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California Supreme Court overturns gay marriage ban (4-3)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/15/08 | AP

Posted on 05/15/2008 10:18:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO - The California Supreme Court has overturned a gay marriage ban in a ruling that would make the nation's largest state the second one to allow gay and lesbian weddings.

The justices' 4-3 decision Thursday says domestic partnerships are not a good enough substitute for marriage. Chief Justice Ron George wrote the opinion.

The city of San Francisco, two dozen gay and lesbian couples and gay rights groups sued in March 2004 after the court halted San Francisco's monthlong same-sex wedding march.

The case before the court involved a series of lawsuits seeking to overturn a voter-approved law that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

With the ruling, California could become the second state after Massachusetts where gay and lesbian residents can marry.

"What happens in California, either way, will have a huge impact around the nation. It will set the tone," said Geoffrey Kors, executive director of the gay rights group Equality California.

California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic partners the same legal rights and responsibilities as married spouses, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support. It's therefore unclear what additional relief state lawmakers could offer short of marriage if the court renders the existing ban unconstitutional.

A coalition of religious and social conservative groups is attempting to put a measure on the November ballot that would enshrine California's current laws banning gay marriage in the state constitution.

The Secretary of State is expected to rule by the end of June whether the sponsors gathered enough signature to qualify the marriage amendment, similar to ones enacted in 26 other states.

The cases before the California court were brought by the city of San Francisco, two dozen gay and lesbian couples, Equality California and another gay rights group in March 2004 after the court halted San Francisco's monthlong same-sex wedding march that took place at Mayor Gavin Newsom's direction.


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1 posted on 05/15/2008 10:18:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Gross.


2 posted on 05/15/2008 10:19:53 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: NormsRevenge

...and the country continues its downward spiral toward oblivion.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 10:20:55 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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Supreme Court of California

May 15 2008 S147999 In re Marriage Cases 5/15/08 SC
[PDF]http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S147999.PDF
[DOC]
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S147999.DOC

Caligula would be proud of this decision. What next, animals?


4 posted on 05/15/2008 10:21:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Please, please let the ‘Rats campaign for this over the summer...


5 posted on 05/15/2008 10:21:59 AM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: NormsRevenge

There is a constitutional amendment in the works for voters to vote on in November, which could overturn this ruling. But California may be too socially liberal to overturn this court order. Stay tuned.


6 posted on 05/15/2008 10:22:40 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: NormsRevenge

Unfortunately I”m unable to listen to Rush, has he mentioned this? And more importantly has he commented on this?


7 posted on 05/15/2008 10:22:47 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The militant homosexualists and their communist allies have now forced us to go to the labor and expense of amending the California constitution to make it absolutely clear that marriage will not be redefined out of existence in this state.

So be it. The amendment will pass in a landslide.


8 posted on 05/15/2008 10:23:00 AM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Here come the polygamists over the border to win their “rights” via the courts too...just wait a couple weeks.


9 posted on 05/15/2008 10:23:14 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Obama hates you.)
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.. domestic partnerships are not a good enough substitute for marriage. Chief Justice Ron George wrote the opinion.

so long George, you used to seem OK,, maybe your brain is being addled away by global warming perhaps,, God help us if you and the court ever has to rule if it is real and man causes it.


10 posted on 05/15/2008 10:23:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: stevio

Not yet.


11 posted on 05/15/2008 10:23:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

California is beyond hope; let the Mexicans have it


12 posted on 05/15/2008 10:24:19 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Bill Clinton: HILLARY!'s other big ass)
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To: NormsRevenge

In the years past this would be a big event. National Coverage, huge battle, Major Protests......now it even bare got covered in evening news.

Disastrous turn of events.

Maybe the Religious Base would get motivated now.

Doesn’t look like it.

We are doomed.


13 posted on 05/15/2008 10:25:26 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: NormsRevenge

As a long time California resident, I knew this disgusting day was coming. California was once a model state, the model in every respect for the other states of this country — fiscally, in education, and its politics. It was clean state, free from mega-perverison, copious numbers of illegal immigrants, and we had politicians that gave a damn about something other than their personal empowerment obtained through pandering and runaway spending.

Actually, I am surprised the vote was so close, given the runaway PC crap and liberalism that has turned California into a socialist dung heap. All this done too, without the regard for the legal nightmare that this move is going to make — as usual, ONLY LAWYERS WILL PROFIT from this. Meanwhile you will have to explain to your young children, how Mr. Jones and Mr. Smith can be man and “wife” —

Actually, I am headed for San Francisco now, to marry my dog.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 10:26:02 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: NRA1995
California is beyond hope; let the Mexicans have it

Too late! (s)

15 posted on 05/15/2008 10:26:06 AM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

No, little boys and girls in public schools, that’s who’s next.

And polygamy,.. and anything else until the word marriage has no meaning at all.


16 posted on 05/15/2008 10:26:19 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ll bet he and Hannity don’t say much about it. There’s more important things out there, like the election. Or so I’ve been told by Hannity’s call screener when I get through and try to talk about this issue.


17 posted on 05/15/2008 10:27:07 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: The_Republican

“Marriage” is a spiritual and physical union between two persons with the possibility of creating a new lives.

Gays may have a spiritual union, but they cannot unite to create new life.

Ergo, their union is different from “marriage”, though it may include some elements of “marriage”.

But it needs a title/name of its own to differentiate it from creative unions.


18 posted on 05/15/2008 10:27:42 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: beethovenfan

God instituted marriage way back at the “beginning”. And, satan’s been trying to destroy it ever sense. But, we all know (or should) who wins in the end.


19 posted on 05/15/2008 10:28:00 AM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: NRA1995

You joke about that but California is a huge source of our nations food supply.


20 posted on 05/15/2008 10:28:13 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: absalom01

Has McCain commented on this yet?


21 posted on 05/15/2008 10:29:46 AM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Won’t be an issue if Obama or Hillary get the Presidency. Gay marriage will become Federal law then...


22 posted on 05/15/2008 10:29:56 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: NormsRevenge
The good thing about arnoldfornia is that it is one of the few places that can make news that makes me feel glad I live in New York.
23 posted on 05/15/2008 10:30:36 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is probably the worst thing that could have happened for the liberals in this election. While it may not have the same deep impact as it did in 2004, there’s no way this helps Obama or the Dems in this election and it provides fuel for such constitutional amendments in both California and Arizona and Florida that will be before the voters this year. Any conservative fuel on the fire will make the Dems worry.

As for that fruitcake judge Ronald George, you’ve been living in Frisco, too long, Mr. Judicial Activist. You’re such a fruit.


24 posted on 05/15/2008 10:30:52 AM PDT by No Dems 2004 (No Dems in 2008 either)
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Supreme Court of California


25 posted on 05/15/2008 10:30:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Totally expected but still utterly appalling. It will prove disastrous for America and the west.
26 posted on 05/15/2008 10:32:16 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think this verdict will fire up the base and that the gay marriage ban will pass. Whether it will be over turned by the courts is another question.


27 posted on 05/15/2008 10:32:28 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: NormsRevenge
This should be fun. I wonder how the IRS is going to treat "married" homosexuals for purposes of the unlimited marital deduction?

For those of you in Rio Linda, married couples get an unlimited deduction in which they can transfer during life or at death as much of their estate as they like to the other spouse without incurring federal estate tax. The idea being that the receiveng spouse will be taxed on the property transferred at their death.

This is a great planning tool for the gay community if the service goes for it, but it is open to all kinds of fraud and misuse. This could be interesting? Popcorn anyone?

28 posted on 05/15/2008 10:32:54 AM PDT by shawnlaw (Things is things and parts is parts...)
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To: NormsRevenge

California, lol.


29 posted on 05/15/2008 10:33:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge
Once again a few fruitcakes in black robes have overturned the will of the people.

I no longer wonder if their will be a revolution to save America but when.

30 posted on 05/15/2008 10:34:12 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: NormsRevenge
You don't have to be happy to be gay.


31 posted on 05/15/2008 10:35:13 AM PDT by XR7
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To: CondorFlight
But it needs a title/name of its own to differentiate it from creative unions.

Funny, you actually believe that the goal of this judicial activism is to create some kind of gay union. It never was. The way to destroy a title is to expand it until the original is meaningless. If everyone can call themselves a doctor, then what does "doctor" mean? Absolutely nothing. The pagan activists are doing that with marriage.

32 posted on 05/15/2008 10:36:03 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: shawnlaw
This is a great planning tool for the gay community if the service goes for it, but it is open to all kinds of fraud and misuse.

Uh, yeah. In fact, you'd have to be an idiot not to take advantage of this new loophole. I imagine all kinds of business partners and others will get "married" so they can keep their own money rather than throw it down the government toilet. Why not?

33 posted on 05/15/2008 10:36:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: EagleUSA
"Actually, I am headed for San Francisco now, to marry my dog."

Male or female? lol

34 posted on 05/15/2008 10:36:41 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: OKIEDOC
I no longer wonder if their will be a revolution to save America but when.

