Posted on 05/16/2008 11:14:33 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Crown Heights erupted in anger today as hundreds marched in protest after a 16-year-old Jewish teen was beaten and robbed in the early morning hours.
Police have made no arrests and have named no suspects, but the incident raised tensions that have simmered since the racial uproar of the early 1990s.
"Jewish blood is not cheap and we are making that statement," said Getzy Markowitz, 23, one of up to 300 people who marched in protest yesterday afternoon. "We are standing up for life an standing up for justice."
Cops said that Alon Sherman was riding his bicycle north on Albany Avenue at 12:10 a.m. this morning, when he was smashed in the head by an unknown object.
He couldn't tell cops exactly what happened next, but two 911 calls were made - one of which reported a young man lying in the street and another that reported two suspects fleeing the scene.
Sherman was robbed of his wallet, his cell phone his watch and his bicycle. He was knocked unconscious and left with cuts, bruises and head injuries. He was then taken to Kings County Hospital.
Cops have not ruled the attack a hate crime - angering members of the Jewish community who believe the beating and robbery was directly connected to tensions between Crown Heights' Jewish and African-American communities.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Happens all the time in the “urban” areas, if you know what I mean. They are crazed, liberal, and the police have no power over them.
A man from the small town of Saint Helens, Oregon, was driving through northwest Portland around 11:30 pm one night, and on the approach to the Fremont Bridge he was shot to death in a drive-by shooting. A car full of black teenagers were reported to have done the shooting, then driven over the bridge and into Albina, a section of Portland, Oregon, that has a predominately black population.
Portland’s Chief of Police, Charles Moose, refused to call it a hate crime. Instead, he said it was most likely just a gang initiation, as though that made any difference.
All murders are hate crimes.
Now, if it were a car full of White teenagers - it would obviously be a ‘hate crime’. After all, only white people are capable of ‘hate crimes’, right?
I find this whole ‘hate crime’ to be juvenile in the extreme. I don’t care what the perps reasons are for attacking, robbing, raping or killing someone else. Those are just rationalizations for committing a crime. Laws should punish the crime, not buy into the rationale behind the crime.
If I kill someone because he’s green, I am guilty of murder. The fact that he was green and I was not, is of no consequence. Murder = Death penalty. Very easy stuff here.
If a green person abused me - that’s a rationalization. He’s just as dead because of my rationalization, as he would be without any rationalization. All we have done is set an uneven set of rules that some people can use, and others cannot, for the same criminal activity.
But, like the GOP’s lack of a backbone has demonstrated - facts don’t matter. What matters most is how someone ‘feels’ about it.
Jewish blood?
Look, I’m the first to support Israel in the Middle East, but thise seems racist to me. Is “Jewish blood” more valuable than mine? If they had said, “Israeli blood” then I could see it as patriotism. What if they said, “arian blood?”
Am I alone on this?
Ah ol’ Moosie on the job! Worry not, he has put out an APB for a blonde man driving a “white van”
I hope that you are. Lets over react, shall we?
Ha! :) Point taken.
Just seems like an unnecessary and strange statement to me.
At 3 billion taken from the American tax-payer and nothing given in return, it is darn expensive.
Jewish blood?Nope. The whole "our blood is not cheap" thing gets used the most by the Palis. I would think a Jewish community would have the sense not to use that kind of rhetoric.Look, I’m the first to support Israel in the Middle East, but thise seems racist to me. Is “Jewish blood” more valuable than mine? If they had said, “Israeli blood” then I could see it as patriotism. What if they said, “arian blood?”
Am I alone on this?
Israel does the jobs Americans won’t do and takes out the trash.
Syria and Iraq would have gone nuclear if it wasn’t for the Israelis. Saddam with nukes would not have been a pretty picture.
The second American civil war is coming
The “Jewish blood” statement was made by just one 23 year old guy in the crowd, so it’s curious the Post chose to make that the headline.
If you write ad copy you'd know that rates pretty high for emotional value.
No, you are not alone. I find such tribalism un-American.
To be fair, most people fall back to tribalism when they feel they have been singled out because of it, which probably was the case here.
