Skip to comments.China Builds Secret Nuclear Submarine Base in South China Sea
Posted on 05/03/2008 7:46:40 PM PDT by neverdem
China has secretly built an underground nuclear submarine base in the South China Sea, posing a new threat to powers in the region a development the Pentagon says it has known about for at least two years.
Satellite photos of the base obtained by FOX News show a large harbor and massive tunnels that defense experts say could shelter many nuclear subs.
The Defense Department has estimated that by 2010 China will have five operational 094-class nuclear submarines capable of carrying 12 nuclear missiles each, according to the Daily Telegraph.
According to the Defense Department, China has 57 attack submarines, but these satellite pictures suggest their 094-class nuclear submarine may already be available.
Its very significant to have further visual evidence of the kinds of military build-up that theyve been engaged in for some time, said Stephen Yates, a senior fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council.
Photos of the base were taken on November 28 by DigitalGlobes QuickBird satellite, and first appeared in the military journal Janes Intelligence Review.
The secret base, known as Sanya, is located on the southern tip of Hainan Island in the South China Sea. Defense experts say the harbor feeds into waters so deep that the submarines could launch without having to surface, making it difficult to detect them from the sky.
That may pose a threat to U.S. naval dominance in the region, and to the nations just hundreds of miles from Hainans shores.
It really is a point of force projection out into the South China Sea, and the South China Sea is a very, very important waterway critical to energy security, said Yates.
The Pentagon has known about the secret submarine base for more than two years. It first showed up in press reports in 2007 and was mentioned in...
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Not all THAT secret, apparently.
Really, how do you build a secret base in the age of satellites and such?
The article itself contradicts the headline.
Doesn’t sound like a secret to me.
nah, I think that was Dr. No’s place in ‘62.
did the Clintons help them get the technology?
its a secret
If it is secret, how come it is posted here on FR. Shhhhhhh! Don’t tell anyone.
My first thought. But you got to it first.
More like Dr. Evil in the Austin Powers movies.
Dr. Evil: Gentlemen, I have a plan. It's called blackmail. The Royal Family of Britain are the wealthiest landowners in the world. Either the Royal Family pays us an exorbitant amount of money, or we make it seen that Prince Charles has had an affair outside of marriage and therefore would have to divorce!
Number Two: Prince Charles *did* have an affair. He admitted it, and they are now divorced.
Dr. Evil: Right, people you have to tell me these things, okay? I've been frozen for thirty years, okay? Throw me a frickin' bone here! I'm the boss! Need the info.
Dr. Evil: Okay no problem. Here's my second plan. Back in the 60's, I had a weather changing machine that was, in essence, a sophisticated heat beam which we called a "laser." Using these "lasers," we punch a hole in the protective layer around the Earth, which we scientists call the "Ozone Layer." Slowly but surely, ultraviolet rays would pour in, increasing the risk of skin cancer. That is unless the world pays us a hefty ransom.
Number Two: [pause] That also already has happened.
Dr. Evil: Sh*t. Oh h*ll, let's just do what we always do. Hijack some nuclear weapons and hold the world hostage. Yeah? Good! Gentlemen, it has come to my attention that a breakaway Russian Republic called Kreplachistan will be transferring a nuclear warhead to the United Nations in a few days. Here's the plan. We get the warhead and we hold the world ransom for... ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
Number Two: Don't you think we should ask for *more* than a million dollars? A million dollars isn't exactly a lot of money these days. Virtucon alone makes over 9 billion dollars a year!
Dr. Evil: Really? That's a lot of money.
Dr. Evil: Okay then, we hold the world ransom for...
Dr. Evil: One... Hundred... BILLION DOLLARS!
This evil submarine base brought to you by Bill and Hill, masters of treason , lying, and just about any other rotten thing you can think of.
Makes an excellent target.
Better yet, we’ll just pick them off one at a time, just like we did the russians.
It’s the way we do business. The right way.
The secret isn’t the base, the secret is how many ballistic missile submarines they have in dock or how many they have managed to get into deep water between satellite passes.
If we can’t see the slips, we can’t tell if they have everything in the underground base or if they have all steamed out on a first strike mission.
When the time comes, the chinese aren’t going to telegraph it. They will attempt a decapitation strike before sending out their surface navy.
One thought might be to quietly emplace captor mines a dozen or so miles off the coast waiting for activation orders. Then put listening devices on the floor under the egress route.
Yeah, like as if the space is not heavily monitored by the Chinese, in the first place.
Face it, the Chinese are not rag-head cavemen.
Is it because Communist China is our friend? Walmart? Olympics?
Nice little bunker buster right up the pooper will take care of this place.
LOL! Anyone else find that funny?
Call me a cynic...Or just someone who takes pictures like this at face value...
But it looks to me like the opening into the side of the coast there is a bit above mean sea level???
Unless the Chinese have developed some sort of new propulsion device that gives their subs a “Flipper” manuever...I’m not sure how the subs are going to get inside the barn there...
Yes, for some reason I see a road (bridge) going across the front of that opening...But that looks like a problem waiting to happen when they need that bridge to work and it decides to break down...
Not much secrecy here...
You 007’ers are really cracking me up though!!! ;-)
Just a guess but I'm thinking it's because we're not a war with China.
Digging holes is not exactly high-tech. I'm sure China could have done it without help from the Clintons.
It is widely believed in the intelligence community that the Chinese used stolen plans for a secret American sub base for the construction.
Disney/ABC revealed that the plans were actually those used in the movie 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
It’s the subs that go in the holes that are a little harder to make. Chinese spying during the Clinton years gave them the know how to build those subs.
Having seen pictures of those subs I suggest that they owe more to early model Soviet Deltas than anything the U.S. has made for the past 50 years.
Its the subs that go in the holes that are a little harder to make. Chinese spying during the Clinton years gave them the know how to build those subs.
If the subs go into those holes, than sooner or later they will want to come back out. Now what if those holes closed up somehow???
Last I heard, the United States has not declared war on anyone at this point.
However, since we are not at war with Communist China, are you suggesting they are not a direct threat to the U.S. and our allies?
Do you not believe as they build up their military into a world class, massive war machine, they will not use it on us, or our allies?
Just guessing, but I believe it's only a matter of time when this will occur, not if. And if we stand by and watch, they'll eventually have us on our knees, both economically, and militarily.
Are you invested in Communist China?
Agreed. But there are ways to do these types of operations, and to put out enough defensive sensors to preclude such operations from occurring is a very, very expensive operation. Just as the ocean hides submarines, it hides much smaller things as well.
Maybe we already have? Yah Think?
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