We always have a good time!
Posted on 05/08/2008 7:58:35 PM PDT by Redcitizen
Pressured by the gun lobby and 51 US senators, the Interior Department proposes enhancing everyone's national park experience by letting people pack heat with a picnic. That's just what the nation's millions of park visitors don't need.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Because trees are inanimate and pose less harm than animals or people.
“That’s just what the nation’s millions of park visitors don’t need.”
Yeah, better to let the thugs that frequent these parks prey upon the other visitors with impunity. /s
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
It never happens, but they keep predicting it.
Yep.. Like all leftist scares. I even think global warming. They just don’t happen.
Conservative scares like 9/11 and attacks on us? Well...
That’s why I’m a conservative. The madness on the otherside is completely without any logic or historical fact.
Should we break it to this bozo that people “pack heat” in parks now?
Shhh.. I’d never do that :)
The scare of people legally allowed to carry is something that the left can’t get over.
I always pack a pistol when I go backpacking or hiking and have for over twenty years... there are bears and bobcats out there!
The guy(s) who killed them were able to get away with their crime because the ladies left their guns at home.
National Parks are, for the most part, pretty devoid of development, and folks who go to them to have a good time are at the mercy of the criminals who go there to have a bad time.
Time to even the score.
And, Fur Shur, I'd definitely trust an armed law abiding citizen over any criminal anytime.
The editors at Christian Science Monitor should crawl back in their holes and go to sleep. This issue has nothing to do with them. After all, they get shot one of their buddies will lay hands on 'em and they're healed, right?!
I lent relatives a firearm when they toured a National Park. Hee Hee.
ANGGAPO you can camp next to me anytime!
I generally go for a long rifle myself. Ive never needed it but 30 rounds per mag sure helps. I have never seen a bobcat but have heard of mountain lions abounding in the places where I hike.
The local gun range has a cowboy action shooting club. Very nice people. Thats about as close this state gets to cowboy gun fights.
I’m none too sure they believe in healing so thats out the window for them.
Is it not sad that the elitist liberal minds of the world so despise and fear their fellow man that they want to treat us all like children, incapable of behaving in a civil manner without close supervision...by them, of course!
armalite AR 7 - nice
We always have a good time!
I’d rather have a firearm and not need it then need one and not have it at hand.
We all have fun on the range -- I'm the only Indian in the local Cowboy Action group.
Some of the targets are shaped like Indians - I told the Range Officer I'd just assume they were Lakota (my tribe's deadly enemies). Hey - we ain't mad with nobody!
Think of it this way - they’d be right, just not in the way they thought.
Instead of wild gunfights every 5 minutes (which is what they think), it would be quiet, people would be polite to each other, women could walk around unmolested, dangerous animals of all kinds would be quickly dispatched (what most of the West was really like, sans hostile natives).
“California 2-Year-Old Dragged From Yard by Coyote in Third Such Attack in Five Days”
Wonder what would some parent do in a National Park where firearms are not currently allowed?
Or someone hiking along a trail and is jumped by a mountain lion as has happened in California on several occasions ....
You go into their habitat you’d better be prepared.
I spend a lot of time in the wilds, hunting, fishing, camping, etc......... and while most serious crime is in the big cities, my biggest fear in the outdoors is still the 2 legged variety.
Armed for self defense in nation parks.
Pleased to meet ya. I’m Dine’ myself. Im armed cause I cant shoot worth a darn with arrows!
I remember this story because the visitors were from out of the country. Mesa Verde is nearby to where I lived And they had the chutzpah to sue:
14 July. A 4-year-old boy was attacked by a lion at Mesa Verde National Park, Colorado, at about 10:45 a.m. The lion grabbed Raphael Degrave of Bougival, France, by his face and shook and dragged him for several yards. The youngster was hospitalized with cuts to his nose, left ear, and shoulder and required 52 stitches. The lion had previously been seen approaching people, and was killed. The family of Raphael filed suit against the National Park Service three years later, charging that park officials failed to protect them from the “known risk” posed by the mountain lion. Source: (Wildlife Report; from the Colorado Division of Wildlife; 10/22/97) (Deborah Frazier; Rocky Mountain News; 07/16/97) (John C. Ensslin; Rocky Mountain News; 06/28/2000)
http://cougarinfo.org/attacks2.htm
P.S. full disclosure - I'm actually only a little bit Cherokee (not enough for the rolls), and that way back. In Cowboy Action shooting one adopts a persona from the Wild West, either historical or fictional, and being sort of contrarian by nature I chose not a cowgirl but a historical Crow (Apsaroka) lady who joined up as a scout with General Crook because she was annoyed at the Lakota (they had killed her brother). Besides, all the good cowgirl names were taken! (so many names are taken in cowboy action that one fellow I know got frustrated and took the name "Not Yet Taken".)
I like the way you developed your persona. Thats so funny about being inside a barn and not being able to hit it. I presume you do quite well with a double barrel and a revolver.
