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31,000 scientists reject 'global warming' agenda
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 19, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/20/2008 3:13:33 AM PDT by Man50D

More than 31,000 scientists across the United States, including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields including atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties, have signed a petition rejecting "global warming," the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth's climate.

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate," the petition states. "Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

The Petition Project actually was launched nearly 10 years ago, when the first few thousand signatures were assembled. Then between 1999 and 2007, the list of signatures grew gradually without any special effort or campaign.

But now, a new effort has been conducted because of an "escalation of the claims of 'consensus,' release of the movie 'An Inconvenient Truth' by Mr. Al Gore, and related events," according to officials with the project.

"Mr. Gore's movie, asserting a 'consensus' and 'settled science' in agreement about human-caused global warming, conveyed the claims about human-caused global warming to ordinary movie goers and to public school children, to whom the film was widely distributed. Unfortunately, Mr. Gore's movie contains many very serious incorrect claims which no informed, honest scientist could endorse," said project spokesman and founder Art Robinson.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; justice; theamericanway; truth
He told WND the issue has nothing to do with energy itself, but everything to do with power, control and money, which the United Nations is seeking. He accused the U.N. of violating human rights in its campaign to ban much energy research, exploration and development.

The environment is one of many methods socialists are using to destroy our Representative Democracy and replace it with a strong centralized one world government that is anathema to our founding fathers intentions when they wrote the Constitution.
1 posted on 05/20/2008 3:13:33 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
That's an impressive list of what Big Media will call ‘Flat-landers’ and ‘Deniers’ and ‘Corp. Puppets’ and ‘Republicans’.
2 posted on 05/20/2008 3:22:03 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: theKid51

ping


3 posted on 05/20/2008 3:29:06 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: TexasCajun

indeed, the vast right-wing conspirators show themselves.


4 posted on 05/20/2008 3:32:45 AM PDT by gr8eman (Everybody is a rocket scientist...until launch day!)
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To: Man50D

it very very sad to see people of such intelligence on free republic to think that 31000 scientists is better then 31 from the UN. i mean cmon people.... /end sarc


5 posted on 05/20/2008 3:33:06 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: Irishguy
it very very sad to see people of such intelligence on free republic to think that 31000 scientists is better then 31 from the UN. i mean cmon people.... /end sarc

Apparently the 31 from the UN are super scientists much like super delegates in the Democrat party. Their vote counts more than the majority because the former is much smarter than the latter.
6 posted on 05/20/2008 3:38:02 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

31,000? Those must be the ones that don’t matter when determining consensus. Al Gore already has plenty of Hollywood actors and rock stars to confirm global warming, and many of them play scientists on TV.


7 posted on 05/20/2008 3:48:56 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Man50D

BAWHAHAHAH...super scientist, you should trademark that...


8 posted on 05/20/2008 4:00:35 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
31,000? Those must be the ones that don’t matter when determining consensus. Al Gore already has plenty of Hollywood actors and rock stars to confirm global warming, and many of them play scientists on TV.

More importantly, they (Gorbalists) have "computer modeling" to back them up.

9 posted on 05/20/2008 4:06:36 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Man50D
31,000? Obviously bought and paid for by BIG OIL.
10 posted on 05/20/2008 4:06:51 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Man50D
Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled.

Michael Crichton

11 posted on 05/20/2008 4:08:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Man50D
I pushed this to our news anchor this morning...he's a HUGE moonbat for the global warming theory...he's also totally fo gun control, higher taxes, abortion, and all the usual lib stuff. He does have to listen and use what I give him though so he's pretty fair.

He did get me on one point though. The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine is NOT affiliated with the NAS or a university. It apparently has only one paid member.

Given all that it shouldn't matter where the petition started but the qualifications of the people who signed it and if they stand behind it.

I'm trying to get a couple of the local signers to do a Sunday morning half hour show "Pittbsurgh Focus" with our anchor and see what happens. It could be interesting. It could be that they now don't support it or signed on a whim and that would mean our newsanchor would be one up on me. Something that doesn't usually happen.

prisoner6

12 posted on 05/20/2008 4:13:23 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: Man50D

Make it 31,001 when I next get to a mailbox.


13 posted on 05/20/2008 4:16:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Man50D; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 05/20/2008 4:18:21 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: prisoner6
Some references I left out of my reply...

http://www.oism.org/

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine

the listing directly above - Sourcewatch.org is VERY damning. I have to run but when I get the chance I want to source "sourcewatch.org.

And from Wikipedia FWIW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine

If this turns out to be a bust I'm gonna have to eat a LOT of Left Wing, Liberal, Moonbat crow...sigh>

prisoner6

15 posted on 05/20/2008 4:19:12 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

“computer modeling” that has been consistantly wrong!


16 posted on 05/20/2008 4:25:18 AM PDT by noname07718 (The Senate is based on consensus. “Consensus is the absence of leadership” - Lady M.Thatcher)
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To: Irishguy
BAWHAHAHAH...super scientist, you should trademark that...

