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It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
The New Republic ^ | May 07, 2008 | John B. Judis

Posted on 05/07/2008 8:01:48 AM PDT by Aristotelian

But Barack Obama's support has narrowed dangerously--and he'll need to make critical changes to beat John McCain.

The Democratic primary is over. Hillary Clinton might still run in West Virginia and Kentucky, which she'll win handily, but by failing to win Indiana decisively and by losing North Carolina decisively, she lost the argument for her own candidacy. She can't surpass Barack Obama's delegate or popular vote count. The question is no longer who will be the Democratic nominee, but whether Obama can defeat Republican John McCain in November. And the answer to that is still unclear.

During the last two months, Obama has faltered as a candidate. He has seen his political base narrow rather than widen, and some of his strengths turn into weaknesses. Of course, he has had to deal with the scandal surrounding Reverend Jeremiah Wright, but even so, he needs to remedy certain flaws in his political approach if he wants to defeat McCain in the fall. Here is a brief list:

The Base: As the primaries have proceeded, he has become more dependent on strong, almost unanimous, support from African American and young voters.

(Excerpt) Read more at tnr.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; hillary; obama
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For Hillary, it's

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1 posted on 05/07/2008 8:01:48 AM PDT by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian

Her net delegate loss was 11, which she will likely make up in Puerto Rico.


2 posted on 05/07/2008 8:06:57 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Aristotelian
Gotta go post the full lyrics--as a tribute to Bob

Its All Over Now, Baby Blue
3 posted on 05/07/2008 8:07:39 AM PDT by scott says
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To: Aristotelian

I can’t even begin to imagine why Hillary thought she would do well in NC???? The Clintons were not very kind to us back in the day! Besides, so far we are a Republican state in the national elections.

I was hoping Hillary would be in it a little longer so we could keep beating up on Obama, but oh well. One down, one to go! I can’t imagine an Obama presidency, but then other dems I talk to feel exactly the same way.


4 posted on 05/07/2008 8:11:45 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: Aristotelian
So in other words, according to this article, Obama must now start to lie about who he is. You know, the person who has been exposed for all to see during the primaries.
Tell us all that he is really not a Marxist, really not weak on national defense, really would not surrender in Iraq, really not raise taxes to a level that would leave this country in ruins. The sad thing is, many will not even care. They will only perceive a weak economy, hate paying a ton of money at the gas pump and simply vote for the party that is opposite of the one currently holding the White House.
5 posted on 05/07/2008 8:12:07 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Aristotelian
Question for Freepers with an intelligent opinion.

I have assumed all this time that while Obama is carrying 90%+ of the black vote, it won't much matter come November. The thinking is that blacks go overwhelmingly Dem anyway.

Have there been any studies on this matter to determine whether he may actually carry blacks to an even larger degree than the Dem ticket usually does? That is, either a higher percentage of blacks going Dem (which can't be much higher), or a total number of blacks participating and thereby increasing their significance.

I hope my initial assumptions were correct. If so then I think he is TOAST. If not, then who knows whether 60% of whites going GOP will be enough.

On the other hand, it may be that whites are more likely to participate with a black liberation candidate on the ticket. Any thoughts?

6 posted on 05/07/2008 8:14:55 AM PDT by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: Aristotelian
Sen. Osama has got to wonder if he will be on the Clinton Body Count.

If Sen. Osama suddenly disappears, does Mrs. Clinton become our next President by default???

7 posted on 05/07/2008 8:15:22 AM PDT by kcm.org (Now unto Him)
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To: Aristotelian

So, how is Obama-Jama going to convince us that he for a strong defense and WOT; is against abortion of any type; believes in tax cuts and wants to make them permanent; and is willing to admit that government should get smaller - not bigger.

I’d like to see him try that one on for size.


8 posted on 05/07/2008 8:15:26 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: FlipWilson
The Dems are crazy if they believe Hillary's dropping out solves their Clinton problems. When she drops out it will only be the beginning. She doesn't get mad, she gets even and it will be “Hell to Pay” for those who deserted her.
9 posted on 05/07/2008 8:16:18 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Aristotelian
She hasn't invoked the Ft Marcy Park option yet..

..I bet she is thinking haaarrrrd about it even as we speak.

10 posted on 05/07/2008 8:17:52 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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To: B.O. Plenty

There is still plenty of time for her to discredit him to the point that enough delegates will jump ship and give here the nomination.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 8:20:31 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Aristotelian

Well, I’ll say one thing, it looks as if Rush has been proved right. Obama got muddied and spent a lot more money than he would have without Operation Chaos, yet in the end the weaker candidate won.

Although I still wouldn’t count hillary out until the fat lady sings.


12 posted on 05/07/2008 8:20:55 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Clump

I think the Wright issue has opened the eyes of a lot of whites to the fact that all the programs, reparations, and appeasement have been for naught.

They still hold their grievances, they still hate whitey, including lib whitey, and they’re still angry at you because of your skin color that gives you “privilege”.


13 posted on 05/07/2008 8:24:23 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Clump
>Have there been any studies on this matter to determine whether he may actually carry blacks to an even larger degree than the Dem ticket usually does?

In philly - as in any other crime infested, slum ridden democrat hellhole - there are wards and precincts reporting 108% of the vote all democrat.

Happened for Kerry, and with no apologies at all.
As far as a higher total? - Can't see it.

14 posted on 05/07/2008 8:25:04 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Aristotelian

When will these people just go away?

For crying out loud, just do the Tom Daschle thing, AND GO AWAY.

I’m sick and tired of thoee two. Yeah, and Hillary and Bill too.

Just go away! Already. For crying out loud.


15 posted on 05/07/2008 8:25:04 AM PDT by raygun (24.14% of the Voting Age Population elected Slick (The Cigar) Willey to a second term.)
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To: Aristotelian

not at all.

Obama won because of the racial makeup of the Demcrat Party in NC.

Hillary won because of the racial makeup of the Democrat Party in IND.

Seems to me that Tuesday was a clear statement that Obama is beholding to the black liberation theology movement far more than anything else.


16 posted on 05/07/2008 8:26:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Clump

Such an intelligent question deserves a good answer - I’ll try my best.

My understanding is that yes, blacks voted close to 90% Democrat in 2000 and 2004, so there may not be much more of the black vote to go to Obama. But he might increase turnout, which is less predictable. So I would say that Obama has a poteltial reserve of “new” voters, of undetermined size.


17 posted on 05/07/2008 8:31:16 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: FlipWilson

By electing Jimmy Carter The Second.


18 posted on 05/07/2008 8:33:10 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: cvq3842

potelial = potential


19 posted on 05/07/2008 8:37:14 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Cicero
I still wouldn’t count hillary out until the fat lady sings.

She has been taking voice lessons according to her FEC filing.

20 posted on 05/07/2008 8:38:35 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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