This is a baseless accusation which was looked into over a decade ago in
an investigation that took $71.5 million and eight years to determine there
was no case.
Posted on 05/12/2008 2:50:32 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Clinton's records vanished after warning
May 12, 2008
By Jerry Seper - Hillary Rodham Clinton's Rose Law Firm billing records, found in the White House residence in January 1996 two years after they had been subpoenaed by government regulators, disappeared shortly after the first lady was warned that the firm's billing problems were "very serious" and the then-ongoing Whitewater investigation could result in criminal charges, newly obtained records show.
More than 1,100 pages of grand jury testimony, investigative reports, memos, charging documents, chronologies, narratives and draft indictments, previously undisclosed but now being "processed" at the Library of Congress, say Mrs. Clinton knew considerably more about the firm's billing problems and their potential ramifications than she publicly acknowledged at the time.
According to the documents, given to the Library of Congress by the estate of Sam Dash, former ethics adviser to Whitewater Independent Counsel Kenneth W. Starr, Mrs. Clinton also knew that her former Rose partner Webster L. Hubbell was both the focus of the firm's billing concerns and a federal conflict-of-interest investigation, in which he was suspected of lying in a sworn statement to regulators about the firm's representation of a failed Arkansas savings and loan.
While Mrs. Clinton told the public at the time that Mr. Hubbell's March 14, 1994, resignation as associate attorney general involved an "internal billing dispute" with his Rose partners that "likely would be resolved," three months earlier she had been advised by another Rose partner, Allen Bird, that the "billing problems were very serious," according to the newly disclosed records.
The records also said Mrs. Clinton was aware that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC) and the Resolution Trust Corp. (RTC) had begun an investigation in December 1993 into a suspected conflict of interest involving a $400,000 payment
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
From the article:
“The Rose firm’s original billings for Madison have never been found, but the new documents show the Whitewater investigators thought that White House Deputy Counsel Vincent W. Foster Jr. had collected copies of them during the 1992 presidential campaign. Notes in red ink and in Mr. Foster’s handwriting are on the copies and appeared to be addressed to Mrs. Clinton.
Mr. Foster, whose July 1993 death at Fort Marcy Park in Virginia has been ruled a suicide, also served at the time as the Clintons’ personal attorney. He had expressed concern over the Clintons’ involvement in Whitewater Development Corp., an Arkansas real estate venture that also involved Madison’s owners, James and Susan McDougal, and he is thought to have been involved in removing records from the Rose firm in 1992 that later turned up at the Clinton campaign headquarters.”
We’ve got a murder suspect running for Pres.
Was Tom Cruise playing Vince Foster in the movie, “The Firm” ??
No. He lived. Gene Hackman's character, OTOH...
Things that make people say, “Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm “
Like the WaPo would write this story if the Hildebeast were the locked in nominee. Interesting that they would actually do their jobs as journalists at this point.
It’s from the Washington Times, not the Post.
They actually appeared two days later, but what's a day here or there, eh?
This is a baseless accusation which was looked into over a decade ago in
an investigation that took $71.5 million and eight years to determine there
was no case.
Yes we do.....
But who cares?
Obama had better care.
As I remember, the records were "found" only a day or so after the statute of limitations expired.
If I recall correctly, Susan McDougall chose prison time over giving testimony, right? What info was she keeping to herself that was so important that she would rather sit in jail than talk?????
Old news. Move on.(org)
More accurately, it constitutes Her Heinous saying, "<bleep> you! I had them all the time. You knew it and I knew it, but you couldn't do a thing about it. I could have made them disappear forever, but I wanted to really it stick it to you, so I brought them out just after the statute of limitations ran out because I want everyone to see you can't touch me and to pay you back for <bleeping> with me. By the way, did I mention <bleep> you? Well, just for good measure, <bleep> you. And your mother."
McDougal’s demise was another convenient death. I read at the time that while he was in prison he was denied his heart medication, which he needed to take on a continuous basis. Read on:
http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/03/08/mcdougal.update/
McDougal died at 12:01 p.m. CT at John Petersmith Hospital, according to the federal Bureau of Prisons.
