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As Clinton's candidacy fades, supporters' hope for equality fades with it
The Buffalo News ^ | May 18, 2008 | Jerry Zremski

Posted on 05/18/2008 2:03:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

As Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton faded from Democratic presidential favorite to runner-up, Lynn Z. Tulumello and countless other women from coast to coast looked on, aching with a disappointment far greater than the one that comes with losing.

“I don’t want us to have this chance and for it to end with women looking at their daughters and saying, ‘If I had had a boy, he could have done anything,’ ” said Tulumello, a 47-year-old South Buffalo resident with two grown daughters. “I’m sure Hillary feels the same way.”

No doubt about it: Many women feel the same way.

As the first woman with a serious chance at the presidency has fallen behind a younger, less-experienced male candidate, many of her female supporters see not a failed candidacy, but a lost chance for women to solidify their place as equal players in U.S. society.

Some even say they see parallels between Clinton’s fate and their own, recalling times when they fell victim to the sexism that they believe has haunted and hurt the Clinton campaign.

In interviews and on the Internet, they’re making it known that they’re angry — and some say they will take out their anger on the man who stood between Clinton and the White House: Sen. Barack Obama.

“If Obama is the nominee, I’m going to switch my registration to independent,” said Deborah Gilels, a media consultant in Los Angeles. “I’ll vote for John McCain.”

Political scientists say voters like Gilels are an important part of Democratic primary voters who, in exit polls, say they will vote for McCain, the Republican candidate, or not vote at all in the fall.

(Excerpt) Read more at buffalonews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; clinton; feminists; hillary; obama; womanpresident; womensvote
Interesting, I never thought of Hillary as a woman. But I guess behind every lousy man is (depending on what the meaning of is, is) a lousy woman. I don't know why women would identify with Hillary but if it helps McCain - who cares?
1 posted on 05/18/2008 2:03:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Hillary is evil, and without a doubt she is very dangerous.

That said, I will take her any day over Obama.

Have you been reading the latest posts about Obama's beliefs about Israel? He called them a "sore" in the Middle East!!!!

At least Hillary is willing to "obliterate" Iran.

2 posted on 05/18/2008 2:06:53 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Fear not - Operation Turndown has begun:

http://hillary1000.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/women-threaten-obama-boycott/


3 posted on 05/18/2008 2:09:12 PM PDT by JavaJumpy (Let's have a whinefest, shall we? Mark Levin)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Alas, if Hillary goes down, American women will have to take up wearing those FLDS outfits and hairstyles...

By the way, has anyone actually seen any nineteenth-century photographs featuring those do’s?


4 posted on 05/18/2008 2:10:17 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“I don’t want us to have this chance and for it to end with women looking at their daughters and saying, ‘If I had had a boy, he could have done anything,’ ” said Tulumello, a 47-year-old South Buffalo resident with two grown daughters. “I’m sure Hillary feels the same way.”

...FOOL! Hillary wants to be President/Czar/Queen/Dictator/Despot! She wants to tax the s%^t out of you! She wants you to be dependant on her for your health! She wants to limit your free speech and your right to bear arms.
STUPID A@@! This has NOTHING to do with “women forging forward” in our society. It’s about an evil, serpeant named Hillary Rodham Clinton who’ll stop at nothing to control you, your family and your country! Idiot!


5 posted on 05/18/2008 2:11:41 PM PDT by albie
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To: Berlin_Freeper
‘If I had had a boy, he could have done anything,’

Gag me! I see women get promotions over men ALL the time, in fact, nearly all the top posts where I work are held by women now whereas just a few years ago they were held by men.

Get over it ladies, Hillary is an extremely poor choice as the first woman President, she is a proven liar and absolutely unscrupulous in every way imaginable. However, the real reason she isn't going to get the dem nod is race trumps gender right now in the mighty world of identity politics. Barack is just too cool to pass up for the all the nutjobs that would have voted for Hill.

