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Stranded in Suburbia (NYT, Krugman Have A Message For Suburbia)
New York Times ^ | 19 May 2008 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 05/19/2008 11:43:15 AM PDT by shrinkermd

...But we’re living in a world in which oil prices keep setting records, in which the idea that global oil production will soon peak is rapidly moving from fringe belief to mainstream assumption. And Europeans who have achieved a high standard of living in spite of very high energy prices — gas in Germany costs more than $8 a gallon — have a lot to teach us about how to deal with that world.

If Europe’s example is any guide, here are the two secrets of coping with expensive oil: own fuel-efficient cars, and don’t drive them too much.

Notice that I said that cars should be fuel-efficient — not that people should do without cars altogether. In Germany, as in the United States, the vast majority of families own cars (although German households are less likely than their U.S. counterparts to be multiple-car owners). To see what I’m talking about, consider where I am at the moment: in a pleasant, middle-class neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping.

It’s the kind of neighborhood in which people don’t have to drive a lot, but it’s also a kind of neighborhood that barely exists in America, even in big metropolitan areas. Greater Atlanta has roughly the same population as Greater Berlin — but Berlin is a city of trains, buses and bikes, while Atlanta is a city of cars, cars and cars.

And in the face of rising oil prices, which have left many Americans stranded in suburbia — utterly dependent on their cars, yet having a hard time affording gas — it’s starting to look as if Berlin had the better idea.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: gasoline; krugman; suburbia
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The future as seen by Krugman, Pinch, NYT and the Democrat Party.
1 posted on 05/19/2008 11:43:18 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
but Berlin is a city of trains, buses and bikes, while Atlanta is a city of cars, cars and cars.

Then what was it I rode to the airport? They have a pretty good subway.

2 posted on 05/19/2008 11:45:31 AM PDT by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: shrinkermd
To see what I’m talking about, consider where I am at the moment: in a pleasant, middle-class neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping.

Apartments? As in, nobody owns their home? Doesn't sound middle class the way I know it.

3 posted on 05/19/2008 11:47:45 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: shrinkermd

Public transit can work for some people, but it’s never going to work for all people. There are a lot of situations where you might have to take a job that’s out of reach of public transit because you need a job and that’s the one you got.


4 posted on 05/19/2008 11:49:05 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: shrinkermd

Tapping some of the huge amounts of reserves on our terroitory and off our shores might help also.


5 posted on 05/19/2008 11:49:47 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842; shrinkermd

meant to say territory

computer is acting up


6 posted on 05/19/2008 11:50:30 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: RockinRight

Most families own their “apartments”.
We call them condominiums over here.


7 posted on 05/19/2008 11:53:41 AM PDT by kkalman
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To: shrinkermd
with easy access to public transit

And that is an option for everyone, right?...right?
8 posted on 05/19/2008 11:55:00 AM PDT by steel_resolve (We are living in the post-rational world where being a moron is an asset)
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To: shrinkermd

Sounds like they want us all to live in inner city communes.
Don’t they call them ghettos?


9 posted on 05/19/2008 11:55:24 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: RockinRight

Or in my case my office is about to move to a new location and Instead of a 23 mile commute each way it is about to became a 45 mile commute each way. It’ll be three gallons of gas a day for my commute, but car pooling some of the way may be an option.


10 posted on 05/19/2008 11:55:30 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: shrinkermd
... neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping. It’s the kind of neighborhood in which people don’t have to drive a lot, but it’s also a kind of neighborhood that barely exists in America, even in big metropolitan areas.

They're called public housing and we have lots of them. They're easy to find. Follow the sound of gunfire.

11 posted on 05/19/2008 11:56:06 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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And there are, as always in America, the issues of race and class. Despite the gentrification that has taken place in some inner cities, and the plunge in national crime rates to levels not seen in decades, it will be hard to shake the longstanding American association of higher-density living with poverty and personal danger.

You're looking too hard at this. For many of us, this:

is simply more appealing and desireable than this:

My wife and I actually live in a condo/townhome development and like it as a starter home, but the top pic is our eventual goal, not the bottom one.

12 posted on 05/19/2008 11:57:35 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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Dear NY Times dimwits,
Then I guess you better learn how to grow all your own food on those NY City rooftops, because we out here in the country are not going to waste precious fuel getting our organic produce to such an undeserving bunch!


13 posted on 05/19/2008 11:58:28 AM PDT by anonsquared
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That’s a starter home to me. In fact my wife and I live in one but it’s a townhome style.


14 posted on 05/19/2008 11:58:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: shrinkermd

Free people are very creative.

If the government would just leave us alone we’ll figure out 10-different ways to get around. All without government “help”.


15 posted on 05/19/2008 11:59:39 AM PDT by donna (Before they gave us McCain, they tried to give us Rudy.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Very true. I’m job hunting and realize that anything in a 40 mile radius is fair game. Furthermore, moving isn’t an option - first off we just bought our house, and secondly, my wife also has a job and her commute also has to be considered.


16 posted on 05/19/2008 12:00:32 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: shrinkermd
...Americans will face increasingly strong incentives to start living like Europeans — maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of our lives.

Sounds like he's looking forward to it.

17 posted on 05/19/2008 12:06:01 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: shrinkermd

three words..........DRILL IN ANWAR..he’s an idiot.


18 posted on 05/19/2008 12:06:51 PM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: RockinRight; shrinkermd
Public transit can work for some people, but it’s never going to work for all people.

Having spent most of my life in NYC, public transit is slow, smelly, too hot, too cold, too crowded, too rude, and too dangerous.

And now, as if the homeless puking and fouling subways and buses isn't enough, they're starting to find bedbugs on subway cars and buses.

19 posted on 05/19/2008 12:10:53 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: RockinRight
Very true. I’m job hunting and realize that anything in a 40 mile radius is fair game.

Looking back on my career I deeply regret thinking the same thing. All the lost hours, all the lost quality time that can never ne replaced. I wanted to work in a high wage area, and live in the country. Your situation may be different, but run the numbers carefully, and decide what you want to pay yourself for those uncompensated hours on the road.

At my retirement party, I said, "If I knew I was going to drive for a living, I would have joined the Teamsters and had better benefits.!" Everyone knew I meant it. It would have been cost-effective for me to take 20-30% less with a ten mile commute. I suppose it depends on what road or highway, but in my case it was true.

20 posted on 05/19/2008 12:12:24 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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