But it won't be what you would hope for probably.
More likely an Islamic revolution, imposed by sheer terror.

35 posted on 05/15/2008 10:36:50 AM PDT by XR7
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To: NormsRevenge

Sickening. Our republic is dead. We live in a judicial tyranny.


36 posted on 05/15/2008 10:37:10 AM PDT by Antoninus (Siblings are the greatest gift parents give their children.)
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To: TAdams8591

Amazing!! You know why the gays fight so hard for “gay marriage”, right? Now every school must teach that this is an alternate lifestyle included with all others....that is the main reason. Your 6 year child will now be brainwashed into thinking this is “ok”....what a sick group of people. They won’t let 16 year old kids drink, smoke or drive, but they’ll let or support them having sex and risk getting all sexually transmitted diseases including HIV!!

BTW, did you know that 95% of civil unions end up separated before 3 years!!! 95%!!!!!


37 posted on 05/15/2008 10:37:51 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: OKIEDOC

38 posted on 05/15/2008 10:37:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: stevio
You joke about that but California is a huge source of our nations food supply.

Well, true. But mostly because of huge government subsidies for the cost of water in the Central Valley. Without those subsidies, the Central Valley is MUCH less competitive with the Midwest.

39 posted on 05/15/2008 10:38:58 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: EagleUSA

The once-great California is a victim of its own success. Decent people build great things then liberals come in and screw it all up.


40 posted on 05/15/2008 10:39:10 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: NormsRevenge

"We, the People, have spoken."

41 posted on 05/15/2008 10:39:59 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: NormsRevenge

It was inevitable. Never mind what the majority of California citizens want. The narcissistic judges follow the money showered by narcissistic gays who are so enamoured of their own bodily orifices and appendages that they crave others built exactly like themselves to play with, like toddlers. I recently read that the gay market has $60 billion in disposable income, which is why they are pandered to by politicians, media, and corporations. And you ain’t seen nothin’ yet, wait ‘til Obama is president. Can we just find a state and secede NOW?


42 posted on 05/15/2008 10:40:26 AM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: No Dems 2004
"This is probably the worst thing that could have happened for the liberals in this election."

Wishful thinking. The electorate do not separate same sex marriage with dems, look at 2006. Most dems running will say they are either neutral, for civil arrangements or against it then appoint judges to do the dirty work.

Any Constitutional Amendment is dead in the water because the GOP are milquetoast.
43 posted on 05/15/2008 10:40:42 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: NormsRevenge

,,,and the march to the far-left, liberal, nirvana-world contines.


44 posted on 05/15/2008 10:41:33 AM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE--a euphemism for further dividing our country along racial, social and economic lines)
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To: stevio
Or so I’ve been told by Hannity’s call screener when I get through and try to talk about this issue.

Keep in mind who Hannity works for. There are homosexuals in places that could butcher his little cash cow. And I don't care what his ratings are, they would do it in a second if he started attacking homosexuality.

Much of "conservative" talk radio is in the back pocket of militant homo lobby due to their preponderant status in entertainment and advertising.
45 posted on 05/15/2008 10:41:54 AM PDT by Antoninus (Siblings are the greatest gift parents give their children.)
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To: No Dems 2004

Sorry, “do not separate” = “do not equate”


46 posted on 05/15/2008 10:43:37 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: NormsRevenge

State government like this is why, when it comes to levees, I’d rebuild New Orleans’ and blast Sacramento’s.


47 posted on 05/15/2008 10:44:02 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: mikelets456
Your 6 year child will now be brainwashed into thinking this is “ok”....

Which is why we homeschool. Of course, in California, the judcial tyrants declared homeschooling to be illegal.

Their warped agenda is so transparent. In California, you have the freedom to bugger whatever you want, but not the freedom to educate your own child.

Just sick.
48 posted on 05/15/2008 10:45:08 AM PDT by Antoninus (Siblings are the greatest gift parents give their children.)
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To: CondorFlight

Overwhelming Majority of the SC Judges who gave this decision are Republican appointees.

HURL.

We deserve this. Doomed.


49 posted on 05/15/2008 10:47:10 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Now, more than ever, we need Alan Keyes for President.

Before it’s too late.

http://alankeyes.com

http://selfgovernment.us

He’s the complete Reagan conservative who has been right all along.

The McCain GOP will do little more than wink at this travesty.


50 posted on 05/15/2008 10:49:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The formerly grand OLD party has completely Whigged out.( Join the new one: SelfGovernment.US))
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