The difference is, they are "super cereal".


17 posted on 05/20/2008 4:26:47 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
they (Gorbalists) have "computer modeling" to back them up.

Computer models schmodels. You cannot accurately simulate anything unless you include every single variable, and the butterfly effect renders that impossible due to the inherent turbulence in weather systems. Computers are only as smart as the people who program them, anyway...
18 posted on 05/20/2008 4:30:18 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Man50D

19 posted on 05/20/2008 4:34:44 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: prisoner6
If this turns out to be a bust I'm gonna have to eat a LOT of Left Wing, Liberal, Moonbat crow...

Well, I know of one scientist who I went to school with at U of Chicago. PhD in chemistry. I looked up his name ... John Pittman Hey (pronounced "high"), and he was on it. I know that he wouldn't buy into this malarkey. So at least one name is legit.

The U of Chicago is a troubled school, but in my frosh core curriculum course that touched on weather, the instructor (not a grad student), explained how the "greenhouse effect" (as it was called then) was logically impossible, and was a misnomer. Unfortunately, not being interested in the subject matter, I did not remember the reasoning past the end of the quarter.
20 posted on 05/20/2008 4:41:14 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (I often have to bring a lot of stuff with me.)
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To: Man50D

it is an end run around reason and

the u.s. constitution,

and a free market economy,

si.


21 posted on 05/20/2008 4:43:17 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Man50D

A quick check of the MSM for this....Results 0.
Fat chance, huh?


22 posted on 05/20/2008 4:48:56 AM PDT by WeldonsRight (Right and (apparently) wrong at the same time)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I don't listen to Rush much anymore, but one of his profoundest reminders is "follow the money".

Seems that Dupont came up with a miraculous replacement for it's older, patent-expiring Freon, when "scientists" claimed Freon was making holes in the ozone... and just as miraculously, they found Freon had no effect on the upper atmosphere! Hmmmmmm...

Of course, I am not a "scientist", have never stayed at HI Express, and have no way to know either way!


23 posted on 05/20/2008 4:51:09 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I guess my sarcasm wasn’t obvious enough. I thought the use of the term Gorbalists would do the trick but I see it didn’t. I was making fun of the use of computer modeling of weather systems, not supporting it.


24 posted on 05/20/2008 4:52:09 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Man50D

I’m on the list


25 posted on 05/20/2008 4:57:30 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Yes I got the sarcasm, I just wasn’t sarcastic enough in reacting to it.


26 posted on 05/20/2008 5:02:35 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: prisoner6

http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p21.htm

Educated at the California Institute of Technology and the University of California at San Diego, UCSD, Dr. Robinson served as a faculty member of UCSD until co-founding the Linus Pauling Institute of Science and Medicine with Linus Pauling in 1973. Beginning with their initial work together on general anesthesia and the structure of water at Caltech in 1961, Pauling and Robinson carried out published research on a wide variety of topics from nuclear physics to nutrition until 1978. They ceased work together in 1978 because of a disagreement between them on the effects of ascorbic acid on the growth rate of cancer in mice.

In 1981, Dr. Robinson, his wife, chemist Laurelee Robinson, Martin Kamen, and later joined by, R. Bruce Merrifield, cofounded the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.


Arthur Robinson has plenty of qualifications.

Why do you think that only something associated with a University does valid research ? Because the University takes government ie taxpayer money ?


27 posted on 05/20/2008 5:03:26 AM PDT by nicola_tesla ("Life is Tough... It's Worse When You're Stupid".... John Wayne)
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To: Man50D
Did anyone hear anything about the Petition Project announcement which was to have taken place at the National Press Club yesterday at 10:00AM? No mention here or in Google News.
28 posted on 05/20/2008 5:03:37 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Loyal Buckeye
31,000? Obviously bought and paid for by BIG OIL.

Yep. There's no doubt it's a conspiracy and Al Gore is our hero! ;O)
29 posted on 05/20/2008 5:07:01 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: TexasCajun
While I am not a believer in anthropomorphic global warming, this petition was circulated and was open to any person with a college degree at the bachelor of science level or higher, whether or not they had any interest, experience, or abilities in climate science or anything remotely related to global warming.

I reviewed the list from my state, and found the name of an orthodontist that I know, who has political aspirations of running for the U.S. Senate. He has no credible background in climatology.

When the list is pared down, there are only 154 signators who have backgrounds in atmospheric science or climatology out of the 31,000 total. Just because you have an advanced degree doesn't necessarily make you an expert in global warming. Conversely, I am sure there are some without any college degrees who have read everything written on the subject and have become, in essence, self-made experts in climatology and global warming.

30 posted on 05/20/2008 5:07:16 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: kidd
I’m on the list

Good for you! Troublemaker! ;O)
31 posted on 05/20/2008 5:09:50 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Oh crap!

