Police arrest two suspects in Monday murder

MSNBC ^ | May 12, 2008 | KSNW-TV

[Xenophon450]

WICHITA, Kansas, May 12, 2008 – Multiple sources confirm Jim Collins was shot and then run over Monday morning in the middle of a downtown Wichita street.

Police believe around 8 a.m. Monday morning, Jim Collins was alone at this car dealership, Marquee Motors, when after some sort of initial confrontation, he was kidnapped and forced into a client’s black Hummer.

[Xenophon450]

Happened this morning, found out from a co-worker today. I sure wish one of those witnesses was carrying, unfortunately that was not the case...

[Xenophon450]

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[allmost]

They scoped him out for a little while before this. Maybe more people will acquire the means to defend themselves after this atrocity.

[Xenophon450]

They did? I was not aware. Could it have been a drug deal gone bad?

[allmost]

It looks premeditated to me. If you think he was a random pick that morning I can’t argue with that either though.

[hatfieldmccoy]

I lived in that town for ten years, I left in 88... it was stupidly violent then, a little Detroit on the plains. Pretty clear things are business as usual....

[ApplegateRanch]

several civilian witnesses and citizen witnesses who stepped forward on this case and assisted us tremendously,” Stolz said.

Is "civilian" now a new code word for illegal aliens? If not, then what is the difference between 'civilian witnesses' and 'citizen witnesses'?

[lmr]

I've lived in Wichita most of my life. I was born there.

Wichita is the site of the infamous Carr Brothers murders and sometimes out-of-control gang violence which has killed dozens in the last 20 years.

Can't forget BTK either.

The violence had SHARPLY decreased the last 5 years or so and it looked like the police may have gotten a handle on it.

I moved to the suburbs 3 years ago because of the influx of (non-English speaking) latinos in my neighborhood.

Wichita has one of the best economies in the country, Aerospace is booming here right now. Quite a few high-paying jobs, but quite a few TERRIBLE Neighborhoods. I grew up in probably one of the worst.

[whatisthetruth]

Sounds like those Kansas farm boys have too much time on their hands.

[lmr]

These guys weren't farm boys. They were inner-city thugs.

I've seen and know these types here. I am afraid to look at them when I pull up at a conveinence store and they pull in beside me.

I figure with the Conceal-Carry law, a few more permits will be issued here real soon in Kansas. The people here are watching.

[Clemenza]

Kansas is one of the seven states that I have never visited. All I know about Wichita is that it is the home of Cessna/Bombardier and even facilities for the Big Two (Airbus and Boeing). I’ve been told that it is largely a blue collar city with bad weather. Never heard anything about crime there except for the Wichita massacre.

[whatisthetruth]

When I think of Kansas, I think of farms and more farms and Dorothy and Toto, it’s hard to fathom Wichita comes anywhere close to someplace like a Detroit, wonder how that happened to a city in Kansas, but I’ll take your word for it and avoid ever visiting that place.

[beaversmom]

I've never been to Wichita, but I would like to go someday to visit The Museum of World Treasures.