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The Myth of Voter Fraud
New York Times ^ | 13 May | Editorial

Posted on 05/14/2008 7:04:34 AM PDT by flowerplough

Missouri and at least 19 other states are considering passing laws that would force people to prove their citizenship before they can vote. These bills are not a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting; that is a made-up problem. The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters. Republicans seem to think that laws of this kind will help them win elections, but burdensome rules like these — and others cropping up around the country — pose a serious threat to democracy and should be stopped.

The Missouri legislature is, as Ian Urbina reported in The Times on Monday, on the verge of passing an amendment to the State Constitution that would require proof of citizenship from anyone registering to vote. In addition to the Missouri amendment, which would require voter approval, Florida, Kansas, South Carolina and other states are considering similar rules.

There is no evidence that voting by noncitizens is a significant problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; elections; immigrantlist; immigration; votefraud
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There is no evidence that voting by noncitizens is a significant problem, they say, just as many, many say there is no evidence that man's carbon dioxide emissions contribute to climate changes. But the New York Times wants evidence before action in only the first case.
1 posted on 05/14/2008 7:04:34 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough

“There is no evidence that voting by noncitizens is a significant problem”
So,,, citizens, vote early, and vote often!


2 posted on 05/14/2008 7:07:00 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: flowerplough

I AM LESS WORRIED ABOUT NON CITIZENS VOTING AS I AM ABOUT THOSE PESKY DEAD PEOPLE WHO VOTE IN DROVES.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 7:07:28 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: flowerplough
Fortunately, the NYT does not widely circulate at the statehouse in Jeff City.
4 posted on 05/14/2008 7:08:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: flowerplough
No barf alert?

This article poses a vacuous truth. Of course there is no evidence that voting by non-citizens is a problem because most places don't check for citizenship.

5 posted on 05/14/2008 7:08:39 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: flowerplough
burdensome rules like these

Oh please.

6 posted on 05/14/2008 7:08:55 AM PDT by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: flowerplough

The old gray bag lady is wrong ... in Missouri - notably St Louis, we’ve sent multiple rats to prison for voter fraud from the 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006 elections — the cases were indeed involving fictional, redundant, illegal and dead voters.

Other cities and states are cesspools of fraud - look at those voting above the percentage of registered voters, and every single one of them involve rat politicians, lawyers and activists seeking to stuff the ballot boxes.


7 posted on 05/14/2008 7:10:10 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: flowerplough

“The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters.”

There also is no evidence of reduced turnout. Yet the author says that is the goal.


8 posted on 05/14/2008 7:11:16 AM PDT by pas
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To: flowerplough

And the geniuses at the NYT wonder why their readership & advertising revenue is falling like a rock...


9 posted on 05/14/2008 7:11:57 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters.

Hogwash!.............

10 posted on 05/14/2008 7:12:03 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: flowerplough

I thought it was more to discourage the hypothetical situation where 500 mythical people who reside at, say, the same gas station, are trying to vote by absentee ballot and their signatures are all remarkably similar.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 7:12:32 AM PDT by stayathomemom
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To: flowerplough

The Slimes once again shows it is irrelevant.


12 posted on 05/14/2008 7:12:32 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: flowerplough
There is no evidence that voting by noncitizens is a significant problem

None whatsoever....as long as you militantly avoid recognizing it.

13 posted on 05/14/2008 7:13:24 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: flowerplough

The myth is that having an ID to vote is burdensome.

In today’s society virtually every citizen has access to an ID. You can get one in Texas, for example, from the Driver’s License department, even if you don’t drive.

And IDs are ubiquitous. You have to have an ID-or a visitor’s pass—to get into the Times building.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 7:14:48 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: flowerplough

Will we see an article about the myth of voter intimidation?


15 posted on 05/14/2008 7:15:34 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: pnh102

I’m not new here, but I am slow. Ain’t quite caught on to alerting potential barfers yet. Sorry.


16 posted on 05/14/2008 7:17:33 AM PDT by flowerplough (I suck at Photoshop)
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These bills are not a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting;

What would be a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting, New York Times? Please put forth your own ideas to prevent noncitizens from voting.

17 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:02 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: flowerplough
The Myth of New York Times' Honesty
18 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:19 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Maceman

I need an ID to:

Buy alcohol,
Rent videos,
Buy tobacco products,
Borrow a book from the library,
Apply for a job,
etc,
etc,
etc.

I know that voting is way beyond the top of the list.


19 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:59 AM PDT by burroak
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To: flowerplough

The truth is that liberals are afraid that blacks would stay away from the polls because they would be afraid that their ID’s would be run for outstanding warrants.


20 posted on 05/14/2008 7:19:26 AM PDT by Eurale
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