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The Myth of the RINO?
Hot Air ^ | May 18, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 05/18/2008 12:08:37 PM PDT by EveningStar

...Poole’s analysis shows a fascinating and perhaps disturbing trend. Despite the perceptions of many in and out of the blogosphere and punditry, the parties have moved away from compromise, not towards it...

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; dino; gop; mccain; mcrino; rino
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1 posted on 05/18/2008 12:08:38 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I think JS McCain has a pretty good rebuttal for Ed's argument.
2 posted on 05/18/2008 12:15:30 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: EveningStar

Given this election “Hot Air” is a good name for the source of that conclusion!


3 posted on 05/18/2008 12:17:42 PM PDT by Nateman (RINO leaders have less opposition thereby maximizing damage!)
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To: Dawnsblood

McCain is a rightwing Democrat.


4 posted on 05/18/2008 12:18:00 PM PDT by kjo
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To: EveningStar
Morrissey can try and spin it by citing arbitrary criteria but it doesn't change the fact the GOP has incrementally moved to the socialist left over the years by appeasing to the socialist left to expand the voter base. They have become one socialist Republicrat party.
5 posted on 05/18/2008 12:18:50 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: kjo

The McCain I linked calls himself the “Other McCain” for a reason. He is a journalist who happens to share his last name with the potential nominee. They do not see eye to eye on much.


6 posted on 05/18/2008 12:20:24 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: EveningStar

That’s his conclusion? Move to the Center ??

FUD !


7 posted on 05/18/2008 12:20:48 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: Man50D
I agree. I think they've been secretly working behind the scenes for decades and are only now showing their true colors cause the baby boomer's (who would fight them) are dying off and our children have been grossly dumbed down via government indoctrination centers (public schools).
8 posted on 05/18/2008 12:23:57 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
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To: EveningStar

I believe that McCain is the epitome of the term RINO. Either that or the battle for the Repube party is lost and now conservatives are the RINO’s.


9 posted on 05/18/2008 12:25:36 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: RachelFaith

What I posted was a teaser, not his conclusion.


10 posted on 05/18/2008 12:29:50 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Dawnsblood
The McCain I linked calls himself the “Other McCain” for a reason. He is a journalist who happens to share his last name with the potential nominee. They do not see eye to eye on much.

Yes, R.S. McCain has also been referring to the Republican nominee as "Crazy Cousin John" since 2006 or earlier.
11 posted on 05/18/2008 12:30:45 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Breaking News: Chocula drops out of presidential race over Frankenberry VP scandal.)
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To: EveningStar
"Despite the perceptions of many in and out of the blogosphere and punditry, the parties have moved away from compromise, not towards it..."

He's right, the Republicans don't compromise...they capitulate.

12 posted on 05/18/2008 12:31:25 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: Dawnsblood

Thank you.


13 posted on 05/18/2008 12:35:48 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

You’re welcome


14 posted on 05/18/2008 12:44:23 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: EveningStar
In 1968, McCain would have been on the right wing of the Republican Party, and both Obama and Clinton would have been significantly on the left side of the Democrats.

Bullpucky. Goldwater was on the right wing of the party in 1968. Rockerfeller and Lindsay were on the left. Nixon was right in the middle. McCain is a Nixon Republican/Scoop Jackson Democrat, although that is probably unkind to Scoop Jackson.

Nixon is the guy who brought us wage-and-price-controls and the Endangered Species Act and, of course, his administration ushered in one of the most disastrous periods of democrat control over our nation, ever.

McCain and Bush are both Nixon Republicans and have brough the same disaster to their party as did Nixon.

15 posted on 05/18/2008 12:52:29 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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But Morrisey is right.
Most of Republican officeholders are good conservatives.
But the tiny GOP majority and since 2006 the GOP *minority* cannot stop a DEMOCRAT CONGRESSIONAL MAJORITY from moving to the left. When the GOP was the majority, the ‘swing votes’ were alas the RINOs like Chaffee (now an Obama supporter!) and Spectre. There was never a conservative majority, just a narrow GOP majority, and the RINOS stopped conservative agenda items and ruined the GOP brand.

But that was 2006.

This is the biggest error of the “they are all RINOs” complaints. We need to look at current reality not history.
Current reality is that the Democrats have the majority and the GOP has the minority. The Democrats have pushed a number of liberal agenda items and the vast majority of Republicans have opposed them. There are clear and stark differences between the parties in the Congress.


16 posted on 05/18/2008 12:56:37 PM PDT by WOSG (Gameplan: Obama beats Hillary, McCain beats Obama, conservatives beat RINOs)
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To: EveningStar
Kudos to Poole!

Not only has he done absolutely fascinating statistical analyses:

He also shows the parties in their TRUE COLORS, namely, blue for 'Pubs and red for Dhimms. Very refreshing!

17 posted on 05/18/2008 1:04:02 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: EveningStar

Myth?


18 posted on 05/18/2008 1:06:59 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: ModelBreaker; EveningStar

Nixon’s domestic policies were fairly liberal.
McCain’s agenda is conservative on Taxes, Spending, judges, earmarks/pork, litigation, etc.
McCain is liberal on immigration and environment.

On balance, McCain is to the right of how Nixon governed.
The GOP as a whole has moved significantly to the right; Goldwater begat Reagan, and the bulk of the party are now Reagan Republicans. Even McCain pays tribute to Reagan.
McCain is much like the first Bush, except for being more to the right on spending.

But Nixon was a traingulator, ‘our Clinton’, whereas McCain has a hearfelt populist reform streak. McCain’s hero is TR (Teddy Roosevelt), which is curious coincidence, because Teddy Roosevelt was a good President who ended leaving the party in 1912 out of disappointment it wasnt progressive enough for him. our first RINO. The result was President Wilson and our first step to big Govt.

TR could well be the patron saint of RINOs.
McCain will govern more conservatively than some expect, but at the same time will enrage rightwingers when he does his TR things.


19 posted on 05/18/2008 1:08:29 PM PDT by WOSG (Gameplan: Obama beats Hillary, McCain beats Obama, conservatives beat RINOs)
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To: WOSG
This is the biggest error of the “they are all RINOs” complaints.

I agree with your assessment.

The problem is, as you pointed out, the minority of Rinos squandered the Republican control of both houses of congress and the WH. The backlash is only going to force more Rats down our throats. But I don't blame all Republicans, only the Rinos (people like DeWine, Voinovich, and McCain).

On the bright side, I think the Rats and media are misreading the polls. They will gain in the short term because of the conservative backlash. They become more emboldened and become even more disagreeable. In the long run, they will lose because people just don't want more disgusting Rats and their policies in control. The Republicans will hopefully find another conservative leader.

I do not believe a three party system will work. It divides the vote too much. This is not to say I am married to the Republicans. If a truly conservative "third party" came along and enough support was obtained, I'd like to see the Republicans fade away.

20 posted on 05/18/2008 1:19:31 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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