Posted on 05/15/2008 12:54:22 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
U.S. House defeats $162.5 bln in new war funds Thu May 15, 2008 3:42pm EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday defeated legislation that would have funded the war in Iraq for another year, in a surprise move that the Senate could overturn.
By a vote of 149-141, the Democrat-controlled House rejected a measure that would have given the Pentagon $162.5 billion to keep the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan running through next summer, slightly below President George W. Bush's request.
A large group of anti-war House Democrats voted against the funds. That, coupled with 132 Republicans voting "present," meaning neither "yes" nor "no," killed the measure for now.
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TRAITORS!!!
Yep. And if Republicans are smart, they will make this a campaign issue.
Why in the HELL would 132 Republicans vote ‘present’ instead of a simple ‘Yes’???
is their a list of who voted and how they voted?
The names of all those voting against funding our troops should be published, along with the 132 spineless creatures who failed to vote.
I am sure glad that McCain can work with the democrats...
This goes right to the heart of what is wrong with the sudo-Republican party as a whole and this country in general.
I would like to see the list of voters. 132 rino’s?
No worries, they passed the farm bill by a veto-proof margin. /sarc
Some kind of strategic vote, maybe. So they force the Dim congressional leaders to taylor some aspect of this bill slightly more to their liking, until they have “traded enough horses”, and then they vote “yes”.
the 132 spineless creatures who failed to voteObama's voting history includes a lot of "present" votes.
The Republican party is following in the footsteps of a great anti-American with this behavior.
Cowards. They deserve defeat in November!
P.S.Take note RNC/RNCC! Now stop calling asking for money!
“That, coupled with 132 Republicans voting “present,” meaning neither “yes” nor “no,” killed the measure for now.”
Present????? Hardly. Out is better. Out of their minds that is.
Guess there is cheering in the mountains in Afghanistan and Waziristan tonight.
What gutless imbicles. The GOP is room temperature.
“I am sure glad that McCain can work with the democrats...”
I am not going to vote for McCain. I will vote for local and state offices. The Rats would walk all over him anyway.Let Obama win and *if we survive*, a good conservative should win in 2012. Why prolong the agony. Let the stuff hit the fan and wake up the stupid American people.
Maybe that is why they voted “present”, to make the ‘rats show their true colors.
A large group of anti-war House Democrats voted against the funds. That, coupled with 132 Republicans voting "present," meaning neither "yes" nor "no," killed the measure for now.
Hold on! There are only 435 seats in the House. How do these numbers add up? 149 "nays" plus 141 "yeas" plus 132 "present" adds up to 422 -- but the "yeas" and "presents" yield 273 Republicans?
Don't we wish?
This report earns an "F" on math.
Because the bill has a bunch of garbage in it................. last I saw there was a timeline for withdrawal in the bill.
What color is the sky in your world?
Everyone Settle Down.
The GOP voted present because there were clauses in the bill that would micro manage deployment schedules in such a way as to prevent the military from continuing the march to victory. They knew that this choice would force the Senate to address the issue in a “clean” bill which will be voted on next week, and the Emmanuel conservative Dems will support it with the GOP — administering perhaps the ultimate embarrassment to Pelosi when a bill gets through the House with a majority of Democrats opposed.
THE LAST TIME I SAW THIS BILL THERE WAS A TIMELINE FOR WITHDRAWAL BUILT INTO IT!!!!!
If that timeline was still in the bill then that would be the reason the Republicans voted present.
12 didn’t vote, and I *think* there is a vacant seat somewhere. Either that or the tally is incorrect.
This is a deceptive article. The vote for an amendment to the bill.
Apparently, there is a Senate amendment with additional 3 House amendments. Each House amendment was voted on separately. H-Amendment 1 failed [reported in the Reuters article], 2 and 3 passed.
The House website does not give enough information to determine the contents of the amendments [that I could find].
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR02642:@@@L&summ2=m&;
You got it exactly right.
Get a rope... we got ourselves some serious house cleaning to do.
This is the Chicken Liver House GOP members punting it over to the Senate rather than putting their initials by it.
Here is what we should hear on national TV in prime time (but won’t):
GW: “Ladies and Gentlemen. I come to you tonight to announce that beginning immediately, we will begin withdrawing 100% of our forces from Iraq and Afghanistan. Liberals in congress have expressed their desire to throw away the lives of our brave men and women who have fought for right and justice against the throws of Islamic Terrorism.
By refusing to fund the continued battle against terrorism, these politicians are putting politics above national security, partisan issues over moral issues, and ve demonstrated that they really do not care about the future security of the United States.
But I wish at this time to express my concerns that without a complete victory in the war against terrorism, we are doomed to see even more grievious attacks not only in the USA, but around the world by the newly emboldened terrorists. So when the death toll rises due to the murderous cowards of Mohammed and Allah, please remember my words.”
Of course he has it right. The DNC operatives here on FR are paid to grab at any opportunity to suppress the GOP vote this year.
This is all orchestrated and does not differ from 2000 and 2004 (nor 2006, actually, though that was a perfect storm of corruption scandals) in what we saw here.
Weak-kneed sissies, is what we call them. Check my tag line. I will never give in to evil, no one should.
The vote against it. Voting present is a cheap escape.
Judging the responses on this thread I’d say the GOP is in huge trouble. Even when they do the right thing it seems like they haven’t. FR is a hornets nest right now!! LOLOL!!!
Oh sure Einstein that will work...sheesh do you not read?
That, coupled with 132 Republicans voting “present,” meaning neither “yes” nor “no,”
The alternative is that many of the "yeas" were Democrats. And, if many Democrats were in favor of the bill, why weren't most Republicans?
It was the sham bill that was stuffed with a huge GI bill that allowed military personal to have full college after only 3 years of service. This would have depleted the Armed Forces and very expensive to train people who can just leave in 3 years.
The DemocRATs staged this knowing the Republicans would let it fail so that the Rats would look like the defeated the funding of the Iraq War. PURE POLITICAL THEATER BY THE DISGUSTING RATS!
The GOP has got our feathers in a ruffle with their moves lately. I think we’re just expecting the worst every time they even have a vote.
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN08395161
It was a surrender bill, which would have been vetoed by Bush!
Would that not instead be a reason to vote "nay"? Why would voting "present" be preferred?
Read post #40 #37 and #35
Because it means that they want to pass the budget but change the details. It's a PR thing as well. Otherwise the media would say that the Republicans reject the war funds. As they did it, the Bill will have to be changed to get the Republican nod. The "No" votes were from the anti-war Democrats who finally had to cater to their moonbat base. The "yea" votes are from Democrats who weasly fund the war, but want a date for surrender and further sneak-in crap.
Thanx for that data! Makes a difference...
Excellent tag line! Thanks!
Because they don't want to be victims of Democrat propaganda this November: imagine the ads: Republicans voted "no" for a bill to fund our troops, a bill that would have provided our troops with college educations and much needed benefits that they deserve."
Well, someone did a really poor job of reporting.
Reuters... what else to expect?
This just sends a message to terrorists, “keep killing”!!
The traitors are sacrificing American lives for the sake of their sorry political asses.
BINGO!!
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