Now we have to get our cows farting again?

Just when I taught them some manners.


32 posted on 05/20/2008 5:18:47 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: SC DOC
Just because you have an advanced degree doesn't necessarily make you an expert in global warming.

No, but there are many areas of science that have been brought into the global warming debate. One need not be a meteorologist or climatologist to comment, for incidence, on the effects of cosmic radiation on the upper atmosphere. Similarly, it wouldn't be appropriate for a meteorologist to comment on certain aspects of said cosmic radiation.

The subject of the atmosphere, and all the variables within it, are much too complex for any one scientific specialty to be able to accurately comment on the entire scope. Thus, it is broken down into specialties.

33 posted on 05/20/2008 5:30:33 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Man50D

If every scientist on God’s green Earth signed the petition it would not matter one bit as long as the media thinks otherwise. They lead this nation around by the nose. If you want to make yourself free do what I did - get rid of your TV. My whole life is better.


34 posted on 05/20/2008 5:34:46 AM PDT by Pookee (in but not of)
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To: prisoner6
the listing directly above - Sourcewatch.org is VERY damning. I have to run but when I get the chance I want to source "sourcewatch.org.

Not previously familiar with sourcewatch.org, so, just for fun, I checked the entry for "Center for Science in the Public Interest" to see if there might be some ideological bent operating here. CSPI, justly infamous for creating monthly scares over Chinese food, movie popcorn, and other common indulgences some years ago, really IS just a couple of freakazoids and a fax machine who play the media like a fiddle. The sourcewatch article, though brief, took CSPI at face value, with nary a critical note sounded.

So, I suspect that you may find there is no occasion for panic. Crow will not be on the menu tonight.

35 posted on 05/20/2008 5:37:21 AM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: SC DOC
When the list is pared down, there are only 154 signators who have backgrounds in atmospheric science or climatology out of the 31,000 total.

Please provide a link to the source.

36 posted on 05/20/2008 5:38:35 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
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To: SC DOC
While I am not a believer in anthropomorphic global warming, this petition was circulated and was open to any person with a college degree at the bachelor of science level or higher, whether or not they had any interest, experience, or abilities in climate science or anything remotely related to global warming.

And all of the Global Warming moonbat supporter "scientists" ARE climatologists?!?!?!

37 posted on 05/20/2008 5:50:33 AM PDT by jdsteel (proud member of "Mothers And Children Against Criminal Aliens")
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To: Smokin' Joe

Make that 31,002 when I can mail my petition.


38 posted on 05/20/2008 5:55:40 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: angkor
Did anyone hear anything about the Petition Project announcement which was to have taken place at the National Press Club yesterday at 10:00AM? No mention here or in Google News.

Media blackout.

39 posted on 05/20/2008 5:58:12 AM PDT by pjd
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To: Man50D
The global warming cultists will seek to suppress these dissenting views just like the earth centered universe crowd sought to suppress Galileo.
40 posted on 05/20/2008 5:58:21 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Man50D

Once I get on the list, I expect my check from Big Oil to arrive soon!!


41 posted on 05/20/2008 6:02:10 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: SC DOC
are only 154 signators who have backgrounds in atmospheric science or climatology...

At the risk of beating a dead horse - Many other fields such as Physics, Chemistry, geology, hydrodynamics, computer science, economics, anthropology,...all have something relevant to contribute.

42 posted on 05/20/2008 6:04:57 AM PDT by pjd
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To: Man50D

The Truth that Glbal Warming is a Fraud is starting to perculate to the surface. Will Gore call 31,000 Scientists who signed this petition loosers and deniers? or is Gore starting to sweat?


43 posted on 05/20/2008 6:05:14 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: CharacterCounts
Please provide a link to the source

Link

44 posted on 05/20/2008 6:11:42 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: SC DOC
The other interesting thing about this list of 31,000 scientists is that some of the most outspoken global warming scientists who have challenged anthropomorphic global warming, statistical models, and predictions of doom and gloom are conspicuously absent from the 31,000. These include names like:
Freeman Dyson
Edward Wegman
David Bromwich
Hendrik Tennekes
Christopher Landsea
Antonio Zichini
Zbigniew Jaworski
45 posted on 05/20/2008 6:32:37 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: prisoner6
So... The OISM is to us clear-headed scientists as the GOP is to us conservatives.

Years ago, they may have gotten things moving, but both are now irrelevant to the discussion in progress.

46 posted on 05/20/2008 6:43:51 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


47 posted on 05/23/2008 10:32:34 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obama supporters: Drink the Kool-Aid? Yes we can!)
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To: Man50D
Now we need thirty-one thousand politicians to say it's politically motivated
and maybe "just maybe", Al Gore will fly away into the sunset with
his millions from the con, and never bother humanity again.
His damage to freedom is worse then any crisis..
48 posted on 05/23/2008 10:52:19 PM PDT by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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