(snip)
After being convicted on 18 felony counts, McDougal began to cooperate with Starr’s investigation in August 1996 in exchange for a reduced prison sentence. Initially facing 84 years, he was sentenced to a three-year term and would have been released in September 1999.
His death means Clinton and his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, no longer face the prospect of McDougal giving damaging testimony against them. McDougal had testified extensively to the Whitewater grand jury in Little Rock, Ark.
ping
Well, she got the pardon so we’ll never know.
I often wonder what it does to the fabric of our society when powerful people like the Clinton get away with what looks like serious crimes.
Ain’t it amazing how many “baseless accusations” have been lodged against Hill and Bill?
And why should her campaign be short of funds? All she needs to do is put a couple million into cattle futures!
I always wondered why the billing records showed up at all. They could have disappeared forever.
What is really meant by a “billing problem”? Is this billing for work not done, or would it show a conflict of interest was occurring during lawsuits?
Not actually what they found. But when you are dealing with Clinton Inc you don't have to actually have any facts, just a good spin line to tell the Dinosaur media who will mindlessly regurgitate it. It had quite a bit more do with witness tampering and obstruction of justice then "finding nothing".
It’s like re-reading an old book. Sometimes you enjoy it more the second time around when you have time and distance to put it into context.
If Vincent Foster was the Clintons’ personal lawyer then I’m sure they have cancelled checks and legal bills showing what these checks paid for. Otherwise the value of the legal services rendered would be a gift and should be listed as such on their tax returns. Also, doing private work on the public’s dime is verboten.
This is another reason Hillary should keep running, if Hussein can’t smear her, maybe the media will finally tell us the truth.
I’ve had a theory for a long time that EVERYONE in public life has enough skeletons in their closet to hang them - it’s just that they get drug out at very conveeenient times depending on the power equation at any given time.
Look at how Spiro Agnew magically developed tax issues right before Nixon went down.
Or consider how William Sessions - the FBI Director that clinton wanted out of the way had someone all of a sudden build a fence for him.
My guess is that the powers that be are shooting this across hitlery’s bow. It will be drip drip drip until she “does the honorable thing” and “suspends her campaign”.
Nobody is immune to this sort of thing - if the politics make sense.
BTTT
Bump
You can find out a lot by looking at Reagan's cabinet casualties: James Watt, Anne Gorsuch Burford, Richard Allen, etc., and then comparing these with those of the Clinton years, with particular attention to the severity of the scandalous occurrences and the attention given each in the media, along with the "scandal kill rate" of Republicans vs. Democrats.
It oughta be worth college credit.
Open letter to Jerry Seper:
You ought to know better than that, since you and your newspaper did quite a bit of coverage of the Foster case in past years.
You coyly write that the Foster "death ... has been ruled a suicide." However, if you made the effort to comb through the evidence in the case, assuming you do so objectively, you would see that the official government conclusions are based on deception and fraud. There is no credible piece of evidence in the case that points to "suicide." The circumstantial, physical, and forensic evidence all compel a determination of homicide!
Of course, the new evidence you reveal in this article supports a plausible motive for homicide, one of several plausible motives for homicide that could be advanced - and have been advanced in the past.
You also use the phrase "death at Fort Marcy Park." Any reasoned interpretation of the evidence indicates that the death occurred elsewhere and the body was subsequently transported to a remote area of the park to fake a "suicide." In fact, the death (by gunshot) actually occurred in a DC non-government office a few blocks from the White House.
Or, at the very least, a very hot suspect in the post-murder cover-up. Just trace HRC's activities in the week following Foster's murder and you will see this clearly.
Remember that Vince Foster had been HRC's law partner for many years and her reputed paramour during part of that time. In many if not most murder cases, the perp(s) are or were close to the victim.
Well, maybe not that much, since her cattle future investment paid off at a ratio of 100 to 1!
Unless all these records are in a company vault in Switzerland or Liechtenstein.
Yeah - I think its safe to say that everyone has skeletons rattling around in their respective closets - what makes or breaks you is what sees the light of day. In many cases you have a sort of MAD - Mutual Assured Destruction - I’ll keep quiet about your stuff if you don’t mention mine. Every now and then the clintons talk about “Scorched Earth” (Impeachment for example) which is the exact opposite of the gentlemen’s agreement.
Ping!
Please see my posts #s 34-36.
