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Conservative Gloominess (Buck Up FReepers - It's not as bad as you think)
PajamasMedia ^ | 5/16/2008 | Roger Kimball

Posted on 05/19/2008 4:41:25 PM PDT by mojito

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I thought I'd post this. A bit of well-stated good cheer, for a change.
1 posted on 05/19/2008 4:41:25 PM PDT by mojito
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?Conservative Gloominess (Buck Up FReepers - It’s not as bad as you think)”

We have a “choice” between a Liberal with an R after his name or a Liberal with a D after his name. How exactly is it not as bad as I think?


2 posted on 05/19/2008 4:42:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: mojito

Here is better ‘good cheer’. Cheers

http://falconparty.com/


3 posted on 05/19/2008 4:43:06 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: mojito

until “none of the above” counts... PM can take a hike.


4 posted on 05/19/2008 4:43:35 PM PDT by xcamel (Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
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To: Grunthor

A good meal and a bottle of Scotch will make it all bearable. LOL!


5 posted on 05/19/2008 4:44:16 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: mojito

Losing is never pleasent, perhaps this election cycle will teach us all a very very good lesson.

As for the dhimmis, they win be acting Republican, as soon as the zanniness begins, it will be interesting to see the newbie Dhimmis ‘splain to the folks back home what the heck is going on in DC on their watch...


6 posted on 05/19/2008 4:47:39 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: mojito

Conservatives have nothing to fear but fear of incompetence itself.

Republicans are not losing Congressional elections because of the top of either ticket, it’s an R vs D contest and the R’s are drawing dead in 2008.

The best thing that Clinton did for Republicans was to elect a Republican congress for the first time in years, another Democrat will give Republicans that opportunity in 2010. Tell why they should be elected rather than why the other guy shouldn’t.

Cheer up 2010 is coming. Be ready.


7 posted on 05/19/2008 4:49:39 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: pissant
http://falconparty.com/

My new party!! :)

8 posted on 05/19/2008 4:52:53 PM PDT by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Coming Soon - a new CONSERVATIVE PARTY --- www.falconparty.com)
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To: EagleandLiberty

Hey. Might as well push a re-birth of Reaganism and see where it goes. I can’t think of too many better ways to honor our forefathers and our posterity.


9 posted on 05/19/2008 4:55:49 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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We have a “choice” between a Liberal with an R after his name or a Liberal with a D after his name.

No, we have a moderate with an R after his name. One who'll nominate JUSTICES that will UPHOLD the CONSTITUTION and keep the TAX CUTS. Then we have a SOCIALIST MUSLIM with a D after his name who'll give us BIG GOVERNMENT!!

I have to vote for the WOT - and McCain - THOU NOT PERFECT is my choice.

10 posted on 05/19/2008 4:57:29 PM PDT by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Coming Soon - a new CONSERVATIVE PARTY --- www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I believe the FALCON PARTY is where REAGANISM is now!!


11 posted on 05/19/2008 4:58:28 PM PDT by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Coming Soon - a new CONSERVATIVE PARTY --- www.falconparty.com)
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To: EagleandLiberty

Indeed. We changed addresses.


12 posted on 05/19/2008 5:01:41 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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"and keep the TAX CUTS"

You can't cut taxes unless you cut government. If you don't cut government all you do is pass the credit slips to our kids with interest.

13 posted on 05/19/2008 5:08:15 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: padre35
Losing is never pleasent, perhaps this election cycle will teach us all a very very good lesson.

If no one learned a lesson from our losing in 2006 when the rats took over congress then what makes you think losing in 2008 will be any different?

I will do all I can to see John McCain win in the general election and he will win.

14 posted on 05/19/2008 5:08:56 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: mojito

I see the future for conservatism that has several paths.

Conservatives, almost by definition, are less inclined to enjoy change unless change has an advocate who promises a better tomorrow. And I mean positive, Reaganesque change, not the reactionary, socialist liberal change promoted by Obama and Clinton.

