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History Will Redeem Bush
Real Clear Politics ^ | May 21, 2008 | By Ed Koch

Posted on 05/21/2008 5:22:55 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
His years have been marked by a left wing Bush-bashing compaign and the media is part of it.

I agree, History will mark him as one of our greatest Presidents. He took on the enemy....an enemy who for years laughed at Clinton's inaction. If it's not about "DEFENSE FIRST", WHAT IS IT ABOUT.

Anyone remember Bubba instituting new security after "THE FIRST HIT ON THE HOMELAND" IN 1993?

Anyone remember Daschel's wife lobbying AGAINST making airplanes more secure.

I'll always blame "THE CLINTONS" FOR 9-11.

21 posted on 05/21/2008 6:07:55 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The core of the criticism against the president has been the incessent drum beat from the dims and the msm that he stole the 2000 election, that he is dishonest and that he lies.

They hate him for defeating gore and they have never forgiven him. They hate him for his faith. They hate him because he shows unswerving loyalty. They have never hesitated to use false statements, innuendo and "manufactured facts" to characterize him in a negative light proving that a lie told often enough, becomes the truth.

There are some thing he did and does that I wish he would do differently, but I can say that about any president, including Reagan. The fact is, he is doing an impossibly tough job while I sit here second guessing and back seat driving with 20-20 hind sight.

I refuse to be one of those who was for him before I was against him. I voted for him twice, he is there because I helped put him there. The alternatives for these past 8 years have been unthinkable proving we could have done far worse.

22 posted on 05/21/2008 6:16:48 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Ramius

I’ll buy one of you bumper stickers.


23 posted on 05/21/2008 6:18:36 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

What they REALLY hate him for is not hating them back. The fact that he seems barely aware of their campaign really drives them nuts, IMHO.


24 posted on 05/21/2008 6:27:20 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Bush is so "unpopular" but he was reelected not long ago by these same Americans.

He will be vindicated not only by history but by the immediate horrors the left will inflict on us once Bush departs.

25 posted on 05/21/2008 6:27:52 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

The present is vindicating Bush on Iraq.


26 posted on 05/21/2008 6:29:34 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t think it will take that long to recognize how important George W. Bush has been to the United States, indeed, to the entire world, with his unwillingness to concede Israel, Afghanistan, Iraq, or any other country to the Islamic extremists.


27 posted on 05/21/2008 6:34:21 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: flowerplough
Mark Helprin disagrees (with the premise of the article):

To begin with, American columns should have cut through Baghdad three days after they began to roll, and exited three weeks later, leaving Saddam dead and the pliant Iraqi strongman who betrayed him—candidates would not have been hard to find—to keep the country harmless to the West or suffer the same quick take-down. Rather than being broken on the wheel of irreconcilable Muslim factions, the supple and intact American power would have shattered the Arabs' elation following September 11th, and by threatening their rule been able to discipline the various police states of the region into eliminating their terrorists. Far more efficient that way, without six and more murderous and unavailing years in which neither a single democracy has appeared, nor will one. (The surge is merely coincident with a change in Sunni strategy. Instead of watching the U.S. and Iran arm the Shia for a major sectarian war that our small force in Iraq cannot prevent, the Sunni choose to avail themselves of American arms while simultaneously removing the lunatic jihadists nipping at their heels.) Full essay

28 posted on 05/21/2008 6:35:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (I'll pray for celebrities as soon as they start praying for me!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I support Israel 100%. It is the only freedom and democracy in the are. Besides that I love Judaism. I know George Bush is a genius. Is he perfect? Maybe not. But he has the intestinal fortitude of a true leader.


29 posted on 05/21/2008 6:35:44 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: devane617
He has far more negatives than positives. He will take a seat behind Jimmy Carter.

I disagree. President Bush will leave office with the country much stronger than Carter left it, economically AND militarily.

30 posted on 05/21/2008 6:36:22 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: devane617

You are worng. Entitled to your opinion, however.


31 posted on 05/21/2008 6:36:38 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

IMO, History will be 2009. Every time I look at any of the three candidates for POTUS, I am already missing Pres. Bush.


32 posted on 05/21/2008 6:40:05 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Ramius

Great idea!


33 posted on 05/21/2008 6:40:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

History reflects more the beliefs of those who write it than the deeds of those who live it.


34 posted on 05/21/2008 6:46:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Revolting cat!

Monday morning quarterback. I just love all the “hindsight” military experts.


35 posted on 05/21/2008 6:56:48 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
He don't need redemption. Thank God for George W. Bush.
36 posted on 05/21/2008 7:04:59 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: flowerplough
I was blind to the long-term near-impossibility of force-feeding modern elections and representative government to fundamental Muslim tribals in Sandland.

When the people of Iraq were liberated they voted willingly under the threat of death in huge numbers.Nobody force fed anything to them. George Bush and the US military liberated them.

37 posted on 05/21/2008 7:05:29 PM PDT by adversarial (the pros and cons of voting for)
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When the people of Iraq were liberated they voted willingly under the threat of death in huge numbers.Nobody force fed anything to them. George Bush and the US military liberated them.

They're still tribals, they're still Muslims, and they're still in Sandland. Obama's promised cut-and-run will give 'em free reign to begin slicing each other into little chunks, and, given that chance, they quickly will so do.
38 posted on 05/21/2008 9:19:49 PM PDT by flowerplough (Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo?)
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To: flowerplough

Keep in mind that many people around the world had the exact same opinion of Japan and Korea following WWII.

Those orientals were completely incapable of democratic government. It ran counter to everything. It was never going to work.

Look at them today.

Point is, we ARE nation building. The alternative after 9/11 was to bomb them into rubble and then bomb the rubble. That might make them hate and fear us, and to many people, including many on Free Republic, that is fine if they hate us as long as they fear us.

That is the viewpoint the Nazis had, and we are NOT the Nazis. We ARE different. The USA has done more good for more people on the face of the earth than any other country in history. We should be proud of it. We could be pumping the oil in Iraq under armed guard and shipping it to our refineries, but that is not why we are there, contrary to the heartfelt lunatic beliefs of many on the left.

So, yeah. This is an experiment, and it is costing us huge amounts of treasure along with the blood of many of our finest people. It may eventually fail, we might then have more 9/11s, and we can then bomb the Middle East into rubble and make them fear us more than they hate us.

But if it succeeds, a seed may be planted. IF they can learn to live together in Iraq without the iron hand of a dictator like Saddam Hussein, and IF they can find a way to distribute fairly the oil wealth of the country to ALL the citizens, and IF a free market economy can take root and flourish, the countries in that part of the world are going to look at Iraq and wonder why it cannot be them.

I believe firmly in the concepts outlined in Natan Sharansky’s book “The Case For Democracy”, and if given a chance, I think it can be borne out in Iraq, not to mention Afghanistan. Naive? No, just that there is plenty of time for the alternative, and the fact that I DO believe in the concept of American Exceptionalism, I think it is our responsibility to try.


39 posted on 05/21/2008 10:15:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: rlmorel
it succeeds, a seed may be planted?

Seed already planted in South Korea. We kept tens of thousands of troops there for over five decades. We still have 25,000 Americans posted there. The Koreans assassinated, couped and even occasionally voted whilst we kept the Communist wolves from their door. Similar plan might work in Iraq, if McCain has the horsepower to pull it. Obama's surrender plan = bloodbath.
40 posted on 05/21/2008 10:28:15 PM PDT by flowerplough (Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo?)
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