Mo GOP targeting 300 pro-Ron Paul at Monday ‘credentials meeting’

STLtoday.com ^ | 05/05/2008 | Jo Mannies

[Rebelbase]

According to an email from some Missouri supporters of Ron Paul, sent late Sunday night, the state Republican Party has scheduled a special “credentials meeting” for 10 a.m. Monday at the Blue Armory in Jefferson City.

At the meeting, according to the email, about 300 of the 1,900 elected delegates to the state GOP convention May 30-June 1 must disprove allegations that — presumably — accuse the targeted delegates of not being bona fide Republicans and/or not committed to supporting John McCain for president.

[Rebelbase]

Loyalty oaths to John McCain being required by the Mo. GOP?

[glorgau]

Can’t have anyone intrude upon the old monopoly.

[Cyclone Conservative]

That’s just not right. Agree or disagree with Ron Paul, his people worked through the proper channels(not the media) to try and elect their guy and now it’s basically a witch hunt for Ron Paul supporters at state conventions.

[MitchellC]

Whatever the case is here, the GOP reaaallllly needs to clean the rules up by closing the primaries and making the primaries results stick, so that just anyone can't walk off the street into a convention and derail the delegates process.

[frankiep]

The sooner the little people realize that their voice means nothing, the better. - The American Republicrat Party

[AmericanHunter]

The more they try to shove McCain down our throats, the more that ol’ gag reflex kicks in.

[jrooney]

Nothing like a bunch of whiny Ron Paul supporters to cry foul, when they have done everything to be disruptive, rude and infringe on the rights of other voters ever since the surrender monkey announced his steroid pumped Pat Buchanan run for the presidency. Paul will NEVER win the presidency this time or any time in the future because the majority of sane voters do not like a coward that would surrender to al Qaeda.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Well, if the Paulestinians wouldn’t try to overturn the results of the actual primary, then the MoGOP wouldn’t need to resort to tactics such as this.

[HOYA97]

Exactly my thoughts! You said it much better than I ever could!!!

[Rebelbase]

Hard to tell from your rant but are you approving or disapproving of the GOP requiring John McCain loyalty oaths by convention delegates at the MO. state GOP convention?

[jrooney]

I read the article and I did not see anywhere where they were requiring loyalty oaths.

[Rebelbase]

Ron Paul supporter delegates being called to a special meeting to disprove allegations that they don’t support McCain.

What is the purpose of that? Are not delegates free to vote for whomever they like?

[jrooney]

You are the one claiming they are requiring loyalty oaths. First you put the phrase with a question mark, then make the accusation again as a statement, as if it is a fact. Where does it say in the article they are requiring loyalty oaths or is that a figment of a paranoid Paul supporting mind?

[Man50D]

The GOP elite are loyal to their socialist candidate. I'm not a Paul fan but hopefully Paulbots can create a GOP version of Operation Chaos on the convention floor to create a wide open convention thereby preventing the GOP from nominating socialist McCain.

[JOAT]

You are the one claiming they are requiring loyalty oaths.

You don't understand party politics very well.

No state wants to be the first to go on national television without 100% of their delegates supporting the annointed one.

When I went to the national convention in 1992, our state would have been the first state to announce delegates for Pat Buchannan. The party hacks were going beserk. When the Buchanan people were clearly going to stick to principles, they moved us out of alphabetical order to the end, to ensure our results would not appear during prime time.

They may not technically be 'loyalty oaths' but the state level party WILL purge dissenters early to avoid embarrassment.

[GulfBreeze]

here here!

[Cyclone Conservative]

They used the system to their advantage and the are now whiny and disruptive? When Republicans become Republican’s again this stuff won’t happen.

[jrooney]

"You don't understand party politics very well."

I think I have a pretty good handle on party politics, enough to know I should not be lectured by a freeper that wasted a vote on the antisemitic Buchanan thinking he was fit to be commander in chief.

[Designer]

special “credentials meeting”

They're going to a whole lot of extra trouble.

They could simply do as our state did once: Don't ask for the ballots!

I kept my unused ballot for a while, and eventually threw it away.

They don't need no stinkin' "credentials meeting".

[jrooney]

Hate to break the news to you, Paul is not a Republican but a Libertarian and so are most of his supporters.

[JOAT]

Where did I say I was a Buchanan delegate? You tend to jump to conclusions, as evidenced by this thread. And obviously you DON’T understand party machinations.

[Prokopton]

Hate to break the news to you, Paul is not a Republican but a Libertarian and so are most of his supporters.

Many of what are now thought of as "libertarian" positions by Republican "party people" are traditional conservative positions. The Republican party was not always socialist, you know, and FR is not a Republican forum.

[Just another Joe]

Paul is not a Republican but a Libertarian and so are most of his supporters.

He may BE a Libertarian but he's a REGISTERED Republican.

[jrooney]

Your post lent more credence to my claim versus your weak handed slap at me. Give up your mind reading job because you are pretty pitiful at it.

[RKBA Democrat]

“Hate to break the news to you, Paul is not a Republican but a Libertarian and so are most of his supporters.”

What matters here is not the philosophy, but the party registration. These folks are just as Republican as any of the closet socialists swho happen to be supporting Sen. McCain.

[RKBA Democrat]

“Loyalty oaths to John McCain being required by the Mo. GOP?”

No. Just Republican-socialism in action. To paraphrase a quote attributed to Josef Stalin: “Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.”

[Cyclone Conservative]

Hate to break the news to you but Republicans(establishment) are barely different than Democrats these days. The Republicans have abandoned conservatives and libertarians.