However, the Clinton skeletons are so much larger and more numerous than anything yet seen in American history!
One can only hope and pray that the truth about the Vince Foster murder and the rest of the Clintoon corruption can be exposed and published in our lifetime. The American public deserves no less. We can also hope and pray that the truth about the Obamas is also exposed before they are given the opportunity to destroy this nation, destroy our freedoms, and destroy the future of our children and grandchildren. At this very moment, American patriots are turning in their graves at this national disgrace.
Yes, probably almost all politicians have issues of one sort or another. But relatively few of them, outside of Chicago, have murder lists that mount up to more than a hundred people, plus several known rapes.
If my eyeglasses skewed reality as bad as liberals and the MSM, I'd just ditch them and squint. I'd be better off.
Saw your posts and thanks for the ping.
I pray often that the truth will be known someday about Vince Foster and about Hillary Clinton.
I am grateful that you don’t let us forget that a homicide WAS committed, and that those in absolute power covered it up.
Someday,everyone will understand what many of us here on FR have known all along—the Clintons are hard core criminals who deserve to be serving hard time in Ft. Leavenworth for their many crimes against this country we love.
And get this: Clinton said publicly that Hubbell's March 1994, resignation as associate AG involved an "internal billing dispute" with his Rose partners that "likely would be resolved," three months earlier.......but she had been advised by another Rose partner that the "billing problems were very serious," according to the newly disclosed records........records also show Clinton was aware that the FDIC and the Resolution Trust Corp. (RTC) had begun a 1993 investigation into a suspected conflict of interest involving a $400,000 payment.........
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And when will the corruption involving Franklin Raines, BillyBoy's appointee to Fannie Mae, make the list?
RAINES' FAREWELL: $26M+
By PAUL THARP NY POST
http://www.nypost.com/business/37312.htm
December 28, 2004
Although Fannie Mae chief Franklin Raines was fired for bungling its books, he'll get a $26 million parachute — not counting a monthly pension of $116,300 for life.
The 55-year-old Washington, DC insider, and his CFO J. Timothy Howard, left their jobs last week under a cloud of suspicion that the execs undermined the financial soundness of Fannie Mae, creating losses of up to $9 billion. Regulators overseeing Fannie Mae urged it not to pay any benefits to either executive until reviews are made of their contracts, filings said yesterday.
Fannie Mae's filings state Raines owns options giving him $5.8 million in net profit after redeeming them, plus another $8.7 million in deferred compensation for his six years at the helm. Raines has already collected $4.87 million in special performance shares this year and also keeps $5 million of paid-up life insurance. He and his spouse get free medical and dental benefits for life, worth over $1 million.
Last year, Raines earned $20 million in salary, bonuses and stock awards. The Securities and Exchange Commission said he broke accounting rules by playing with risky derivatives.
After he was fired, Raines told the board that he's entitled to get paychecks until next June 22 giving him another $600,000, which triggers a $2,000 monthly raise in his lifetime pension. He also says he's entitled to disputed options with a gross value of about $5.6 million.
To keep Raines happy within philanthropic circles, Fannie Mae will match his charitable contributions by $10,000 a year.
Raines' CFO Howard gets a parachute valued at more than $13.1 million — not including a monthly pension of $36,071 for life. Howard gets free medical and dental coverage for himself and family for life, and as well as the matching $10,000 annual perk in making charitable contributions.
Well sure. Yes. It goes without saying that for example, what Nixon did was no different than what others had done before him, in fact in many cases it wasn’t nearly so bad. Wiretapping, using the IRS for political means, bags of cash. It had all been done before by RATs. Of course.
ML/NJ
Don’t hold your breath.
Jerry Seper seems to be dropping the immigration beat for the Hillary beat. “The timing is suspicious” although I found some old reporting of his on the Clintons. Hillary should know that you don’t ever let them catch you limpin.
Charles Ruff was one of Clinton's attorneys during the impeachment trial and was known to have inside information on the White House emails scandal as well. Original reports were that he died in an accident in his home although no details were given. Then the report changed to claim that he was found in his bedroom unconscious, then declared dead on arrival at the hospital. The authorities will provide no details other than the usual (and quite premature) assurances that there was no foul play involved
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