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McCain says Obama and Clinton threaten gun rights
Yahooo ^ | May 16, 2008 | Caren Bohan

Posted on 05/16/2008 9:06:03 PM PDT by Red Steel

LOUISVILLE, Kentucky (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain warned gun owners on Friday that his Democratic opponents Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would threaten their right to bear arms, as he sought to rally conservatives' support in the November election.

The right to bear arms in the Constitution's second amendment is considered sacred by many U.S. gun owners. Both Obama and Clinton tout their support for it, although they also say ways must be found to keep guns from falling into the hands of criminals or those who are mentally ill.

But the Arizona senator accused the two Democrats of giving only "theoretical" support to the second amendment.

"They claim to support hunters and gun owners. But just because they don't talk about gun control doesn't mean they won't support gun control," McCain told a convention of the National Rifle Association.

"If either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is elected president, the rights of law-abiding gun owners will be at risk. They have both voted as senators to ban guns or ban ammunition or to allow gun makers to be sued out of existence," he said.

Obama, an Illinois senator and the front-runner in the battle for the Democratic nomination to run against McCain in November, countered by accusing him of trying to whip up fear about his positions and using the "same playbook" from other elections.

"I think people have the right to lawfully bear arms. I do believe that there is nothing inconsistent with also saying that we can institute some common-sense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago," Obama said while campaigning in South Dakota.

BACKGROUND CHECKS

Reasonable gun laws would include strong background checks of those who sought to buy weapons and tracing guns back to "unscrupulous" gun dealers who sold them to people who shouldn't be able to get them, Obama said.

The influential gun rights organization's convention drew some 70,000 people and its panel of speakers included other well-known Republicans, including former presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.

Huckabee, interrupted by a loud crash as he spoke, joked that the noise was Obama falling off a chair as he dodged a gun aimed at him. "That was Barack Obama. He just tripped off a chair. He was getting ready to speak and somebody aimed a gun at him, and he dove for the floor," Huckabee said.

The former Arkansas governor later apologized, saying it was an "offhand remark that was in no way intended to offend or disparage Senator Obama."

McCain's appearance was part of his attempt to shore up support among the conservative base of his party.

McCain has differed from the National Rifle Association on some issues, said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, who cited McCain's support for requiring background checks for people who make purchases at gun shows.

"That's one of the disagreements we've had," LaPierre told the Louisville Courier-Journal. "On the other hand, Senator McCain is the only one in the race that has a pro-gun record of any kind."

To underscore his support for gun rights, McCain stopped in a gun store in West Virginia. But the senator, who does not hunt, walked past the rifles and picked up a fishing pole instead.

"I'm very well versed in the use of firearms. I carried a firearm in combat. I've used them in the past. I'm just not a hunter," said McCain, who served as a Navy pilot in the Vietnam War and is a former prisoner of war.

(Additional reporting by Jeff Mason, editing by Chris Wilson)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; barackobama; democratparty; democrats; elections; gunvote; hillary; mccain; nra; obama
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1 posted on 05/16/2008 9:06:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Pot calling kettle black! all three have had their moments of anti gun and as liberals they will continue to do so.
2 posted on 05/16/2008 9:08:56 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Red Steel

McCain keeps mentioning hunting, hunting....as if the Second Amendment has a damn thing to do with hunting!

Senator, the founding fathers intended for the citizens of the country to have firearms so that they, the citizens, would have a means to overthrow a tyrannical government if such as government should every come into being. Sheesh!


3 posted on 05/16/2008 9:12:42 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (McCain......Obama......Hillary......in a nation of 300 million people, is this the best we can do?)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Correct.


4 posted on 05/16/2008 9:17:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I’m not gonna trust him.


5 posted on 05/16/2008 9:18:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: Red Steel

A liberal RINO who forms a coalition with the drunkard Ted Kennedy threatens gun rights.


6 posted on 05/16/2008 9:19:59 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: org.whodat
Pot calling kettle black!

You are saying that McCain is worse than Hillary or Obama on guns? Nonsense. McCain is about a B+ on guns. Hillary and Obama are both Fs.

7 posted on 05/16/2008 9:21:38 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Red Steel

btt


8 posted on 05/16/2008 9:22:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Red Steel
LaPierre told the Louisville Courier-Journal. "On the other hand, Senator McCain is the only one in the race that has a pro-gun record of any kind."

Which is precisely the way I see it.

McCain is unlikely (or less likely) to appoint judges who will confiscate firearms; and/or will define the Second Amendment out of existence.

And then...we can institute some common-sense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago," Obama said...

As always, Obama hasn't a clue as to what laws already exist and will steadfastly refuse to be specific on what "common-sense gun laws" just might be.

