Neanderthals Were Seperate Species, Says New Human Family Tree

Physorg ^ | 5-4-2008

[MindBender26]

Ok, this explains the origins of James Carville, but where did Dennis Kucinich come from.

The Mother Ship?

[Natchez Hawk]

Penguin evolution is a fib.

[11th Commandment]

Not true. Neanterthals buried their dead. They also cared for their sick and injured.

Ya, but did they have nationalized health care? Not so smart after all.

[MindBender26]

Race;
Caucasian,
Negroid,
Oriental, etc

Species:

Human,
Neanderthal,
DUer, etc.

[Wolfstar]

If you could find evidence that either they could breed together or couldn't, then you would answer the question of whether they are separate species.

This is incorrect. Closely related species potentially can interbreed successfully. The key word is potentially. Examples of closely related, but different species that can interbreed include (but are not limited to) wolves and dogs, foxes and dogs, horses and donkeys, lions and tigers, sheep and goats, bonobos and chimps.

[poobear]

The Neanderthal model looks a lot like Islamist “rag boy” with a smile. IMHO

[MrB]

So, am I right that no direct ancestor for homo-sapiens has ever been discovered? All that were conjectured as that immediate ancestor have been proven not to be?

[Michael.SF.]

He looks gay to me.

[heartwood]

Dog-fox hybrids are really dubious. Coyote-dog, sure.

I know someone who looks very neanderthal. Brow ridges, saggital crest, prominent nose and jaw, receding chin. Quite intelligent too.

[Wolfstar]

Then what is the difference between a separate race and a separate species?

"Race" is an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species. In common usage, "race" usually is applied to humans, while "breed" usually is applied to animals. So, for example, canis familiaris (dogs) is one species, but it has hundreds of breeds. What makes a breed are relatively minor genetic differences that produce different colorings, coats, size, capabilities, and so on.

Human beings don't think of our distinct, but minor genetic differences in terms of different breeds. Instead, we refer to those differences with our species as races.

[MrB]

What kind of car insurance does he have?

[djf]

LOL!

Good one!

I concur.

[vpintheak]

If your answer doesn’t fit, throw it out.

[Savage Beast]

"Some opinions aver that the Neanderthals were slowly wiped out by the smarter H. sapiens..."

Perhaps, but not completely. Neanderthals are alive and well at the New York Times, the Washington Post, and The Guardian.

[Wolfstar]

Dog-fox hybrids are really dubious.

True, but the Russians claim to have done it during their experiments that produced the tame Silver Fox. That's why I mentioned it above. Most scientists think that if a dog-fox hybrid actually was produced, it would be sterile, like mules.

[toast]

I stated they had to produce “fertile” offspring.
Donkeys and horses produce mules. They are not fertile.
Lions and tigers can produce offspring but they are not fertile.
Dogs are direct descendants of wolves. They are considered separate species but a Husky is a lot closer to a wolf than to a chihuahua.

The article talked of the 2 human species not being descendants.

[heartwood]

The Russians got very dog-like foxees by breeding for docility and tolerance of humans but I never heard they tried breeding them with dogs.

[11th Commandment]

So, am I right that no direct ancestor for homo-sapiens has ever been discovered? All that were conjectured as that immediate ancestor have been proven not to be?

I would be careful and do more research as it relates to Cro Magnon. You might be ridiculed for even using the term Cro Magnon as terminology has changed. Remember, evolution is the global warming consensus science X's 10.

[MrB]

Evolution is the main engine of atheism and secular humanism,

the official state religion as established by the ACLU and is taught in our government school systems.

[Hacklehead]

“I know someone who looks very neanderthal. Brow ridges, saggital crest, prominent nose and jaw, receding chin. “

Liar. We’ve never met.