6 posted on 05/18/2008 2:11:51 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Asked on his deathbed why he was reading the bible, WC Fields replied "I'm looking for loopholes.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Just so whiney Lynn Z. Tulumello doesn't ever have the chance to say "if I'd only had a boy he could have ended up as a President...like Barack Obama".
7 posted on 05/18/2008 2:12:03 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Me too. all my hopes and dreams are fading.


8 posted on 05/18/2008 2:12:34 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Berlin_Freeper
From this week's Factor:



Democratic Defectors?
Some Hillary Clinton supporters claim they're ready to bolt Democratic Party

9 posted on 05/18/2008 2:14:15 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: sinanju
Alas, if Hillary goes down...

Ahem... the words, "Hillary" and "goes down" should not be used in the same sentence.

10 posted on 05/18/2008 2:16:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
They should not give up!

March on you women,take it to the Democratic National Convention,August,Denver;)

11 posted on 05/18/2008 2:18:37 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: mdittmar

CHAOS


12 posted on 05/18/2008 2:19:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (CHAOS)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

>>lost chance for women to solidify their place as equal players in U.S. society.

What the hell are these silly bit**es talking about? My wife (age 60) is a senior Boeing-747 captain. I think that qualifies for “equal player” status.

Sorry, ladies, the Hillabeast team blew it fair and square - they could have gone after the Rev. Wright thing instead of leaking their petty whines about him. The Chicago papers broke it first; all his tapes were available on the church’s website . You had your chance and blew it. Get over it.


13 posted on 05/18/2008 2:19:45 PM PDT by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don’t know qhy they’re so upset - Obeyme has a vagina, too.


14 posted on 05/18/2008 2:25:35 PM PDT by Eurale
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To: Berlin_Freeper
looking at their daughters and saying, ‘If I had had a boy, he could have done anything,

Either males are vastly superior to females or women like this are just plain, all-around losers.

15 posted on 05/18/2008 2:27:06 PM PDT by Rudder ("There is only one chief. Obey him." [Rush Limbaugh, April 30, 2008])
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To: Berlin_Freeper
supporters' hope fades

Yes but my hopes for a slew of tell-all books by former Clintonists skyrockets!

Come on, guys and gals.. million$ to be made!

16 posted on 05/18/2008 2:34:12 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“If this election is about four white men, there could be some backlash or residual anger played out,” said Kathleen A. Dolan, a political scientist at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. “It would tell women that they are the new African- Americans of the Democratic Party

What is this idiot "political scientist" talking about? Obama is "white" all of a sudden? News to me, but then I don't think like a female college perfesser.

17 posted on 05/18/2008 2:37:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: All

A short video every American should view.
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/


18 posted on 05/18/2008 2:40:08 PM PDT by cyberella
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What this person doesn’t realize is that women can be ANYTHING THEY WANT. No one is stopping them. hillleree is an attorney, a wife, mother, first lady, author, senator and now presidential candidate. If THAT isn’t accomplishing anything then I don’t know what is.

hillereee applied for a job she couldn’t do. Plain and simple. She applied and she lost. She said in her own words to think of this as a Hiring Decision. Well, that’s obviously what people have done.

As for women thinking they can’t tell their daughters anything positive then that’s THEIR problem. I would venture to say lots of daughters will be successful over their lives IN SPITE of the feminists and hillleree and people who think in such negative terms.

It’s ALSO called choice. Didn’t the feminists coin that word? CHOICE THIS AND CHOICE THAT? Well, it’s obvious the choice was made by a LOT of people that Obama is their choice. It’s the American way. We choose whom we want to vote for. hillllereee lost. Plain and simple. Did these women think it was HERS just because she wanted it? Did these women think it was HERS just because she was the first woman to run? They are dellusional if they did. I would vote for a woman in a heartbeat but NOT because she is a woman. That’s stupid. I would vote for a woman in a heartbeat if she was the character, dignity and intelligence of a Margaret Thatcher or Jeanne Kirkpatrcick. Sorry ladies...hilllereee doesn’t hold a candle to either one of them.
Thinking it belongs to HER just because she is a woman is downright silly. You vote for someone because you believe in what they say and do and what they say they can do NOT because of their race, gender or religion.