Well, sure, and if we're talking about something said in the heat of the moment then one can expect people who are angry or afraid to lash out. But when you are participating in a demonstration, or reporting on one, then this is a poltical act and should be subject to more sober reflection.
If the injured young man was targeted because of racism then that is an important fact and it is a moral wrong that should be condemned by all Americans regardless of their ancestry or faith. But to respond to racism with appeals to racial solidarity undermines the American creed of e pluribus unum.
Whenever I participate in a demonstration on any issue I take the least bit personally, I always make it a point to direct all media inquiries to someone else (and preferably someone I know to be both more articulate and less excitable than myself). I highly recommend that others do the same.
“Jewish blood is not cheap and we are making that statement,”
*low whistle*
hmm, that’s a lot of ammo for the anti-semites to play with.
The murder of Jews and Israelis in America is NEVER a Hate Crime or terrorism, is it? From LAX to NY.
That sort of Passive Outrage did wonders for about six million European Jews some years ago.
The only statement understood by thugs is Immediate and Overwhelming Force
Also no description of the two suspects hmmmmmm
mid to late 80s, 2 crimes
first crime- "the central park jogger". young woman jogging in the park is attacked, beaten savagely with a pipe and gang raped by a dozen (or more if I recall) black kids, 15 to 20 years old maybe. Police arrest a bunch of them. Howls of protest, Al Sharpton and his idiots spring into action, allege the NYPD went out and arrested the first 12 black kids they found. racism, police brutality, yada yada yada.
second crime-a couple of black kids go into a pizza joint in Howard Beach Queens( may have been Brooklyn tho..like I said, fuzzy details). they're attacked by some of the local white macho-moron-quido teens.the black kids run away, don't recall if they were roughed up much in the pizza joint. Anyway, as these black kids are running, being chased by the Gotti-youth, one of them runs into trafiic, is hit by a car and killed.
here's the contrast: black pizza kids every bit as innocent as the jogger. the Gotti-youth every bit as viscious as Sharpton's ghetto youngsters. but in court, DNA evidence was required to prove that each and every kid physically assaulted the jogger - some might have been bystanders you know. i think some were aquitted or convicted on lesser charges due to this. While over in Queens (or Brooklyn) the the mobster-wannabes were convicted (or charged at least) just becuse it was proven they were at the pizza parlor and were chasing the black kids.
first crime- "the central park jogger". young woman jogging in the park is attacked, beaten savagely with a pipe and gang raped by a dozen (or more if I recall) black kids, 15 to 20 years old maybe. Police arrest a bunch of them. Howls of protest, Al Sharpton and his idiots spring into action, allege the NYPD went out and arrested the first 12 black kids they found. racism, police brutality, yada yada yada.That actually *was* racism. The actual culprit, Matias Reyes, was already in jail. Those kids were just scapegoats, although they weren't the nicest bunch by any means.
I believe that what you say regarding the “Central Park jogger” case is false. FReepers interested in a different perspective on what happened and Matias Reyes’ role might want to read this contemporaneous article by Ann Coulter:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter101702.asp
I believe that what you say regarding the “Central Park jogger” case is false. FReepers interested in a different perspective on what happened and Matias Reyes’ role might want to read this contemporaneous article by Ann Coulter:Anne is just trying to score points here. Those kids weren't involved in that attack. Coulter bases her argument on three assumptons, 1. That confessions mean something and 2. that a bunch of feral young gangsters would actually help a rapist without raping the victim themselves. 3. That Reyes acted in groups.http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter101702.asp
Do you really think that if the young gangsters actually helped Reyes they wouldn't have rolled over on him during their confessions? They only implicated *the other people the police considered suspects*, awfully convenient don't you think?
Do you really think young hooligans with a chance to gang rape are going to pass up the opportunity? If those kids had did it, there would have been a ton more DNA at the scene. These kids didn't become delinquents with their good impulse control.
Finally in the other crimes Reyes was convicted of, *he acted alone*. Why, all of the sudden, do you think he needed a gang of thugs, completely beholden to him, when he'd been a solitary predator in the past?
Ba-a-a-ah humbug.
Crap, my daughter lives a block away from where this happened.
Crown Heights sucks.
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