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As Sir Winston Churchill said:

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

1 posted on 05/09/2008 6:23:25 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

What he needs more is an economics lesson.

The guy is clueless, and on every economic issue he drops back to his default Marxist position.


2 posted on 05/09/2008 6:24:29 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: kellynla

This guy’s and idiot, and the DBM even more so. But, he promises to save us from ourselves.


4 posted on 05/09/2008 6:28:32 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: kellynla

Ignorance, not stupidity, can be cured by education....But not the kind of education he got.....Viva our wunerful lib institushuns!


7 posted on 05/09/2008 6:33:05 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: kellynla

“To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace.” George Washington

One more quote Obama would profit from:

“Assosciate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; it is better to be alone than in bad company.”

George Washington


8 posted on 05/09/2008 6:33:51 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: kellynla

“As Sir Winston Churchill said:

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.””

A better man than the individual who originated the quote.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/santayana/

Hard to believe the way the left perceives history. No context, no objectivity, and certainly no truth.


10 posted on 05/09/2008 6:35:12 AM PDT by petro45acp (NO good endeavor survives an excess of "adult supervision" (read bureaucracy)!)
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To: kellynla

I had the same problem with Mitt Romney’s abuse of history. Shameful.


12 posted on 05/09/2008 6:36:39 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: kellynla
... it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies...

Well, I know I'm not his friend and when he talks about bringing us all together I want to vomit!

There's no way a true conservative has ANY common ground with socialist America-haters.

Was that the 'conservative' Newt Gingrich sitting on a love seat with Nancy Peolosick endorsing the battle against gorebal warming?

13 posted on 05/09/2008 6:39:44 AM PDT by fweingart (It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!)
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To: kellynla

From the (personal) history of Obama, how could anyone expect anything else from Obama ?

Tyrants sometimes indicate, in arrogance, exactly what they’re going to do with power - knowing that their cult of admirers will only lap it up.

Obama has more than a little of the arrogance of a budding tyrant.

The greatest tendency of humankind is - to forget. To forget its blessings and its accomplishments.

Sir Winston’s observations remain very well made.


16 posted on 05/09/2008 6:47:43 AM PDT by mtntop3
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To: kellynla
The symbol of an Obama presidency:


17 posted on 05/09/2008 6:48:03 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: kellynla
As Sir Winston Churchill said:

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

This quote is ironic when you realize that in England now, NO MENTION of Winston Churchill will be in the text books! (as of last summer) Were it not for Churchill, they would all have grown up speaking German...

I don't know how much protest there was in England itself, but there was a hue and cry from us on this side of the pond - I was in contact with Churchill's grandson - a member of Parliament - who emailed me with this included; "

It is always a source of immense satisfaction that so many of your fellow countrymen cherish his memory and I can assure you that we, his family, are deeply grateful."

18 posted on 05/09/2008 6:50:50 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: kellynla; All
From "45 Communist Goals":
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

'Goals' 4-45 can be found here or at many other sites through a web search for "45 goals":
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

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Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."

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"Russia has objected strenuously to the antimissile system, calling it a threat to Russian security despite American assurances. President Vladimir V. Putin has threatened to point missiles at Eastern Europe if the system is built. Mr. Gates said that while the United States would not grant Russia a veto over missile defense sites in Europe, the Bush administration was willing to guarantee that neither the radar proposed for the Czech Republic nor the 10 missile interceptors proposed for Poland would be turned on until Iran had proven it had a missile that could reach Europe."
New York Times, Monday, March 17, 2008:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/washington/17gates.html?ref=world

Putin warns Kosovo will 'come back to knock' the West, as NATO envoy lashes out
MOSCOW: President Vladimir Putin on Friday issued a sharp warning to the West about the consequences of recognizing Kosovo's independence, saying the decision would "come back to knock them on the head."

The comments, made during an informal meeting of leaders from ex-Soviet republics, were the strongest by the Russian leader since Sunday when Kosovo made its declaration of independence from Serbia.

They followed statements made earlier Friday by Russia's envoy to NATO, who warned the alliance against overstepping its mandate in Kosovo and said Moscow might be forced to use "brute military force" to maintain respect on the world scene.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/22/europe/EU-GEN-Russia-Kosovo.php

From the Russian News and Information Agency:
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html

From National Public Radio (NPR):
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html

From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order." http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html

Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
Reuters: Aug 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

U.S. Navy Intercepts Russian Bombers Flying Near Ships
Monday, February 11, 2008
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers flying unusually close to an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330362,00.html

"The steps that have been taken (by Russia) and the rhetoric that has been used concerning the threat of force have increased tensions and have undermined Georgia's territorial integrity," NATO spokesman James Appathurai said. "The allies are unanimous in supporting, endorsing Georgia's territorial integrity and will not recognise or support steps that undermine that sovereignty," he said. NATO announced at a summit early this month that Georgia would one day become a member of the 26-nation military alliance, in the face of fierce Russian opposition. Russia objects to NATO moving closer to its borders and is deeply concerned that the breakaway regions could be destabilised by Tbilisi's rapprochement with Moscow's old Cold War-era foe. Georgia claims that Russia has, over the last three months, strengthened its control over Abkhazia and established direct ties with the local authorities. In a tit-for-tat measure, Tbilisi vowed Wednesday to block Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organisation unless it drops plans for direct trade links with the two regions. The Russian peacekeeping announcement is only fuelling problems, said President Mikheil Saakashvili's new "special representative" and top Georgian diplomat, David Bakradze. "It's hard to believe that this is being done for the purposes of peacekeeping, it's rather the beginning of full-scale military aggression," he told AFP by telephone during a trip to Brussels. ......more

