Skip to comments.
Four REAL Ways the GOP Can Save Itself (A Rejoinder to VandeHei and Allen)
Self ^
| 5/15/08
| LS
Posted on 05/15/2008 11:41:55 AM PDT by LS
Today in the "Politico," Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen offered "six ways" the GOP could "save itself." There are a couple of good ideas; there's a lot of junk. Here is the link (sorry, I'm html-handicapped):
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=E9CE165D-3048-5C12-0076A085B3FE4630
PREFACE: Let me begin by saying I think that for too long we have avoided being blunt because of a (false) view that we have to be "sensitive" and because people don't want "partisanship." I think people DO want partisanship and combat, only will never say so. But it is very clear from their voting behavior that when one side fights and the other side doesn't the one that is "partisan" tends to win. Pres. Bush, whom I love very much, unfortunately learned (as he has now admitted) that his "new tone" was a great failure.
Specifically for Vandehei and Allen, while I can fully agree with the notion that the GOP needs to "clean up its act" and get rid of the immoral bad apples, the notion that Mark Foley or Larry Craig have much to do with the Republicans' current funk is not credible. If it is, however, it certainly begs the larger question as to why Democrats are never held to a similar standard. Well, we know the answer to that, so the question is moot: no party can possibly exclude every one who has a sin problem of one sort or another, and to suggest it's a "GOP Problem" is a whitewash for the Democrats.
In fact, there are a few things the Republicans can do to "save themselves," none of them comfortable or easy, and some of them will likely nudge a couple of people out of the "big tent," while at the same time opening the flap for thousands more to pour in who agree with us.
1) New ideas? Fine. We're all for new ideas. But as Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun. In fact, Newt Gingrich's techno-wonk mini-fixes to serious problems are . . . well, . . . part of the problem. Social Security does need "new ideas." It needs an honest assault on the original idea, in which a courageous Republican will finally say, "The entire premise is wrong. You cannot tax today's employees for the retirement security of today's retirees and pretend they are 'saving' for their own retirement." Is it a political loser? It was for Barry Goldwater. But that was almost half a century ago, before it was overwhelmingly clear that the system is heading for a massive collapse. No one understands this better than my college students, who are generally liberal, but who are tremendously open to privatization concepts. HERE IS WHERE THE BATTLE IS. Republicans, don't run from it. Get aggressive, for a change.
2) As Rush says constantly, "Go on offense." The last time the GOP was on offense was in the 1994 election. Shortly after Newt and the boys (and girls) got their "Contract with America" points passed, they got simultaneously arrogant and lazy. They assumed they had shown Clinton he was whipped, and he should sit back and accept it. Instead, Clinton got a whiff of smelling salts in the corner, had his eye cut, was splashed in the face with some water, and charged out like a bull, knocking the GOP back on its heels. We did not recover, in terms of Congress, to this day.
What Clinton invented was the first 24/7 campaign mode for his side. We still haven't figured this out and McCain's inane comment today that he wanted there is a time to campaign and a time to govern. Sorry Juan: Clinton broke that mold. There is now a permanent, full-time campaign mode, and if you don't have a war room that is effective at selling your message---all the time---you will lose. If there is one thing that we should learn from Bill Clinton, it is that politics is war and the enemy never, ever takes a break.
A revived, successful GOP must be on offense all the time. Patton had it right: attack, attack, attack. No matter how much people say they "don't like it," they lie. They vote for the side that does it, successfully, more often than not. Learn it, live it, love it.
3) Get personal, get specific. Every single Congress person should be running against Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and whoever is on top of the Dem ticket as follows: "Do you know why you are paying $4 a gallon in gas? Because Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama think you need to pay that. They despise your success, they hate your prosperity, and they think you need to be taken down a peg. High gas prices are a good way to do it." Each message, every time someone speaks on TV, on radio, every time, MUST by name attack Democrats. That is the only way to "nationalize" the congressional elections.
4) Be blunt as hell. For too long, Republicans have tried to say "Sure we want a clean environment, but we also need energy. Do it our way and we can do both." THAT'S TRUE, but it's too complex to express on the campaign trail and in 30-second spots, and it makes us look like we accept the greenie arguments. I think a political party is always better forcing people to choose. Reagan never sugar-coated anything, but he presented the unavoidable choice in an optimistic way---and that's the key. Forget "clean environment," and in political terms, don't even argue the reality of "global warming." I would just say, "You can have global warming $2 a gallon gas, or you can have all these green measures and $10 a gallon gas and no light for your houses. Your choice." Correctly presented, this is a no brainer. Only the most radical greenieweenies will choose the former. But the argument has to be made.