19 posted on 05/18/2008 2:48:21 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Yes but my hopes for a slew of tell-all books by former Clintonists skyrockets! Come on, guys and gals.. million$ to be made!

Yep, you can just hear the chorus of "Ding dong the witch is dead!"

20 posted on 05/18/2008 2:52:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“If Obama is the nominee, I’m going to switch my registration to independent,” said Deborah Gilels, a media consultant in Los Angeles. “I’ll vote for John McCain.”

Yeah! YOU GO GIRL!! I've seen women on "The O'Reilly Factor" and heard a woman on Sean Hannity's Radio Broadcast say that women supporting Hillary are uniting to dump the Democratic Party if Hillary does not get the nod.

O.K., raise your right hand if you think they'll follow through on this? No one; thought so.
21 posted on 05/18/2008 2:56:41 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: no dems; All
O.K., WOMEN FOR HILLARY UNITE! IT'S TIME TO SERIOUSLY PLAN TO RUN HILLARY AS AN INDEPENDENT.

C'MON GIRLS; YOU CAN DO IT!

22 posted on 05/18/2008 2:59:24 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Is it any wonder that so many young girls are screwed up? Their mothers, who grew up reading about another generation of women burning their bras, etc., have made no progress and are no smarter than their icons from the ‘60s. They are all just running in place while their daughters seek out therapists and a “hidden” camera to strip for.


23 posted on 05/18/2008 3:05:52 PM PDT by rabidralph (Hey, Liberals! Where's my "War-for-Oil" oil?)
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To: no dems
RE: RUN HILLARY AS AN INDEPENDENT

Yes, the ultimate Operation Chaos.

Go go for it, Rush!

24 posted on 05/18/2008 3:38:01 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: no dems

Who are these dumb a$$ women? I have 4 very successful daughters highly educated managing children husbands and careers. They sure as hell didn’t need a woman president to get there nor do they want to see a Hillary Clinton in the White House. What a bunch of losers Clinton supporters are.


25 posted on 05/18/2008 4:04:54 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Berlin_Freeper
From article: “I don’t want us to have this chance and for it to end with women looking at their daughters and saying, ‘If I had had a boy, he could have done anything,’ ” said Tulumello, a 47-year-old South Buffalo resident with two grown daughters. “I’m sure Hillary feels the same way.”

Oh. So, Chelsea is being told that she cannot run for President and win if her mom loses this race.

That's emotionally abusive.

26 posted on 05/18/2008 4:09:23 PM PDT by Alia
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Sad to say, but some people on this board are sorry to see Hillary go down in flames. They were planning on voting for her against McCain

I on the other hand will be dancing and sipping on a 20-year old wine when she finally ends her campaign - hopefully next week. Ding dong the wicked witch......


27 posted on 05/18/2008 4:38:22 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (Rush wouldn't lift a finger to help Fred or Duncan, yet he shills for Hillary. Rush is a fat idiot.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I entered the business world as a female stockbroker in the mid-70's. There was a lot of opposition to women in that profession at the time.

I never cried "sexism", neither should hillary.

We are judged by our performance, not our gender.

28 posted on 05/18/2008 5:07:56 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

My beloved Buffalo is gaga for Hillary. The Buffalo News could print her dry cleaning receipts and its circulation would go up. It’s not easy living behind enemy lines.


29 posted on 05/18/2008 5:42:56 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"why women would identify with Hillary"

Only some do.

That would be the perpetually aggrieved, sour-faced, saggy-titted, old commie lesbians.

Commonly known as "Feminists"

30 posted on 05/19/2008 4:11:00 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

Me too, but-I refuse to believe the Clinton era is finally over until she cries and gives her concession speech-NOT one second before.


31 posted on 05/19/2008 5:51:20 AM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: mimaw

Chill out mimaw! We know the Clinton gals are a bunch of old, hag feminists, but hey, if they can stir up enough chaos in the Dem ranks to cause Obama to lose the election, cut ‘em some slack.


32 posted on 05/19/2008 8:44:37 PM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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