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Democratic divisions will be hard to bridge (Wounds caused by Clinton Obama scuffle are deep ones)
Financial Times ^ | 05/05/2008 | James "Alien" Carville

Posted on 05/06/2008 1:57:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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1 posted on 05/06/2008 1:57:19 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I think this article completely misses the mark.

The Democrat Party is the “Me Party”. Its about selfishness. It has as many wings as it has voters.

Identity politics define it and therefore split it.


2 posted on 05/06/2008 2:18:17 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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Carville doesn’t know squat about the GOP and conservatives. What he fails to state is the fact that hundreds of thousands of conservatives have left the GOP in the past two or three years, and they aren’t “coming home” to vote for the pathetic Juan McCain. He talks about “economic conservatives” as if they are a large block of the conservative movement—wrong!! He completely leaves out the anti-Invasion conservatives, a relatively new (2005) group of active conservatives, conservatives who are neither “economic” (IE pro-Wall Street open borders types) or fundamentalist Christians (the Pat Robertson types). They aren’t one (abortion) or two (gay marriage) issue conseratives—anti-Invasion conservatives see the entire countryside. They fight Communsim and Socialism from the racist reconquista groups like La Raza and the ACLU. These “anti-Invasion conservatives” (as I call them) are the most active of all conservatives. They risk their lives in demonstrations against the Communists and reconquistas that seek to overthrow the nation and take it over.


3 posted on 05/06/2008 2:32:17 AM PDT by levotb
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The Dems are doing every self-destructive thing they can to give McCain the big win.That means more liberals and liberal-lite “moderates” will be swinging his way as more Obama/Clinton disgust runs them off.
This is why McCain is still campaigning as a liberal RINO and dissing conservatives who will still probably vote for him out of sheer terror of a BHO or HRC presidency.
McCain wants a mandate in November that will totally exorcise conservative power in DC.
The bitter pill is the conservatives will,or should I say have no choice but to help give him that mandate.
McCain has been plotting this evil strategy since his sour grapes of 2000.He wanted conservatives dead and he wanted the delicious pleasure of making them the agents of their own destruction.
The completion of the McCain vendetta will be the diaspora of conservatives from Washington politics—which is odd when one considers the fact that conservatives represent the majority of Americans.


4 posted on 05/06/2008 3:03:53 AM PDT by Happy Rain
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Can onion-head carville spell OPERATION CHAOS?!

LLS

5 posted on 05/06/2008 3:16:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? NOT if jerk-face keeps running his liberal mouth!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Can onion-head carville spell OPERATION CHAOS?!

Hush, or he'll sic Lord Sauron on you. ;)


6 posted on 05/06/2008 3:21:01 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

When I heard this on the radio yesterday, I couldn’t believe that Carville actually said it, so I went looking for verification.

“Of the comparable toughness between Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Barack Obama, D-Ill., Clinton adviser James Carville tells Newsweek: ‘If she gave him one of her cojones, they’d both have two.’”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/carville-says-o.html


7 posted on 05/06/2008 3:25:15 AM PDT by dawn53
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“Of the comparable toughness between Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Barack Obama, D-Ill., Clinton adviser James Carville tells Newsweek: ‘If she gave him one of her cojones, they’d both have two.’”


8 posted on 05/06/2008 3:28:53 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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"Carville doesn’t know squat about the GOP and conservatives. What he fails to state is the fact that hundreds of thousands of conservatives have left the GOP in the past two or three years, and they aren’t “coming home” to vote for the pathetic Juan McCain."

Carville may not know squat about anything but I believe you are dead wrong about those many Conservatives who have left the Party and won't vote for McCain.. While there will surely be some who will do as you say, the greater majority of them will NOT put the Party BEFORE the country and will vote for McCain with the idea they can push him to the right after he gets in the WH. Any votes McCain loses on the right will pretty easily be made up for by those he pulls from the Ind ranks and even the Blue Dog Democrat voters. While McCain was far from my choice he is still light years better then either of the liberal disasters waiting to happen to America.

9 posted on 05/06/2008 3:32:13 AM PDT by lexusppd (I agree and if he is careful with his VP choice he will negate the age argument and enhance both)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It's twue ! It's twue !

10 posted on 05/06/2008 3:33:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I didn’t know james had a brother? :)

LLS


11 posted on 05/06/2008 3:41:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? NOT if jerk-face keeps running his liberal mouth!!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

DEEP is good.. But I am waiting for “Mortal” wounds as the charaterization.


12 posted on 05/06/2008 4:04:55 AM PDT by rod1 (u)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So the bridge to the 21st century is now too far!!

Lazy RATS


13 posted on 05/06/2008 4:06:11 AM PDT by rod1 (u)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The evangelical Christian and social conservatives find themselves in a marriage of convenience (does this violate a marriage’s sanctity?) with economic conservatives, who in turn wonder about the single-minded obsession of the national security-focused conservatives. Consider it as the Pat Robertson Republicans versus the Rockefeller Republicans versus the Reagan Republicans. All represent different wings of the party
This wildly overstates the divisions. First, the social conservatives include not just evangelicals but everyone who takes traditional social rules seriously - Catholics and others. Second, the idea that there is a contradiction between social conservatism and economic freedom died with the success of the US Constitution. And where did the idea that there was a contradiction between either of those two and concern about national security come from?

Reagan was no opponent of social conservatism. The real divide in the Republican Party has been the Rockefeller vs the Kemp - the country club vs the main street - divide.

The Democrats have had their version of an economic divide - the white wine liberals vs the beer liberals. And the party works because the white wine liberals promise to take care of the beer liberals. The country club Republicans want to take care of the beer liberals, too. Whereas the Main Street Repubicans want everyone to recognize that we all - beer liberals included - do a better job of taking care of ourselves than either the country club Republicans or the white wine liberals can possibly can possibly do for them. And that we all do better at that when not under the illusion that the government is going to do it for us.


14 posted on 05/06/2008 4:14:00 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

put a pointy beard on carville along with a workers cap and he also looks just like v.i. lenin.

wish i could do that computer graphics magic.


15 posted on 05/06/2008 5:04:13 AM PDT by ripley
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Gollum Carville, LOL.

That's hilarious!

16 posted on 05/06/2008 5:17:54 AM PDT by JPJones (Cry havoc and let loose the Freepers!)
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To: Happy Rain

If only the Dhimmirats weren’t the result of voting against the GOP...

Could happen...

The dhimmis could be so split up that they can’t field a viable ‘rat candidate in ‘12, and we could do a right flank on McCain, leaving the left with the GOP and the Rockefellers.


17 posted on 05/06/2008 5:29:00 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Carvile didn't write this, first of all.....and Hillary has the UN-EDUCATED vote locked up!! Hillary must be SO proud.

And the Blacks will vote for WHOEVER their LEADERS tell them to! Very sad.

18 posted on 05/06/2008 5:53:17 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Carvile didn't write this, first of all.....

Ummmmmmm... it says "By James Carville" right there on the article itself. Take it to the Complaints Department, please. ;)

19 posted on 05/06/2008 5:56:45 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Not blaming you..:)....people write articles FOR pinheads to put their names on. Carvile couldn’t put three sentences together that made sense.


20 posted on 05/06/2008 6:02:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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