We on the right have been consumed with battling the premise of global warming, while in the meantime, the reality of forcing a choice has been ignored or buried in the argument. I don't buy global warming at all, but for the sake of argument, I'd rather have people who said, "Yeah, we have global warming, but I want my $2-a-gallon gas." In other words, we've been so consumed with winning the environmental argument that we've lost the nuts-and-bolts battles. A great example of this was DeWine's vote on ANWAR: you can't tell me that someone couldn't have twisted his arm somehow, promised him something, to have gotten that one vote.
4) Stop wasting time on inane, utterly ridiculous goose-chases such as NFL taping, MLB steriods, or televangelists. How completely ridiculous. The Founders would be sickened that our senators have nothing better to do than to investigate the New England Patriots and Benny Hinn! This convinces people, more than ever, that the Republicans are out of touch. USE YOUR POSITIONS TO EXPOSE THE DAMAGING RESULTS OF DEMOCRAT POLICIES AND POLITICIANS!!! Investigate them! Expose them! Attack them!
Finally, it's silly, as VandeHei and Allen do, to chide donors for not "opening their wallets" when as of now, they have nothing or no one to open them for. Soros was important, not because he poured money into the moribund Democrat Party, but because they gleefully used the money to attack Republicans. Right now, it would be a total waste of money for millionaires to support this group of whiners, "bipartisans," and wimps. If, however, you can find candidates and officials who are effectively attacking Democrats, they should be funded out the wazoo.
History shows us that since the end of the Whigs (who never had a chance, hence they were called "stillborn" by one historian), we have had two viable parties and only two viable parties. That won't change. Change must come within the GOP. We did it before, we can do it again. But a major purge is in order, and I fear some black times are ahead for the country until we get our act together.
TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; bush; gop; mccain; rinohunt
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-50, 51-54 next last
1
posted on
05/15/2008 11:41:56 AM PDT
by
LS
To: LS
This is all good advice, but I'm not sure there's enough time left to implement it before November. These are the kind of things that lower your approval ratings in the short run while people are getting used to hearing your new, aggressive tone. The time to have started doing these things was January of last year.
2
posted on
05/15/2008 11:47:16 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jeeves
("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
To: LS
“1) New ideas? Fine. We’re all for new ideas. But as Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun. In fact, Newt Gingrich’s techno-wonk mini-fixes to serious problems are . . . well, . . . part of the problem. Social Security does need “new ideas.” It needs an honest assault on the original idea, in which a courageous Republican will finally say, “The entire premise is wrong. You cannot tax today’s employees for the retirement security of today’s retirees and pretend they are ‘saving’ for their own retirement.” Is it a political loser? It was for Barry Goldwater. But that was almost half a century ago, before it was overwhelmingly clear that the system is heading for a massive collapse. No one understands this better than my college students, who are generally liberal, but who are tremendously open to privatization concepts. HERE IS WHERE THE BATTLE IS. Republicans, don’t run from it. Get aggressive, for a change..”
Stupid! This is a recipe for GOP destruction, especially in these times. This is the third rail.
To: LS
History shows us that since the end of the Whigs (who never had a chance, hence they were called “stillborn” by one historian), we have had two viable parties and only two viable parties. That won’t change. Change must come within the GOP.
Those currently populating conservative third parties were once Republicans. They rightly feel especially this year, that their prescence in the party is not wanted. You get the Republican Party back on track and these folks will come home.
I say this as a 20 year Republican voter with one foot out the door.
4
posted on
05/15/2008 11:56:44 AM PDT
by
Grunthor
(Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
To: Anti-Bubba182
You think that Republicans should remain as whiny Dem-lites ?
5
posted on
05/15/2008 12:00:09 PM PDT
by
nicola_tesla
("Life is Tough... It's Worse When You're Stupid".... John Wayne)
To: Anti-Bubba182
"
... Stupid! This is a recipe for GOP destruction, especially in these times. This is the third rail. "
You're right.
The reason is that our colleges are teaching socialism, and other than sex with anything is alright, and a few math classes that's the extent of the education for most.
Middle agers are keeping their fingers crossed that the stock market & economy doesn't go bust, causing them to lose their savings & investments.
