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Black Liberation Theology: Mainstream Myth
The Virginian/Baldilocks ^ | 5/6/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 05/06/2008 7:11:18 PM PDT by moneyrunner

Baldilocks is black, female and conservative. Responding to a column by John Derbyshire at NRO, She writes:

...columnists Stephan and Abigail Thernstrom at did their homework on Black Liberation Theology and the "black church":

Most black churchgoers belong to congregations that are overwhelmingly African-American and are affiliated with one of the historically black religious denominations such as the African Methodist Episcopal Church (AME) or the National Baptist Convention. Rev. Wright's Trinity Church, on the other hand, is a predominantly black branch of a white denomination that is not part of "the African-American religious tradition." The United Church of Christ (known until 1957 as the Congregational Church) has a little over a million members; a mere 4 percent of them are black. Fewer than 50,000 blacks in the entire nation worship at a UCC church. In contrast, 98 percent of the National Baptist Convention's 4 million members are African Americans. Add in black Methodists and Pentecostals, as well as other black Baptists, and the total comes to more than 14 million members of an organized, predominantly African-American church.

(Excerpt) Read more at luoamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho; blackchurch; obama; religion; wright

1 posted on 05/06/2008 7:11:19 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
This United C of C is independent of the former Congregationalists isn't it?

If it's not, then Wright is in league with a group that's part of COCU and which swaps ministers and communion with the Disciples of Christ (Christian) who once ordained the Reverend Jim Jones who took his congregation to Guyana to drink coolaid.

Again, I believe Wright's deal is independent and he doesn't share the money with anyone ~ particularly not those insufferable old Puritans!

2 posted on 05/06/2008 7:15:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: moneyrunner

UCC tend to be very liberal black and white Protestants, but black liberation theology is NOT promoted by the vast majority of them, no matter what nutty Rev. Wright says.


3 posted on 05/06/2008 7:19:39 PM PDT by Baladas (M)
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To: moneyrunner
Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

4 posted on 05/06/2008 7:20:35 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: muawiyah
The UCC was formed by a merger of the Congregational Christian Church and the Evangelical & Reformed Church (E&R) in 1957. Each individual congregation is autonomous.
The hierarchy of the UCC is very Liberal.
5 posted on 05/06/2008 7:28:39 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: golfisnr1

The UCC isn’t even Christian.


6 posted on 05/06/2008 7:33:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
If it's not, then Wright is in league with a group that's part of COCU and which swaps ministers and communion with the Disciples of Christ (Christian) who once ordained the Reverend Jim Jones who took his congregation to Guyana to drink coolaid.

Jim Jones, just like Rev Jeremiah Wright was nothing more than a revolutionary Marxist who used religion to advance the cause of communism. Plain and simple.

"One of his [Rev Jim Jones] sources of inspiration was the controversial International Peace Mission movement leader Father Divine.[33] Jones had borrowed the term 'revolutionary suicide'[30] from Black Panther leader Huey Newton who had argued 'the slow suicide of life in the ghetto' ought to be replaced by revolutionary struggle that would end only in victory (socialism and self determination) or revolutionary suicide (death)."

Founding of the [Peoples] Temple:
In 1951, Jones began attending communist meetings and rallies in Indianapolis.[4] Jones became flustered at harassment he received during the McCarthy Hearings,[4] particularly, regarding meetings between Jones and his mother with Paul Robeson.[5] This, among other things, provoked a seminal moment for Jones where he asked himself "how can I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."[5][4]

(snip)

Jonestown's Formation And Operation

Jim Jones as portrayed in a brochure of the Peoples TempleMain article: Jonestown In the summer of 1977, Jones and most of the 900 members of the People's Temple moved to Guyana from San Francisco after media pressure built.[20] Jones left one night after an editor at New West magazine read Jones an article to be published by Marshall Kilduff detailing allegations by former Temple members.[20][15] Jones named the settlement Jonestown after himself.

Jones purported to establish Jonestown as a benevolent model communist community stating, "I believe we’re the purest communists there are." [21] Jones' wife, Marceline, described Jonestown as "dedicated to live for socialism, total economic and racial and social equality. We are here living communally."[21] Jones wanted to construct a model community to show others and stated that Prime Minister of Guyana Forbes Burnham "couldn’t rave enough about us, uh, the wonderful things we do, the project, the model of socialism."[22] In that regard, like the restrictive emigration policies of the then Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and other communist republics, Jones did not permit members to leave Jonestown.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

7 posted on 05/06/2008 7:38:08 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Eye On The Left

Oh, Jimbo Jones - we used to be neighbors....another shining example of the Religious Left.


8 posted on 05/06/2008 7:40:56 PM PDT by Baladas (M)
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To: Eye On The Left
All of which means that Obamasama has ties to Jim Jones and the Guyana disaster.

His only response is going to be "but that was 30 years ago, eh what"

9 posted on 05/06/2008 7:46:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Baladas
Oh, Jimbo Jones - we used to be neighbors....another shining example of the Religious Left.

Communists are only "religious" in the sense that they worship an old man with a long beard. Beyond that, there is no place for God in their world.


10 posted on 05/06/2008 7:50:20 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: muawiyah
The UCC isn’t even Christian.

You have your narrow minded head stuck where the sun doesn't shine.

11 posted on 05/06/2008 9:15:08 PM PDT by billva
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To: billva
And you don't even know which UCC I'm referring to do you?

There's more than one.

12 posted on 05/07/2008 6:01:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
And you don't even know which UCC I'm referring to do you?

There's more than one.

If you weren't talking about the UCC that Wright's Church was affiliated with then what would be the point of your comment?

I still feel the same way about your post.

13 posted on 05/07/2008 8:59:11 PM PDT by billva
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To: billva
Wright's UCC is "independent". It's also quite clearly post-Christian.

Much more like Jim Jones' operation than anything else.

14 posted on 05/08/2008 5:50:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Wright's UCC is "independent". It's also quite clearly post-Christian.

Much more like Jim Jones' operation than anything else.

If you want to call Wright's church in Chicago that I'm not going to argue with you.

However if you are classifying all UCC Churches that way you have your head stuck even further where the sun doesn't shine that I said in my first post.

15 posted on 05/08/2008 8:47:00 AM PDT by billva
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To: billva
You came into the conversation a little late. All that had been said IN MY FIRST POST on the topic.

From some points of view within the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) the UCC fellows within COCU are not sufficiently Christian for joint services and recognition of baptisms. For others, they're OK.

It's not like I have no idea what UCC is.

On the other hand, Rev Wright's church is not part of UCC ~ it is, instead, it's own denomination ~ Trinity UCC.

16 posted on 05/08/2008 10:07:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
On the other hand, Rev Wright's church is not part of UCC ~ it is, instead, it's own denomination ~ Trinity UCC.

That is not the way I understand it, and I don't think the UCC headquarters understands it that way either.

If you go there you can find references to him.

17 posted on 05/08/2008 6:00:08 PM PDT by billva
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