This means a clear picture of what change is needed, and how to change in that direction. This is why on the fringes of the Republican party, we are starting to see more radical ideas, be they reasonable, like from Duncan Hunter, or less so, like from Ron Paul.

But what we need most of all, is to step back and see what the real problems are, the long-term, enormous problems that underlie our nation and perhaps the entire world.

One of these is more obvious today than it has been for a while. In short, it is the abuse of credit, not just by people and business, but by entire nations. So what should conservatives do to turn this situation around?

Things that are really big ideas. To start with, everybody has to control their spending to match their means:

1) A balanced budget amendment to the constitution, and tight restrictions on government debt.
2) Not just limitations on government growth, but real reductions in the size of government.
3) Restrictions on credit that prevent its issuance without close to matching collateral.
4) Replacing much of the credit industry with debit. It goes back to the truism that money should only be lent to those that do not need it.

Right now, the assumption is that if the credit market is controlled, enough to prevent wild excess, that there will be a tremendous shortfall of investment. But this is not entirely true. Uncontrolled credit is just a very easy way to obtain money, but it is not the only way.

Uncontrolled credit creates economic bubbles, going all the way back to the first Dutch tulip speculation craze. If you take away easy credit, it makes foolish speculation much harder, bubbles much rarer, and markets far more stable.

So those that would “suffer” most, are irresponsible speculators. Not a whole lot of sympathy out there for them. But for typical people, it would be the end of many “get rich quick” schemes promising double-digit returns even in a dull market.

Enormous trade deficits would also wind down. A lack of easy credit also means that unless we paid cash on the barrel head, we would no longer import huge amounts of products like oil and goods from China. It turn, the makers of such goods would have to return to the US, if they hoped to sell their goods here.

Much of the credit abuse in the world only exists because the US is involved. So if we got our own house in order, it would force reform around the world.

And this is just one thing conservatives could do. If we have a future candidate who can bring about such changes, we could all face a much brighter future than a terrible worldwide economic collapse, that seems to be our destiny today. Sooner or later.


15 posted on 05/19/2008 5:16:29 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ex-snook

Not necessarily true. Tax cuts mean more income into the federal treasury, not less. That being said, we need to shitcan 50% federal expenditures as a matter of principle and as a return to constitutionalism.


16 posted on 05/19/2008 5:16:58 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: BARLF

District by district, Conservatives have gotten lazy IMO BARLF, part of that is the scandals, maybe part of it is uninspiring candidates, maybe some fatigue as well.

2 years of Dhimmicrat control with a co-operative McCain in the White House will see some of the fires restoked, and I think that is a good thing.


17 posted on 05/19/2008 5:27:00 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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"Tax cuts mean more income into the federal treasury, not less"

Probably a temporary happening or taxes would be cut to zero for Treasury enrichment.

18 posted on 05/19/2008 5:27:37 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: mojito
Towards the end of his thoughtful new book Comeback: Conservatism that Can Win Again, David Frum gently takes issue with Russell Kirk’s invocation of “the permanent things.” “How few of those there really are!” Frum writes. “The fact of change is the great fact of human life,” he says, pleading with conservatives to “adapt” to change and retake the intellectual and political initiative.
1. Frum isn't a conservative. He is a right-liberal from a scion of Canadian Liberalism.
2. He gleefully wants a less conservative conservatism, which consists of being Ceahp liberal hawks.
I heard the smug bastard on the Laura Ingram show on Thurday. He suddenly supports border-enforcements as a political issue, after helping to defeat it for 7 years.
19 posted on 05/19/2008 5:30:16 PM PDT by rmlew (Down with the ersatz immanentization of the eschaton known as Globalism.)
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To: ex-snook

Not temporary, but there is a law of diminishing returns. Ask Art Laffer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Laffer


20 posted on 05/19/2008 5:32:21 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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