The retirees are saying give me more of someone elses money.
The youth could care less. It will all be fixed by the time they retire ... which to them is a few thousand years from now.
6
posted on
05/15/2008 12:03:47 PM PDT
by
G.Mason
(Duty, Honor, Country)
To: LS
The thread to which you're responding was posted twice.
Shouldn't you post your response twice too?
7
posted on
05/15/2008 12:05:25 PM PDT
by
ASA Vet
(Do we really want either Huma Abedin or Michelle Obama answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
To: LS
No response to #4 Burn the Bush.
Yeah, folks we’ve watched how the office was trashed from day one and we’ve got notes.
Karma is a bitch!
8
posted on
05/15/2008 12:07:48 PM PDT
by
griswold3
(Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
To: nicola_tesla
I think they should use common political sense. This is not it. It is in the category of suicide by high sounding bromide. The Democrats will slaughter the GOP if they go this way.
Mike Allen
"..Mike Allen is the chief political correspondent for Politico. He comes to us from Time magazine where he was their White House correspondent. Prior to that, Allen spent six years at The Washington Post, .."
Jim VandeHei
"..Jim VandeHei, 36, is one of the co-founders of Politico. He left The Washington Post, where he was national political reporter, to join forces with John F. Harris (his former boss at the Post) and the finest collection of journalists around to attempt to create a new and exciting way of delivering political news..."
Do you think these two have any sincere good will for the GOP?
To: ASA Vet
Why, is my response that good? Feel free.
10
posted on
05/15/2008 12:14:54 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
Guys..a lot of folks seem to think what’s happening to the GOP is suicide....I contend its homicide.
In my mind, I keep coming back to what happened to Tom Delay.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802383/posts
Washington is so jammed with parasites looking for a teat...that ANY organized opposition-IOW any Conservatives-will be run out of town . Period. This, folks, is a far BIGGER problem than just one with the Republican leadership.
Pay attention the the Farm Bill that just passed. Its not the average American Joe that is demanding handouts that’s driving the bus here.
Its any large organization that has the cash to buy a few K St. lobbyists to twist congess arm. The boys on Capitol Hill that are unresponsive to said arm twisting...well these organizations can afford to make sure theyre replaced in the next election cycle-and in fact, with what the new boys will send them legislatively will far more than make up for the cost of replacing a recalcitrant congresscritter. We Americans have a far bigger problem on our hands here than any of us could possibly imagine in our worst nightmare.
11
posted on
05/15/2008 12:16:12 PM PDT
by
mo
To: Mr. Jeeves
You’re right. I certainly didn’t mean to suggest the GOP could do this before November. I fully expect to lose in November, and lose big. This is the long-term battle plan for after McCain and a few more of the incumbent wimps are gone.
12
posted on
05/15/2008 12:16:30 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: Mr. Jeeves
I submit that there is indeed a large segment of the GOP voting base that thirsts for a leader who will simply tell it like it is. Somebody in the Republican Party who will stand up in front of the mics and say, “I’ve had it. McCain is a loser who ought to be in the traitor rat party.
Republicans don’t go for illegals running wild in the streets and then being given citizenship over people who have waited in line for years to do it right.
Republicans don’t go for the b.s. of Globull Warming or for taxing and holding back only one country for its supposed effects: the United States.
Republicans are for crushing our enemies on the field of battle, as expeditiously as possible, while avoiding pointless diplomacy and negotiations with terrorists who cannot be trusted in the first place.
Republicans believe in smaller government, and work to reduce the bureaucracy.
Republicans believe in business, and work to see that American business thrives.
Republicans believe in a strong dollar, and work to see that the money we invest and save retains its value.
Republicans believe in freedom, and work to see that others who value freedom succeed in their efforts, at home and abroad.
Republicans believe that America is the best friend you’ll ever have, or the worst enemy imaginable; your choice.
Republicans believe that being dependent on foreign oil is unacceptable, and work to be self sufficient by drilling our own damned oil to drive our cars and trucks, building hundreds of Gen 4 Nuclear Reactors to produce electricity to run our growing factories and improving electrical infrastructure to reflect our growing economy.
The current nominee-in-waiting has expressly come out against these points. He is unfit to be the nominee of a party that stands by them.”
Of course, nobody in the Republican Party believes any of that anymore, or, if they did, have the guts to stand up and say it.
Rush is wrong. We’re screwed.
