40 feet (12 m) long, was built at Mobile, Alabama, launched in July 1863, and shipped by rail to Charleston, SC on August 12, 1863. On February 17, 1864, Hunley attacked and sank the 1800-ton steam sloop USS Housatonic in Charleston harbor, but soon after, Hunley also apparently sank, drowning all 8 crewmen. "


28 posted on 05/03/2008 3:18:03 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: LJayne

Jules Verne would have been proud.


29 posted on 05/03/2008 3:23:04 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: LJayne

Charlie don’t surf.....


30 posted on 05/03/2008 3:24:41 PM PDT by Feckless (En Temps)
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To: Jacquerie
That’s right. Senior O-4s, the best of their year group who are assured of O-5 upon taking command.

The PCOs of both the Freedom's crews are O-5s already.

31 posted on 05/03/2008 3:25:44 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Might not want to use it for ramming, it’s aluminum hulled. But it is very cool looking!

I’m very interested in seeing how these two radically different designs (LCS 1 and 2) stack up to each other. Here’s hoping that at least one of them can get the job done at an acceptable cost.


32 posted on 05/03/2008 3:49:43 PM PDT by hork
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To: LJayne

Wow, very impressive.


33 posted on 05/03/2008 3:52:15 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: LJayne
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34 posted on 05/03/2008 4:02:07 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: LJayne

feh...

Looks like a mini frigate with pontoons...

If it don’t launch aircraft, then it ain’t....


35 posted on 05/03/2008 4:10:09 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: pabianice

Thanks for the link pabianice.


36 posted on 05/03/2008 4:14:18 PM PDT by LJayne (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because of us, not outsiders.)
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To: SuziQ

Have you seen the museum near Norfolk with the exhibit about the Monitor and Merrimack! It is phenomenal.

http://www.mariner.org/


37 posted on 05/03/2008 4:15:22 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: LJayne

BUMP for later


38 posted on 05/03/2008 4:20:42 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: LJayne

Oh, very nice!


39 posted on 05/03/2008 4:22:18 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

Check out the tag for the General Dynamics Littoral Combat Ship.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/lcs-gd.htm


40 posted on 05/03/2008 4:25:40 PM PDT by LJayne (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because of us, not outsiders.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

Cool! I hadn’t heard of that one!


41 posted on 05/03/2008 4:26:07 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: kbennkc

“Lord Vader your ship is ready .”

Lord Vader and his 12 penetrators?


42 posted on 05/03/2008 4:31:18 PM PDT by doxteve
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To: Jeff Head

Hey Jeff, check this out!


43 posted on 05/03/2008 4:58:21 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Saw it, and had already posted it on another forum. Got beat to it here.

The one pic seemks to show both a 20mm CIWS and a RAM launcher. That would be good for anti missile defense.

The Bofors au57mm auto cannon will be a great littoral weapon.

Lots of room on the helo pad and in the hangar, and lots of room (for this size vessel) in the ROR cargo area, as well as a small well deck for spec ops.

I like the General Dynamics Design.

44 posted on 05/03/2008 5:09:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Wow! That is one mean looking warship in profile as well. Thanks for the pic! I hope that the Navy is able to procure enough of these to keep on projecting American power well into the future.


45 posted on 05/03/2008 5:12:13 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Feckless

“Charlie don’t surf....”

Good one! Missed by most I guess. And there’s the rub - how well the Chicoms would do against the US Navy when the metal starts flying.


46 posted on 05/03/2008 5:13:54 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: SandRat

Looks like the Monitor.


47 posted on 05/03/2008 5:14:23 PM PDT by devane617 (Rush Limbaugh is stuck on STUPID. Are you too?)
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To: LJayne

I’ll bet she moves quick through the water.


48 posted on 05/03/2008 5:17:00 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Well, these are called "Littoral Combat Ships", or LCS> They are specifically designed to fight in the shallow waters and take on samll craft and particularly the diesel/electric subs so many nations are building.

They will come with a number of mission packages that can be changed out in a day to refit them for different functions. Some of the packages are ASW for anti-submarine, anti-mine operations, special operations, and probably one for anti-surface (ship on ship combat) missions.

Each displaces as much as a medium sized frigate at about 2800 tons full load. Each has a common defense suite and sensor suite that includes a principle gun and short range anti-air defense.

We are building two brands in competition now, this trimaran design from General Dynamics, and a more traditional hull desgin from Lockheed, which was luanched last year.

Here is a poc of the Lockheed vessel, LCS-1 USS Freedom.

Current competition calls for 3 ships of the best design and 2 ships of the next best design. Many feel that both ships will be built, maybe 36 or more of the winner, and 24 or so of the 2nd place. But we shall see.

49 posted on 05/03/2008 5:41:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: blam
That thing reminds me of Dark Vader's helmet in aluminum.
50 posted on 05/03/2008 5:44:08 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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