Ive gone modern with semiauto pistols. Maybe one of these days I’ll get a revolver for fun. =)
Memo to CSM:
You bunch of namby-pamby panty-waists better stay east of the Hudson: the real world can be a tough place, especially for those who can’t take care of themselves.
“I have camped in a number of national Parks in Colorado and Wyoming over the years, and always had a good, loaded, firearm close by.”
Very wise.
“I lent relatives a firearm when they toured a National Park. Hee Hee.”
Good for you...and them. I hope it was a friggin M60. Or an M16 with an attached M203. Give the predatory scum something to think about.
I had never fired a single-action revolver until I shot my first cowboy action match. I had fired a double barrel and a lever action before, but only my dad's old 16 ga. Parker and his .348 Winchester, which are both a far cry from a Stoeger coach gun and a slicked up Win 92 in .357. If I'd tried to fire the .348 that fast, it would have knocked me on my posterior! (you can see an ejected shell in the air over the 92 in the picture)
If you have a local club, you ought to try this game. It is tons of fun. My husband shoots too, he doesn't really go in for the costume angle at all, he's just there to shoot (but I beat him in the last match, buckskin, feathers, and all < gloat gloat gloat > )
licensed gun holders are not the ones that are going to harm others, it is the people that do not care about law that will.
I was a history major in college, with a concentration in military history, so I have had a lot of fun doing the research and getting everything right, down to the beadwork on the war shirt and leggings. The costume is as accurate as I can make it. Next step: finding an Apsaroka dictionary and some good audio tapes!
Odd timing this article...a story in the Richmond Times Dispatch today announced the arrest of a man for shooting two hikers on the Appalachin trail here in Virginia. It was the same individual convicted years ago for two murders on the trail in the same general area. Sentenced to thirty years but released after 14...ACLU will certainly want to know if he had been advised of his loss of his firearm rights. At any rate the four victims here might have wished they had been armed.
Oh, please. The only crime that I think would be even remotely likely to increase in the national parks if this was allowed is poaching... and somehow, I have a feeling that it’s not that hard to get a gun into a national park in the first place, if someone really wants to break those laws. However, in my opinion, a slight increase in illegal hunting activities would be well worth it for how much more people would be able to defend themselves, and the possible lowering of other crime rates as a result.
There, fixed it.
I carry to my friends' parties all the time. They never know.
One time I went outside to have a cigarette with another Second Amendment junkie and told him I was carrying. It turned out he was too!
I agree with you.
Conservative people are very much realists. Liberals deny reality and are the most dangerous idealists because of it.
For example, take human nature. Conservatives admit the ugly truth that humans are by nature, “bad” (self centered, selfish) and need to learn how to get along peaceably with others. We see this by knowing ourselves, and thousands of years of experience. Anyone raising a child knows this.
Yet liberals reject reality, and hold the insane worldview that people by nature are generally good, and the real problems in the world are because people learn how to be bad. That’s why they feel justified blaming ‘society’ for individual’s evil crimes. Yet they completely deny individual choice, the fact that people under the same/similar circumstances do not commit crimes, and ignore the fact that babies, children and even some adults must consistently be taught to get along with others, and to think of others, not just themselves.
Actually, it was.
People knew there were always consequences.
What is your choice of handguns?
I purchased the 460 with the expectation that it would give me a little more capability than the S&W 629 (44 mag) with PMC 240 gr JHP. That is my standard hiking rig. Clearly, I have to more experimentation to do before relying on the 460.
BTW, I had ONE remaining Hornady 300 gr 454 Casull factory round left in my 454 box. I fired it and had no face cutting experience. That tells me that it is important to have the right quality of bullet on the 460 rounds. The one I was using was more suited for use on a 45Auto cartridge.
F*ck ‘em. I pack a .32 acp military issue, nice and lightweight for those who practice hiking light. I’m not going 80 miles in the backcountry, with my kids, without being able to protect myself. We’ve come upon cougar kills, had a cougar right outside our tent at night, either that or a wolf, plus you got more crazies out there than you can shake a stick at. We wear whistles when traveling in brush or berry areas, the kids are taught to blow like hell if they see a cougar to scare it off and talk loud in berry areas to alert bears to our presence. We’re not looking for engagement opportunities and practice low impact trekking. One time I’ve had to fire a shot in the dead of night when one was sniffing my head through the tent fabric. I was glad I didn’t have to rely on my Bowie knife under my pillow. I feel for the poor bastard that tries to get one over on me.
or maybe 5 or 6
Loaded a few experimental 200s for the .45LC with a light cowboy load and had the same blowback problem. Went to the 250s, now no problem.
We're casting our own bullets out of discarded wheelweights that we got for free. At these low velocities, we don't need to augment the wheelweights with any new metal. But our neighbors think we're crazy -- you have to pre-clean the wheelweights and get all the steel clips and tire powder etc. out by melting them in a discarded stainless steel sink over a turkey fryer in the driveway and fluxing them with chunks of beeswax (which makes a huge towering flame every so often) . . . . but our neighbors are quite used to odd stuff going on in the yard, what with dog agility and retriever training and building jumps for my horse . . . .
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