13
posted on
05/15/2008 12:16:41 PM PDT
by
BrewingFrog
(I brew, therefore I am!)
To: LS
This:

is the world in which we are increasing bidding against China and India for oil.
This:

is how much difference drilling in ANWR (for example) would make.
And that is why baring another worldwide depression along the lines of the 1930s, the only way we are would be getting back to $2 gas would be to invade the countries with larges slices of that first graph, and take their oil by force.
Which is why the VandeHei & Allen and their ilk are no friends of any sort of conservative movement that intends to play a useful role in US energy policy, and why time spent listing to their brand of ignorance is time spent avoiding REAL (and politically really hard) choices about energy policy.
14
posted on
05/15/2008 12:18:57 PM PDT
by
M. Dodge Thomas
(Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
To: griswold3
Burn the Bush is equally stupid. Learn from the Dems. They NEVER abandon their own. William Jefferson? Carter? Kerry? All continue to be supported. The message is, when you start trashing your own, everyone thinks less of you immediately.
This has been one of the GOP's biggest problems---the willingness to throw overboard Foley, Burns, or whomever. As much as I don't want a Foley in the party, the time to deal with him is when you are in a position of strength, quietly. You get him re-elected first, then he "suddenly" has "family issues," leaves, and you replace him. NEVER turn on one of your own currently serving. The Dems have that right.
15
posted on
05/15/2008 12:19:48 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: Anti-Bubba182
These young voters will be tomorrow's regular voters, and no, they "don't think it will be fixed." Quite the contrary, they know better. They want solutions. They are eager for ANYONE to take this on, and don't see anyone on the horizon.
If there is one issue in 10 years that I've seen younger voters actually glom onto, it's SS reform.
16
posted on
05/15/2008 12:22:27 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: Anti-Bubba182
These young voters will be tomorrow's regular voters, and no, they "don't think it will be fixed." Quite the contrary, they know better. They want solutions. They are eager for ANYONE to take this on, and don't see anyone on the horizon.
If there is one issue in 10 years that I've seen younger voters actually glom onto, it's SS reform.
But this was just an EXAMPLE of the kinds of arguments that the GOP is losing. You can't fix the country by continuing to spend on Medicare and SS. Everyone knows they both need serious repair. It's a winner.
17
posted on
05/15/2008 12:23:21 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
RE: Oil There’s double the proven US reserves under North Dakota, enough to shatter the stranglehold of OPEC. RE: Ethanol. Sorgum generates four times the ethanol of corn, costs much less to produce, gives more grain per acre.
However, the big problem is that Republicans are “Democrat lite”. Until they become a different party, and become a true conservative party, there’s no reason to vote for a Republican.
18
posted on
05/15/2008 12:26:33 PM PDT
by
rstrahan
To: BrewingFrog
HUH? I just heard Rush agree with every one of those points. The only question is whether a Republican liberal or a Democrat liberal will be in office in 2008. I personally prefer the Dem, because I think you need to rub the GOP's noses in defeat so they really get it. I think Rush still prefers a blocking action while regrouping, but I don't know. But he has said many times we are screwed no matter who wins.
19
posted on
05/15/2008 12:26:40 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: rstrahan
Exactly, and this is precisely the type of argument our side should be making. "Why in the world are we paying $4 a gallon for gas when the U.S. has more than enough oil to handle us AND China?"
BTW, I think anyone in ANY discussion of energy who doesn't first and foremost begin with, "China will use more oil in 10 years every day than we import now," is utterly failing to pin the tail on the donkey. We need to make it clear that if we changed every damn light bulb and stopped every car, China and India will still suck up all the existing oil in no time. The only answer is drill, drill, drill and continue to substitute effectively and experiment. But there is no alternative but to get more energy!
20
posted on
05/15/2008 12:30:03 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
If there is one thing that we should learn from Bill Clinton, it is that politics is war and the enemy never, ever takes a break. I wish the Democrats could come to view terrorists and dictators in this same light...
21
posted on
05/15/2008 12:31:17 PM PDT
by
IamConservative
(Character: What you do when no one is looking.)
To: BrewingFrog
22
posted on
05/15/2008 12:33:25 PM PDT
by
Grunthor
(Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
To: LS
I have a few of my own:
1. PURGE the party of all RINO Socialists.
2. Repeat number one.
23
posted on
05/15/2008 12:34:40 PM PDT
by
stockpirate
(Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
To: LS
Excellent!
I thought the issues should be resolved by the voters in their own state or district.