9 posted on 05/16/2008 9:24:29 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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McCain says Obama and Clinton threaten gun rights

Says the man sporting an "F-" from Gun Owners of America.

What's next, a claim that they threaten free speech rights? Amnesty for tens of millions of illegals? Global governance via the global warming scam?

Pot, meet kettle.

10 posted on 05/16/2008 9:25:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I have a clear record of working with Dems. I will appoint Dems to my administration." -Sen McCain)
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To: Red Steel

McCain promoting the Bill of Rights?? The sky must be falling.


11 posted on 05/16/2008 9:26:45 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Hugin
McCain is about a B+ on guns. Hillary and Obama are both Fs.

McCain's GOA rating is "F-."

12 posted on 05/16/2008 9:26:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I have a clear record of working with Dems. I will appoint Dems to my administration." -Sen McCain)
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To: Hugin
You have a reading problem, I said they , all three have had their anti gun moments. Most people can understand that. At best mcisane may have a C rating.
13 posted on 05/16/2008 9:27:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Red Steel
McCain has differed from the National Rifle Association on some issues, said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, who cited McCain's support for requiring background checks for people who make purchases at gun shows.

"That's one of the disagreements we've had," LaPierre told the Louisville Courier-Journal. "On the other hand, Senator McCain is the only one in the race that has a pro-gun record of any kind."

I'm so tired of this "background check" BS being mischaracterized by the press. I just have to wonder if it's really due to stupidity rather than being devious as the law as it stands gets quoted time after time after time.

Purchases at gun shows across the US are subject to background checks. No ifs, buts, hunting, fishing, tyranny or anything else. One more time for clarity for our presstitute friends:

PURCHASING A GUN AT A GUNSHOW IS SUBJECT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK.

Perhaps I'm just not putting it right.

IF YOU WANT TO BUY A GUN AT A GUNSHOW, YOU MUST UNDERGO A BACKGROUND CHECK.

Think they understood that? Nah. Me neither. But, I do have a gunshow to go to tomorrow. Yay!!!!! And I may buy a gun at the gunshow or outside of the gunshow!!!

14 posted on 05/16/2008 9:28:55 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: Hugin
"2004 Based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionnaire sent to all Congressional candidates in 2004, the National Rifle Association assigned Senator McCain a grade of C+ (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F)."Look it up before you distort if you don't know. And this was before his most recent anti gun moves.
15 posted on 05/16/2008 9:31:16 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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This is the pot calling the kettle black indeed. Just more election posturing.


16 posted on 05/16/2008 9:37:31 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Red Steel
I carried a firearm in combat.

Most likely a .38 special or maybe a 1911. But notice he never said he used one. His weapons were 500 lb bombs, by necessity dumb ones, attached to Heinemann's Hotrod, aka; The Scooter, the Tinkertoy, or the A-4 Skyhawk. Pretty much like these:


17 posted on 05/16/2008 9:43:04 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hugin
McCain is about a B+ on guns. Hillary and Obama are both Fs

His 2004 rating from the NRA was C+. That's about the same as a D or D- for a Dem. Don't know about yours but my Mama didn't pay for anything below a B, and they weren't worth much.

18 posted on 05/16/2008 9:45:54 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Red Steel
The organization I trustmost gave McCain a 'mixed' rating, roughly equivalent to a B- to C. They gave Obama an 'unacceptable' rating roughly equivalent to an D or F.

Obama voted to ban almost all ammo and voted against allowing self-defense pleas when someone uses a gun in a gun ban zone - all of Chicago. He supports the so called "assault" weapons ban. He supports a total handgun ban. He supports frivolous lawsuits against firearms manufacturers. He opposed Roberts and Alito.

McCain isn't perfect. We all know his gun shows stance and McCain-Feingold. At the same time he voted wrong on gun shows, he voted against the AWB and to stop frivolous lawsuits. He signed the DC v Heller brief that broke with the BS third way approach given by the Bush administraion. He also voted for Roberts, Clarence Thomas, and Alito.

McCain isn't a gun owner's first choice. He isn't the last choice either among Republicans and is better than Romney or Giuliani.

We could have done better, but also could do worse.

19 posted on 05/16/2008 9:48:11 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: VeniVidiVici
PURCHASING A GUN AT A GUNSHOW IS SUBJECT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK. Perhaps I'm just not putting it right. IF YOU WANT TO BUY A GUN AT A GUNSHOW, YOU MUST UNDERGO A BACKGROUND CHECK.

Only if you buy from a licensed dealer. Your state may have different laws, but federal law only requires the check if you buy from a federally licensed dealer. That's the same if you buy at a gun show, or in a gun or pawn shop. Just as you do not need to have the check if you buy a gun from a person who is not a dealer, whether you do it in his house, your house, or at a gun show.

20 posted on 05/16/2008 9:50:17 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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