[jrooney]

Hate to break the news to you Paul is more inclined to support Obama (per Paul’s own words less than a week ago), the most liberal and socialist senator in the senate, than McCain, who does support most conservative causes. What does that make Paul than and those that support him?

[Designer]

"..Paul is not a Republican but a Libertarian.."

This old saw needs to be exposed for the BS it truly is.

Can you name at least two Republican former Presidents who were originally registered Democrats before converting to Republican?

According to your flawed thinking, one would need to be born into a political party in order to be a member.

As I said: BS on that one.

[jrooney]

I can name the most important former one, Reagan. Reagan was a registered democrat early in his political career. Reagan abandoned the democrat beliefs. Paul has always been a Libertarian and anyone that says otherwise, is not being truthful or not fully educated on the facts. Paul's own congressional staff, his campaign leadership all talk and walk like Libertarians. Isolationism, antisemitism and surrender are traits only a few conservative Americans appreciate. Paul wraps himself in them.

[2CAVTrooper]

“now it’s basically a witch hunt for Ron Paul supporters at state conventions”

That’s because the brownshirts err paultards have openly stated on their message boards that they will infiltrate the state conventions in order to rig the national convention in favor of that two faced lying cut and run coward from Texas.

In other words they seek to undermine the will of the people.

[Designer]

"Isolationism, antisemitism and surrender.."

Any documentaion on that, Sport?

Or just more of your BS?

FYI; Eisenhower was the other one, and IMO, he never actually gave up on the dummycrat agenda.

[2CAVTrooper]

“He may BE a Libertarian but he's a REGISTERED Republican.”

Only out of political convenience.

[Designer]

"In other words they seek to undermine the will of the people MSM."

There, I fixed your typo.

[jrooney]

Post and threads galore throughout FR, and I have responded on many of them. Your name does not ring a bell on the hundreds of threads and posts I have debated. Read up. FR carries many of Paul's worsts moments.

[2CAVTrooper]

The people voted and your senile little village idiot LOST.

[Just another Joe]

Only out of political convenience.

That may be, but he is still a registered Republican.
He has an 'R' after his name, not an 'L'

[buschbaby]

I would assume these people have been challenged by someone in their county.

According to comments on that site some of those challenged were McCain voters. All it takes is someone filling out the paperwork to bring about a challenge.

I didn't get a letter, guess no one is opposed to me going. When I show up in my rhinestone FReeper tshirt they may change their minds though. LOL

[Rebelbase]

“The people voted and your senile little village idiot LOST.”

That is not a nice way to talk about Fred Thompson.

[Rebelbase]

I’ll ask it again:

“Ron Paul supporter delegates being called to a special meeting to disprove allegations that they don’t support McCain.

What is the purpose of that? Are not delegates free to vote for whomever they like?”

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Lord knows I'm no Ron "Senior Moment" Paul supporter... but this is just flat-out w-r-o-n-g wrong.

If the delegates were fairly elected, by the party's own pre-existing rules, at the time of said election: then going back, weeks or months later, and retroactively "purging" them is Stalinist behavior on the party's part.

[swmobuffalo]

“That’s because the brownshirts err paultards have openly stated on their message boards that they will infiltrate the state conventions in order to rig the national convention in favor of that two faced lying cut and run coward from Texas.

In other words they seek to undermine the will of the people.”

That last line bears repeating long and loudly.

[CatDancer]

“In other words they seek to undermine the will of the people.”

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No, it’s not the will of the people. It’s the will of the democrats, independents and media. Neither is Paul the will of Republicans by a long shot. Unfortunately, none of this matters now, does it? We’ve been so screwed we’ve disappeared into the wood and just an empty-looking hole shows where we were. I’m in Missouri and they don’t have to show me.

[nonliberal]

Only out of political convenience.

Look at all the stuff Bush ( and his Kool Aid drinkers here on FR) got away with simply because of the letter behind his name.

Say what you will about Paul and the Paulestinians, he was the only one consistently advocating smaller government.

[FreeInWV]

Just so you know - Next tuesday I will proudly cast my vote for Ron Paul in the WV primary.

[SecAmndmt]

Thanks for your comments.

This is not an isolated incident, and it is not just Ron Paul Republicans who are crying foul. A good friend of mine (who has been a solid Republican for 25 years and a well respected local leader) attended his county convention in Texas as a Huckabee alternate delegate. He is NOT a Ron Paul supporter. He witnessed the local party hacks break the rules, cut off debate, and refuse to even discuss legitimate traditional conservative platform amendments brought up by RP delegates.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

No prob. As stated, I'n certainly in no way, shape or form a Ron Paul -- and there are any number of his supporters hereabouts, doubtless, who will be more than willing to attest to that fact! ;) -- but: going back, weeks/months after the fact, and retroactively declaring literally hundreds of duly elected party delegates "non-persons," when they've (evidently) violated no applicable or existing rule(s) is rank Boss Tweed-ism at its unconscionable and indefensible.

The MO State Republican Party needs to back away from their current planned course of action.

This is NOT the way to do things.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Should be "a Ron Paul fan" (obviously). ;)

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Cripes. Make that "at its most unconscionable and indefensible."

Bedtime, maybe, I think. ;)

[mnehrling]

Is Missouri a winner take all state? Many states are winner take all, and require delegates to vote for whomever has the majority if that person has over XX%. I can understand the ‘oath’ (as some call it) if these people don’t plan to follow the rules and just create havoc.