If a Rep’s own voters call for his head, it is their right. No one else’s.
The Dems are going to attack John McCain by ‘hanging President Bush around his neck’.
Yet, if you question Barry’s associations, they scream “McCarthyism” to ward you off.
Well, I guess they don’t remember history very well, McCarthy was right!
President George W Bush is a good man in a hellhole! Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t, but he says what he means and means what he says. You can take that to the bank.
24
posted on
05/15/2008 12:37:48 PM PDT
by
griswold3
(Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
To: IamConservative
Yah, I know. It’s frustrating. But the 24-hour, cable news cycle has created a phenomenon that the GOP has not yet responded to, which is a permanent election cycle. This isn’t bad: it can be a permanent EDUCATION cycle. But we aren’t using it because Juan doesn’t want “partisanship.”
25
posted on
05/15/2008 12:41:53 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
I posted this on the original thread for the
Politico article...
I dont know that I can come up with six ideas, but heres a few...
1) On the war: Have the guts to tell the American people Grow up! Weve been at war with Islamofascism since before Jimmy Carter left Plains to pretend to be President. Whining and bitching about the war wont end it. It ends when we kill the bastards who started it or they kill us. Theres no in-between. You may not like the way George Bush has run the war, but at least he had the balls to actually do something about it. Can you say the same thing about any Democrat whos not named Lieberman?
2) On Family values: Stop carping about them! The GOP spends way too much time worrying about whos schtupping whom and in what position. We wind up sounding like a bunch of Church Ladies and get little done to actually promote the values we claim to support. Government cant promote family values. The best you can hope for is that it does as little damage as possible. Dont whine about Britney Spears flashing her goods outside a nightclub. Instead, point out that she and her fans are overtaxed and that this harms all families. Then point out that the Dems think that were all undertaxed.
3) On man-made global warming: This is a tough one since most of our idiot neighbors buy into this myth. But whatever we do, McCains stupid carbon tax crap isnt the answer! Killing off the American economy wont change the Earths surface temperature by a single milliKelvin. Instead, hijack some of the Greenies ideas and promote them from a national security angle. Reducing fossil fuel use wont affect global temperatures, but it will de-fund our enemies. (Giving the Saudis money that they, in turn, give to Al Qaeda is pretty stupid.) If it turns out to benefit the environment, so much the better. But point out that the Democrats only plans end with the US economy in the crapper.
I can probably come up with more; so can others here. But in any case, its a sure bet that the Stupid Party wont listen.
26
posted on
05/15/2008 12:44:57 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(The 2nd Amendment: It's not about sporting goods.)
To: BrewingFrog
Rush agrees with all of your items? How is he wrong?
(I hope you don’t expect him to whine and cry in public on how we are going to lose? Unlike FR, he is trying to be productive not wallow in defeat)
27
posted on
05/15/2008 12:53:43 PM PDT
by
roses of sharon
( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
To: LS
This bunch is not going to do anything that resembles smart. They sold us out for at least four years and they are trying to out spend the dummies. I hope they do get beat we need another crop of REAL conservatives.
28
posted on
05/15/2008 12:54:52 PM PDT
by
ontap
(Just another backstabbing conservative)
To: LS
Rush says we will get blasted with McCain or Obama but if it’s McCain we will get blamed. The theory is two years of Dummycrat rule will get the Pubs back in power. Trouble is we don’t want the same ones we have.
29
posted on
05/15/2008 1:03:03 PM PDT
by
ontap
(Just another backstabbing conservative)
To: roses of sharon
My line about Rush was that during a portion of his show today, he was indeed doing his best to stay away from wallowing in defeat. He pointed out that he believes that we are not screwed, and that he (publicly) refuses to think about it. He is thinking positive. The glass is half-full.
I submit that he is wrong in his conclusion.
Now, you are correct in that his public attitude of positive courage is the correct course to take. But, nonetheless, either McCain or Obama is the next President. Hence, we’re screwed.
Unfortunately, I did not listen far past this point in his show. It seemed that he was wrestling with trying to figure out a positive course of action to take.
Wallowing in defeat at this point is useless. It denotes acceptance, while I am still at the “anger” stage, although, barring some type of unexpected miracle, America will be saddled with a traitor ‘rat Congress and either a Marxist or a Fool as Chief Executive.
