Evidence Of Iranian Involvement In Iraq Mounts And Is Expansive

Strata Sphere ^ | Monday, May 5th, 2008 at 9:39 am | AJStrata

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The evidence of Iran’s military involvement in Iraq is growing rapidly as US and Iraqi forces take out the Mahdi Militia fighters. This evidence is bringing the situation between Iran and the US to a head, because the US cannot allow any nation to target its troops without responding with swift and deadly action. Otherwise it is open season on Americans around the world. If we don’t take action when our troops are killed then it means we are too weak-kneed to take action when any American is the target of foreign state aggression.

Michael Gordon of the NY Times notes today the Iran has allowed military training camps to be set up near Tehran where Iraqi militia fighters are trained by Hezbollah trainers (trained by Iranians originally, of course):

Militants from the Lebanese group Hezbollah have been training Iraqi militia fighters at a camp near Tehran, according to American interrogation reports that the United States has supplied to the Iraqi government.

An American official said the account of Hezbollah’s role was provided by four Shiite militia members who were captured in Iraq late last year and questioned separately.

The United States has long charged that the Iranians were training Iraqi militia fighters in Iran, which Iran has consistently denied, and there have been previous reports about Hezbollah operatives in Iraq.

But the Americans say the reports of Hezbollah’s role at the Iranian camp offer important details about Iranian assistance to the militias, including efforts Iran appears to be making to train the fighters in unobtrusive ways.

The thing to take away from this snippet is someone is running a military training camp outside Tehran. Here in the US we arrested people for attempting to perform military training using paintball guns

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Lengthy article with Links to MSM articles.....

The closing....

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There is no need to debate anymore. We can allow Iraq and Iran one final opportunity to fix this - and that would require exposing all the terrorists Iran trained and armed in Iraq so they can be rounded up and dealt with. But only an act clear and obvious like this would suffice at this stage. Iran has been caught lying to the international community’s face while dealing death behind the scenes. They do not deserve any leniency or good faith or any more time to stall. Take action now or receive some action very soon.

[CharlesWayneCT]

We should sell a few of our best missles to Iraq, and let the Iraqi military target and take out the terror camps in Iran.

Iran is promoting a war against Iraq, so Iraq should be able to respond.

If Iran launches a full-scale attack based on Iraqi responses, then we can jump in under protection agreements.

[AngelesCrestHighway]

Only a matter of time before we turn Iran into glass.....

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

A more direct or obvious link to the LA Times interview with Hakim's son in Tehran:

IRAN: Hakim's son on Tehran, Baghdad, Washington tangle

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For nearly three decades, one of Iraq’s most powerful Shiite Muslim families and Washington’s closest partner in the Iraqi government has maintained strong ties with the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Abdelaziz Hakim, leader of the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council, or SIIC, and a relatively moderate Shiite leader who is a key player in his country, plays a tricky balancing act, maintaining cordial ties with both the U.S. and Iran at a time of unprecedented international tension between the two longtime rivals.

The troubles came to a boil this weekend as the Iraqi government dispatched a team to Tehran to discuss U.S. allegations that Iran is smuggling weapons to Iraqi militants.

One of Hakim’s sons, Mohsen Hakim, oversees his party’s downtown Tehran office. Over tea and fruit Saturday, the younger Hakim, 34, spoke for half an hour with the Los Angeles Times in an illuminating interview about the troubled relations among Iran, Iraq and the U.S. and how they roil the entire region, from Afghanistan to Lebanon.

"The Iraqi security issue is not separated from other issues in the Middle East," he said. "On the whole, security in the region is not divisible. If there is no security in Iraq , there is no security anywhere in the region. We look at the security of Iraq as a organic security package for the whole region."

The whole interview is transcribed below.

LOS ANGELES TIMES: What is SIIC’s attitude toward the accusations of increased Iranian involvement in violence in Iraq?

****************See the Link for the Interview....

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The troubles came to a boil this weekend as the Iraqi government dispatched a team to Tehran to discuss U.S. allegations that Iran is smuggling weapons to Iraqi militants.

LA Times is spinning... that Iraq is investigating the US Allegations...

In fact we have a thread here: Iraq Says It Has Proof Of Iranian Meddling: Tehran Funneling Weapons

And it's from the Washington Post.....

[Allegra]

This is a big test for Iraq's leadership.

Do it right, Iraq. We're right behind you.

And you won't get a second chance.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Another FR Thread:

Hezbollah Trains Iraqis In Iran, Officials Say

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BAGHDAD: Militants from the Lebanese group Hezbollah have been training Iraqi militia fighters at a camp near Tehran, according to American interrogation reports that the United States has supplied to the Iraqi government.

An American official said the account of Hezbollah's role was provided by four Shiite militia members who were captured in Iraq late last year and questioned separately.

[pissant]

Hopefully, our two carriers in the Persian Gulf will be busy.

[elhombrelibre]

Thanks for the ping, Ernest. “Blood on their hands” ping.

[Fichori]

"Here in the US we arrested people for attempting to perform military training using paintball guns" [excerpt]

We do?

Surly there is more to it than that.

[rlmorel]

Iran is involved in shipping arms into Iran?

Who woulda thunk it?

[stand watie]

BUMP!

free dixie,sw

[purpleraine]

Doesn’t matter, Bush has been beaten into submission, no more wars and the dems are waiting for Iran to nuke their respective home towns before they say anything. I guess if they bomb Tel Aviv, Clinton would do something.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Take action now or receive some action very soon.

The water is starting to boil. I'm really hoping we decide to finally vent the steam on Iran.

[steel_resolve]

You are mistaken if you think Bush is beaten into submission over the Iran issue. The proof that the Mainstream media/Dems/Europeans arrogantly demand has been paid for in American blood - But proof we have and with proof, Bush will act.

[forkinsocket]

There have always been Iraqi Shi’ites who are traitors for Iran, dating back to ancient times. This is going to be an ongoing problem that needs to be dealt with.

[jhpigott]

ping

[purpleraine]

When Bush wakes up, give me a call.

[FARS]

One source of Iraqi traitors we all forget are the thousands of Iraqi prisoners captured by Iran in the 8-year Iran-Iraq war who were never repatriated.

Instead these true Iraqi nationals were kept for the next couple of decades in Iran, brainwashed and trained to become pro-Iran agents and pronised to be sent back to their families in Iraq if they agreed to work for Iran.

Quite a large labor pool of hard to spot traitors and infiltrators. Iran has paymasters scattered around Iraq who pay these (and other) free lancers a monthly stipend, including regular bribes to Iraqi government and military officials.

Hard to weed out these home grown implants.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[purpleraine]

When Bush wakes up, give me a call.

[Vinnie]

Can’t we get a bevy of Predators patrolling the Iran-Iraq border?
Blast anything crossing.

[eleni121]

Iran ..here we go again...again...and again.

There is something fundamentally flawed about this region beyond the mohamedan cult. They have been attacking their neighbors and farther out for several thousands of years now.

[Lady Jag]

Better late than never.

Thanks for the ping.

[TomasUSMC]

Hard to weed out these home grown implants.

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very easy to weed out. Start obliterating Iran. When Iran see that it is about to become extinct, it send out the comms to its people to stop the shiite.

Then we obliterate them anyway.

[Marine_Uncle]

Perhaps soon it shall be their blood that leaks from their hands. I am sure we will obtain precise coordinates for the various training camps. Cruise missile time may be at hand.

[FARS]

SIDEBAR - have you seen this? Has the occasional “gap” but could be a great portable Bible? Definitely outside my field of expertise but worth your feedback.

http://alanpetersworld.blogspot.com/2008/05/bible-at-your-fingertips.html

[airborne]

If you’re on line in a Muslim country, make sure you delete your cookies!

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Thanks for sharing!

[airborne]

Hopefully, our two carriers in the Persian Gulf will be busy.

Expect a few carriers to be sent to help with typhoon relief.

[RaceBannon]

Pretty cool, but unless you’re a Bible student, a person would not know where to go to look something up, they would be forced to actually...GASP...read it ALL!

[BIGLOOK]

Iran. State sponsored terrorism, state sanctioned mercenaries, state sanctuary for Iraqi rebel factions, state funding and logistical support for insurrection.

State of War!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Octar]

When Bush wakes up, give me a call.

No, this is a job for the Iraqis to do. We can supply them with suitable equipment, but this is their fight now.

[1035rep]

bookmarked for later

[billmor]

“No, this is a job for the Iraqis to do. We can supply them with suitable equipment, but this is their fight now.”

Iran has declared Jihad on the Western countries...That’s us and since we have the manpower and the high technology to launch cruise missiles, it will be up to us to carry this battle to the Iranians. They need a wake up call not to retaliate against us or Iraq otherwise it will get a lot rougher for them...The Iraqi’s can handle the ground war in Iraq, but hitting Iran calls for heavy duty weapons that we have and we can hit them again and again...

[4woodenboats]

Thank you FARS for putting my Bible at my fingertips. That was very thoughtful.

[Brilliant]

I like the photo of the guy. He apparently doesn’t want anyone to know what he looks like.

[purpleraine]

The Iranians have been supporting terrorism and committing acts of war against the US for almost 30 years. How you see the response as an Iraqi responsibility is beyond me.

[bvw]

T A C A M O

Move on them.

[Red6]

The Iranians still deny it? LOL

Deny, deny, deny, and make counter acusations! It’s a big game. The next time we take some Iranian Quds forces as guests in Iraq, how should we deal with that? They are obviously not in Iraq under the flag of their country according to their own leadership.

[PsyOp]

"The Iraqi security issue is not separated from other issues in the Middle East," he said. "On the whole, security in the region is not divisible. If there is no security in Iraq , there is no security anywhere in the region. We look at the security of Iraq as a organic security package for the whole region."

This is the key statement of Iranian policy. They are admitting that supporting terrorist in Iraq and trying to destabilize the government is part of their larger goal of destroying Isreal and creating as many beholden puppet states in the middle east as they can.

Or, as Barak Hussein Obama might put it, "Iran could no more stop supporting terrorism in Iraq, than it could stop supporting it in Gaza, Isreal and Lebanon..."

[G8 Diplomat]

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks FARS.