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080430/wl_afp/russiageorgiamilitaryconflicttroopsnato_080430200914

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Obama Promises to Dismantle Our Armed Forces
by Robert Maginnis
Posted 04/10/2008 ET


(Mr. Maginnis is a retired Army lieutenant colonel, a national security and foreign affairs analyst for radio and television and a senior strategist with the U.S. Army)

YouTube has an undated 52-second clip of Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barrack Obama outlining his plans for America’s national defense. Obama’s presentation demonstrates either total naivete about important national security programs or he is just pandering for votes among the extreme left.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25942

Note: Although I sent Human Events the ORIGINAL youtube video several weeks ago (original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE ) and asked that they replace the copy they refer to (copy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs ), they still have not yet done so. The original comes directly from the Obama camp itself and so is a lot more credible. In any case, Col Maginnis does an excellent in-depth must read analysis of Obama's proposed defense policies (see: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25942).-Eye On The Left

20 posted on 05/09/2008 6:59:34 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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“it passed without comment by the journalists covering his speech “

Reality, Barry Obama is an old school Chicago politician and mouth piece of the far left Democrat Party. He is the left-winged messiah the socialist have been hoping for - those on the left hoping for change - that is.

The media are so in love with himthey can't question his words.

23 posted on 05/09/2008 7:04:36 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: kellynla

You could hardly expect someone as stupid as this idiot to know something about history.


24 posted on 05/09/2008 7:28:15 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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As Sir Winston Churchill said: "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." "

Actually, that was George Santayana.

30 posted on 05/09/2008 7:58:28 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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George Santayana. But, this is a huge column by Kelly. Dem liberals never seem to remember history because they never apologize for their huge domestic and foreign policy issues such as the Great Society, tax hikes, appeasement, and cut and runners against America’s enemies. I have been teaching history for 47 years and have never found a liberal in a class who even remembers their stands against America on almost every foreign policy endeavor or war that we have been in at least since the days of FDR. Even Truman, JFK and LBJ who tried war, were undermined by their own voters, Party and the media. They have been socialist pacifists for two generations now.


34 posted on 05/09/2008 8:17:48 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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That was Santayana who authored that phrase, tho’ Winnie may have repeated it.


42 posted on 05/09/2008 9:28:12 AM PDT by expatpat
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I’m surprised that everyone has forgotten all those summit conferences where FDR and Hitler posed for photos shaking hands, and where Eleanor and Eva Braun kissed each other on the cheek.

Actually, there was a leader who followed Obama’s advice. His name was Neville Chamberlain, and his “peace in our time” initiatives only encouraged Adolf to be even more aggressive and brutal.


44 posted on 05/09/2008 9:32:54 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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FDR chatted with Stalin at the Yalta Conference in 1945.

If that's his idea of a hero or role model, he really needs to starting studying History more carefully.

48 posted on 05/09/2008 11:51:38 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." "

Actually, it was George Santayana who said that. Churchill did say this, however:

"When the situation was manageable it was neglected, and now that it is thoroughly out of hand we apply too late the remedies which then might have effected a cure. There is nothing new to the story. It is as old as the Sibylline Books. It falls into that long, dismal catalogue of the fruitlessness of experience and the confirmed unteachability of mankind. Want of foresight, unwillingness to act when action would be simple and effective, lack of clear thinking, confusion of counsel until the emergency comes, until self-preservation strikes its jarring gong — these are the features which constitute the endlless repetition of history." - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, March 19, 1935.
Churchill - The Last Lion Roars.

50 posted on 05/09/2008 1:40:47 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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In 1936, Adolf Hitler decided to test the will of the Allies by invading the demilitarized Rhineland between France and Germany in violation of the Treaty of Versailles. Since the relatively weak German army was in no condition to face off against the then much more powerful French army, and since he only sent in a few battalions, he had instructed his commanders to retreat should they meet any resistance.

There was an anti-Hitler movement in Germany at that time led by the former chief of the German general staff, Ludwig Beck. Beck and his fellow co-conspirators were planning on the Allies resisting yielding the Sudetenland to Hitler in 1938 during the Sudeten Crisis. The group of plotters around Colonel General Ludwig Beck consisted of Generals Erich Höpner and Carl-Heinrich von Stülpnagel, General von Witzleben, and Abwehr Chief Wilhelm Canaris. These men planned to overthrow Hitler in a military coup d’état, which seemed feasible at the time of the Sudeten Crisis in 1938. Von Witzleben’s command, through the key Berlin Defence District, was to play a decisive role in the plan. However, Hitler’s success in the Munich Agreement thwarted the conspirators’ plans, and they were not put into operation.

Hitler’s successful coup at Munich and the Allies repeated spinlessnesss only enhanced his popularity almongst the German people and nullified the plot against him. France could have chosen to shed puddles of blood and probably stop a madman in 1936. Instead they took the cowardly way out and required the world to shed oceans of blood to do so.
Ditto with Neville Chamberlin’s pusillanomous vacillation with Hitler and Mussolini.

Flash forward to today. Saddam Hussein violated the armistice that he signed (as Hitler violated Versailles)when he lost the Gulf War in 1991, the part that required him to allow United Nations weapons inspectors unfettered access. We now know that Saddam Hussein intended to continue to try to obtain weapons of mass destruction, another violation of the armistice, and that George Bush’s actions against Saadam may have prevented another conflagration on the scale of a World War III.
We are fortunate that George Bush was made of sterner stuff than the 1930’s appeaswers.

We don’t need this modern day appeaser Obama anywhere NEAR the levers of diplomatic power.


52 posted on 05/09/2008 7:56:47 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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