I would think the Rush would enthusiastically support every item on that list, and would trumpet with great fanfare any Republican who had the spine, guts or functioning genitalia to get up and say it. Sadly, the Party and its worthless hacks are falling into line behind the Fool as their “savior.”
As a humble (but wordy) salesman in South Texas of limited means, who had no say in McCain being the presumptive nominee, who has no leverage whatsoever upon the High Panjandrums who run the RNC, what exactly am I to do but use my words? My vote will be cast for McCain, but I have no hopes of any Administration of his being anything but a bitter disappointment. An Obama Administration would be an outright catastrophe, and I will choose bitter disappointment over outright catastrophe any day.
America can recover from a bitter disappointment. Perhaps Rush wasn’t so wrong after all...
30
posted on
05/15/2008 1:20:40 PM PDT
by
BrewingFrog
(I brew, therefore I am!)
To: mo
I contend its homicide. ... Conservatives-will be run out of town . Period. This, folks, is a far BIGGER problem than just one with the Republican leadership. ... We Americans have a far bigger problem on our hands here than any of us could possibly imagine in our worst nightmare. Strongly agree. Thanks for posting that link to the interview. I missed it last year.
31
posted on
05/15/2008 1:28:17 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: roses of sharon; BrewingFrog
An old Gunnery Sarge told me once.
"Brave is taking on ten guys, stupid is taking on 100 guys."
32
posted on
05/15/2008 1:30:58 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
To: mad_as_he$$
And taking on 1000? 10,000?
What great philosopher once said, “This calls for a really stupid, futile gesture!” Heh...
What other way is there to defeat them except to fight them? Many are fighting with small gestures, like refusing to send the RNC anything except ‘Juan de Gringo’ notes. Others are trying to disrupt their State Conventions to see that a McCain slate is not approved. But, sadly, the vast majority of the Conservatives that have made up the GOP Base for years are simply resigned to defeat. They need to be led, led by somebody who will strike through this cloying stupidity and “bipartisanship” smog emitted by the McCain/RNC bunch.
What would be accomplished by this? Probably nothing in the short term. But, like Reagan who backed down at the ‘76 Convention to return triumphant in ‘80, of such seeds sown are greater things yet to come. Even if McCain is elected, he will not serve two terms. His cronies will be on borrowed time from the day they sit down at their desks.
All it takes is for somebody to stand up and say it. Take the short term fire from the Usual Suspects and take it with pride. Either win today, or win tomorrow.
Jeez, I need a beer...
33
posted on
05/15/2008 1:55:29 PM PDT
by
BrewingFrog
(I brew, therefore I am!)
To: ontap
34
posted on
05/15/2008 2:36:50 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: Redcloak
Yep. All good. I do think we should BE the moral party, but not announce it. The best argument for good morality is to live it, not preach. As you say, the sinners lead to charges of hypocrisy.
My take on Global Warming, as you see, is that it may be futile now to keep arguing about it, and it might make more sense (not that I'm "accepting" the libs' premises, but rather ignoring them) to simply present stark choices to people. And you're right on the WoT. It's clear now that Reagan misunderstood the Islamic threat---it's ok. He had other things taking priority, but we've gone through four presidents who didn't get it. Bush mostly got it, but stopped short of explaining the struggle to the peeps.
35
posted on
05/15/2008 2:41:03 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
This has been one of the GOP's biggest problems---the willingness to throw overboard Foley, Burns, or whomever. As much as I don't want a Foley in the party, the time to deal with him is when you are in a position of strength, quietly. You get him re-elected first, then he "suddenly" has "family issues," leaves, and you replace him. NEVER turn on one of your own currently serving. The Dems have that right.You have this exactly right and I wish every GOP operative and boss would read it. The self-defeating strain in the republican party has done immeasurable harm not only to the party but to the Nation as a whole.
They seem to believe that if they dump a Foley publicly the public will take note, approve, and give them credit. Wrong. They fail to factor in that the media in cahoots with the 'rats will make it a smear on the whole party regardless.
And anyway, why should an electorate that twice elected Bill Clinton and scoffed at his criminal impeachment be expected to show respect now just because the republicans do the same to one of their own?
To: rstrahan
Sorgum generates four times the ethanol of corn, costs much less to produce, gives more grain per acre.Apparently American farmers don't want to grow sorghum as much as they do corn. Lets's face it, this whole ethanol abortion has been about subsidies to voters in coveralls and to hell with the real public interest.
