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Will Californians submit?
Onenewsnow.com ^ | 5/16/2008 | Jan LaRue

Posted on 05/17/2008 4:32:34 AM PDT by kindred

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To: Philly Nomad
And until somebody shows me how gay marriage is going to ruin their own marriage, then we are just being busybodies.

If what gays say they "want" is actually largely available to them within current legal remedies-- or legislation well short of "gay marriage" -- then aren't they the ones being "busybodies"?

What is the point of "gay marriage", if it is not to undermine the institution of marriage?

21 posted on 05/18/2008 4:13:04 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: an amused spectator

If there were reputible scholars you would have easily pointed them out to me.

Well Ronald Reagan had a divorce, And Nancy had three? Were the Reagan’s responsible for the destruction of the societal concept of Marriage?


22 posted on 05/18/2008 8:22:59 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: okie01

But how does their getting married, undermine your marriage? Are you going to run away to San Francisco to hook up with you teammate from High School? Gay marriage has no effect on any current hetrosexual marriage, the only good thing is there will be a lot of straight couples who will have to shut up about “We aren’t getting married becausee the gays can’t and that’s just unfair.”

Those other legal remedies are a pain in the ass to get resolved, it requires lawywers to draw up the contracts and they can still come under challenges from courts and outside family members. Hell must be freezing over, when freepers are trying to give lawyers more business.


23 posted on 05/19/2008 4:44:09 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: Philly Nomad
But how does their getting married, undermine your marriage?

It doesn't. Don't be absurd. My concern isn't about my marriage. It's about the institution of marriage -- and, therefore, the marriages of my grandchildren.

You simply can't assume that broadening the rules of marriage to include something it has never included won't change its very nature over the long-term. After all, the legislators who created Aid for Dependent Children presumably never realized that, in doing so, they were contributing to the destruction of the black family.

You start tinkering around with long-standing institutions like family and marriage -- ones that have been proven over not just generations but millenia -- you're going to create some havoc. Unintended, perhaps, but havoc nonetheless.

And, by some, it might not really be unintended...

Those other legal remedies are a pain in the ass to get resolved, it requires lawywers to draw up the contracts and they can still come under challenges from courts and outside family members.

A pain in the ass? Sure. But doable. And it would be a whole lot easier for legislators and the voting public to deal with those specific remedies -- rather than overturning a long-standing institution against massive resistance by the public.

So, why is the gay lobby choosing to attack marriage -- rather than the specific legal problems they say they want to fix.

Think about it...

24 posted on 05/19/2008 6:57:02 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Philly Nomad
If there were reputible scholars you would have easily pointed them out to me.

They're easily found - but I suspect you're not interested.

I'm not going to do any legwork for a contrarian n00b. Remain benighted. :-)

25 posted on 05/19/2008 3:19:18 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: an amused spectator

It’s obvious you don’t know what you are talking about. And the conservatives who are pushed out of the GOP by busybody bluenoses like yourself, enjoy your minority status.


26 posted on 05/19/2008 4:40:42 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: an amused spectator

Yep, you’ve got nothing left but name calling - obviously you are a deeply closeted homosexual - with your only link to happiness is keeping Adam and Steve from getting married.


28 posted on 05/20/2008 5:11:56 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: Philly Nomad
LOL!

That the best you got, n00b?

29 posted on 05/20/2008 11:39:45 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: kindred; All
Romans 1:25-27 tells us that same-sex sexual relationships are a consequence of idolatry. In other words, such relationships are a consequence of disobeying the 1ST COMMANDMENT, a major aspect of the GREATEST COMMANDMENT, to love the jealous God with all your being.

Homosexuals need to keep in mind, however, that the good news of the gospel is not about how God despises same-sex sexual relationships. In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that certain members of that church had been slaves to such relationships but had been cleansed in Jesus' name. So these former homosexuals had evidently repented and accepted God's grace to straighten their lives out.

John 3:16
Revelation 3:20

30 posted on 05/20/2008 11:48:50 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: theBuckwheat

If you take a step back and look at the bigger picture, the culture war, you’ll have your answer to

“What do liberals really want?”.

And that answer is the deconstruction of the traditional family unit, followed by the destruction of the traditional Western Christian culture.

The “gays” don’t really want to be “married”. In Canada, where it’s legal, only 5% of the homo couples get “married”. It’s about taking away and deconstructing the base of our culture, the traditional family unit.


31 posted on 05/20/2008 11:51:28 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: okie01
So, why is the gay lobby choosing to attack marriage -- rather than the specific legal problems they say they want to fix.

This is obvious to any that have eyes and understand that the left seeks to destroy all vestiges of traditional Christian values and replace them with their own humanist/Marxist society.

32 posted on 05/20/2008 11:56:45 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: an amused spectator
That's all I need to do with the likes of you, now you'll declare victory say I'm not worth your time, and post a 1/2 dozen more times claiming you aren't spending any time on me. You Internet tough guys are all the same. Have fun cruising bathrooms with Larry Craig.
33 posted on 05/20/2008 12:48:11 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: an amused spectator

call me noob one more time, it’s the only thing you have.


35 posted on 05/20/2008 7:06:41 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: Philly Nomad
There's nothing else there of substance, n00b13.

I reviewed your other posts on this thread, and they're like cotton candy. All sound and fury, signifying nothing but your moderate, middle-of-the-road fence-sitting.

You been in New York too long. You should move to a real state - you're not holding up as well as Behind Liberal Lines or governs. Maybe you have "Cankleitis". :-)

36 posted on 05/20/2008 8:19:27 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: an amused spectator

Look, if you are going to live your life in fear of the gays go right ahead.

But remember this, NYC is the economic engine that keeps this country running. Without NYC, the US would just be Mexico with white people.


37 posted on 05/20/2008 8:47:32 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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