To: hinckley buzzard
Yep. William Jefferson, D-LA, is still in his seat, if I’m not mistaken. Isn’t the guy in W VA, Mollohan, also in his seat?
38
posted on
05/15/2008 3:28:36 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
Number one on the list of things the GOP needs to promise is that they will pass a Constitutional Amendment limiting Senate terms to 2 and House terms to 4.
It has to be a Constitutional Amendment or it will be just another pandering show-boat law that will get stricken in court.
The GOP lost congress because they stayed in charge too long and got comfortable with the beltway mentality.
39
posted on
05/15/2008 3:37:51 PM PDT
by
EricT.
(The tree of liberty needs to be watered...)
To: EricT.
As one 1994 House member said, "We came to DC looking to drain the swamp and after a couple of years decided it was a hot tub."
I think the USSC, though, has already ruled term limits unconstitutional, so it absolutely would have to be a constitutional amendment.
40
posted on
05/15/2008 3:44:24 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
They knew it was a show-boat pandering law when they passed it.
The GOP’s problem is that it’s base is too smart to play political games with. That’s another problem they need to address if they want to regain a majority. We’re tired of the pandering. We want results.
41
posted on
05/15/2008 3:59:21 PM PDT
by
EricT.
(The tree of liberty needs to be watered...)
To: LS
The last time the GOP was on offense was in the 1994 election. That's also the last time the Democrats controlled Congress and the White House. When that happens again Republicans will be ready.
Get personal, get specific. Every single Congress person should be running against Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and whoever is on top of the Dem ticket as follows: "Do you know why you are paying $4 a gallon in gas? Because Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama think you need to pay that. They despise your success, they hate your prosperity, and they think you need to be taken down a peg. High gas prices are a good way to do it." Each message, every time someone speaks on TV, on radio, every time, MUST by name attack Democrats. That is the only way to "nationalize" the congressional elections.
Republicans have to do something this year, and that's as good as any other suggestion, but the average American has only a dim idea who Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid is. Going on about how they mean to destroy us is going to get tired pretty fast.
42
posted on
05/15/2008 4:12:15 PM PDT
by
x
To: LS
“...president bush learned..... unfortunately..... that his new tone was a failure.”
tyranny never dies. it only takes up new residence when it gets chased from one place to another. now, it has taken up residence in the democrat party where it has found a hot house in which to thrive.
(unfortunately, the “electorate” will vote for the democrat scu&bags in droves and give them veto-proof majorities, and, will they compromise with conservatives?))
43
posted on
05/15/2008 4:55:57 PM PDT
by
ripley
To: Mr. Jeeves
“These are the kind of things that lower your approval ratings in the short run while people are getting used to hearing”
Congress’s approval rating according to Gallup this week sits at 18%. How much lower could it go?!
To: LS
...a courageous Republican will finally say, "The entire premise is wrong. You cannot tax today's employees for the retirement security of today's retirees and pretend they are 'saving' for their own retirement." Only in my dreams will anyone say that.
45
posted on
05/15/2008 5:37:54 PM PDT
by
MaggieCarta
(Disobedience is in our DNA. - Charlton Heston)
To: x
You’re right. They don’t know now. But how many people knew who Newt or Tom DeLay were until the Dems demonized them in every single speech?
46
posted on
05/15/2008 5:53:18 PM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: LS
"You can have global warming $2 a gallon gas, or you can have all these green measures and $10 a gallon gas and no light for your houses. Your choice."You do not have to make the choice that stark. If Republicans would just start harping about energy independence constantly, Global warming would quickly become a non-issue. Few people will worry about a future potential climate change when confronted with an immediate peril.
47
posted on
05/15/2008 6:16:22 PM PDT
by
CharacterCounts
(When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
To: LS
Why are you giving a pep talk to a bunch of spinless greedy emasculated lobotanised idiots?
They are there not to serve but to loot.
48
posted on
05/15/2008 8:43:31 PM PDT
by
kennyboy509
(Ha! I kill me!)
To: CharacterCounts
We disagree. I think part of the reason we are in this pickle is that Republicans have refrained from making “stark” choices and from naming names.
49
posted on
05/16/2008 6:20:00 AM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: kennyboy509
In our system, there are, and can only be, two competitive parties. That's reality. Learn it, live it, love it.
I plan to do all I can to save the one that most closely resembles what I believe in. You're free to opt out and to into the bunker.
50
posted on
05/16/2008 6:21:03 AM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-50, 51-54 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson