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Obama backs off from pledge to talk with Iran (Did he LIE? Nooooooo...)
Guardian ^ | 5/22/08 | Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 05/21/2008 8:11:27 PM PDT by Libloather

Obama backs off from pledge to talk with Iran
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
The Guardian, Thursday May 22 2008

Barack Obama has begun to edge away from his offer to pursue talks with Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after being hammered by Republicans as an "appeaser".

Now on the cusp of securing the Democratic nomination, Obama yesterday continued to attack John McCain, his likely Republican opponent in November, over his hawkish foreign policy.

"He has spent his last week describing his foreign policy as who he won't talk to," Obama told a rally in Florida yesterday.

After Tuesday's primaries, in which Obama lost badly to Hillary Clinton in Kentucky but won well in Oregon, he is now just 65 delegates away from the Democratic nomination.

But with the November election in his sights, Obama backed away from his promise last year to meet Ahmadinejad without preconditions during his first year in the White House.

His campaign has stopped mentioning Ahmadinejad by name, and noting that there must be "preparations" for such an encounter.

"He wants to talk to the Iranian leadership," Bill Richardson, the New Mexico governor and Obama supporter told Fox television yesterday. "But he wants diplomatic preparation before doing that."

On Tuesday, Obama's foreign policy adviser, Susan Rice, told CNN that he did not necessarily mean he would meet Ahmadinejad when he offered to open talks with Iran. "He hasn't named who that leader will be," she said. "It may, in fact be that by the middle of next year, Ahmadinejad is long gone."

**SNIP**

Obama's three-day tour of Florida followed Tuesday's primaries.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; iran; lie; obama
A pro-war Hussein Obomber? Go figure.
1 posted on 05/21/2008 8:11:27 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Well, now we know exactly where he stands. He stands for change and hope.


2 posted on 05/21/2008 8:15:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: Libloather

Empty suit.

3 posted on 05/21/2008 8:22:36 PM PDT by A message
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To: popdonnelly; MurryMom
He stands for change and hope.

Does that mean he's changing and hoping?

4 posted on 05/21/2008 8:22:39 PM PDT by Libloather (May is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather

I’m sure MSNBC will be all over this....


5 posted on 05/21/2008 8:23:40 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Libloather

thats the change he’s talking about

he’ll change to whatever is expedient at the moment

a perfect politician


6 posted on 05/21/2008 8:26:20 PM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: Libloather

Now, which day did he “back down?”

I think I have heard him state that he would talk with them and that he wouldn’t talk with them(and that he has never said such a thing) multiple times this week.


7 posted on 05/21/2008 8:35:15 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: popdonnelly

“Well, now we know exactly where he stands. He stands for change and hope.”

Change (when necessary and politically expedient)and Hope (for the millions of ignorant, guilty and pc-fearful votes).


8 posted on 05/21/2008 8:50:23 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: popdonnelly

Okay folks. I’m starting here with something significant on Obama’s red ties throughout his life.

Go to www.usasurvival.org and read the two reports on communism in Hawaii and Chicago which include people who have had direct influence on Obama throughout his life.

It will explain a lot about Obama’s strange friends (Young, Palmer, Ayers/Dohrn, Davis, etc). and why his programs have a Marxist tinge to them.

Read for yourself and then make your own judgments on the value of these reports.


9 posted on 05/21/2008 8:52:00 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Libloather

“He hasn’t named who that leader will be,” she said. “It may, in fact be that by the middle of next year, Ahmadinejad is long gone.”

And just HOW does he think that “may” come about - by magic??? He gets lamer by the day - is the public seeing this yet?


10 posted on 05/21/2008 8:54:30 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Libloather
[emphasis added]

from CNN: Clinton, Obama in war of words over 'rogue leaders'
July 25, 2007
The sparring began Monday at the CNN/YouTube debate, in which a viewer asked candidates if they would be willing to meet with leaders of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea -- whom the United States has called rogue leaders.

Obama said he would, adding "it is a disgrace that we have not spoken to them." He added: "The notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them -- which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration -- is ridiculous."


from NY Times: Obama Envisions New Iran Approach
November 2, 2007
Making clear that he planned to talk to Iran without preconditions, Mr. Obama emphasized further that “changes in behavior” by Iran could possibly be rewarded with membership in the World Trade Organization, other economic benefits and security guarantees.

“We are willing to talk about certain assurances in the context of them showing some good faith,” he said in the interview at his campaign headquarters here. “I think it is important for us to send a signal that we are not hellbent on regime change, just for the sake of regime change, but expect changes in behavior. And there are both carrots and there are sticks available to them for those changes in behavior.”


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Obama should learn to google. What is said is there, regardless of how much spin and denial he now gives.
11 posted on 05/21/2008 8:55:12 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Libloather
The magic of the American political process at work.

Coming soon: Obambi the Hawk!

12 posted on 05/21/2008 8:59:52 PM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: Tex Pete

“He hasn’t named who that leader will be,” she said. “It may, in fact be that by the middle of next year, Ahmadinejad is long gone.”

The clips I’ve been seeing the last coupla days are of two different speeches, one in which he said Iran was small, militarily weak, relatively insignificant and not a serious threat, vs. a quite recent one in which he sternly stated that “Iran is a very serious threat”.

Puleeeeez.


13 posted on 05/21/2008 9:01:01 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: llandres

First Pelosi reversed herself and now Obama. Something is up, and they have both been briefed.


14 posted on 05/21/2008 9:03:15 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: A message

All politicians are empty suits to some extent. He’s just emptier than most.

Go McCain!!!
[because we hafta]


15 posted on 05/21/2008 9:04:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Libloather
Republicans should just shut up until the Democrat convention. Let Obama keep saying stupid things about foreign policy. Then, at the right time, let go with all barrels.

By letting this Bambi "back off" this early in the race, his stupid statements will be forgotten by November. "Old news..."

16 posted on 05/21/2008 9:08:11 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Publius

Oh...something is up for sure. The scoop is that these two are totally inexperienced in FP matters and make jackasses out of themselves whenever they speak.
I say..”Hand that big-eared goon the microphone, please!”.


17 posted on 05/21/2008 9:14:06 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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To: Flavius

“Obama said he would, adding “it is a disgrace that we have not spoken to them.” (from a posting further down)

I get so disgusted hearing this (ridiculous) attack repeated ad nauseum by the Dems/BHO (and most people don’t read or learn enough to know differently).

Our country HAS, for a long time, been speaking to Iran (and most other rogue nations), through proper channels, at appropriate levels.

So please tell me - are the (hateful) libs really THAT stupid, or are they just hoping the public is???


18 posted on 05/21/2008 9:32:18 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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Well, that makes all the difference.

Obama figures the mullahs will have a change of heart and the next guy they put in power will only want to kill 90 of the jews.


19 posted on 05/21/2008 9:33:37 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Publius

“First Pelosi reversed herself and now Obama. Something is up, and they have both been briefed.”

I dunno - just saw Pelosi doing another ridiculous press conference last night on cspan about their “productive” visits in the middle east, wielding her imagined power. As for BHO - he’s lightning-fast to adapt to the climate as needed.

I wish she’d reverse herself out of existence.


20 posted on 05/21/2008 9:40:32 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Chaguito

“Republicans should just shut up until the Democrat convention. Let Obama keep saying stupid things about foreign policy.”

I disagree with the first part, agree with the second - the Republicans have been, thus far, pretty low-key and non-offensive (in large part because as long as the Dem fight goes on, and it will until Aug., they’re doing our dirty work for us:-)) BUT also, one of the key rules of effective marketing/advertising is repetition, repetition, repetition. The messages need to be put out there now and continued all the way to November.


21 posted on 05/21/2008 9:49:50 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: BunnySlippers

“All politicians are empty suits to some extent. He’s just emptier than most.”

Would that that were true. No, he’s Full...much too full.


22 posted on 05/21/2008 9:51:48 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Libloather

The number of lies, contradictions and gaffs by B.Husein O. are now almost too numerous to mention. If he were a Republican he would have had his passport pulled by the MSM a long time ago.


23 posted on 05/21/2008 9:54:15 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Chaguito

“By letting this Bambi “back off” this early in the race, his stupid statements will be forgotten by November. “Old news...”

you’re exactly right. btw, when I posted while ago, I responded to the quote you included from a prior poster, not to you, with whom I agree.


24 posted on 05/21/2008 9:55:00 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Libloather

I want this arrogant SOB out of this race. The most liberal senator in recent history(see his voting record)...and he gets the masses to go to his rallies (if you believe the AP photo from his last rally)??? This guy is like Hitler...the propaganda machine is in full spin, and everyone seems to be buying his load of fertilizer....

My fellow conservatives, we are in a quandary...I have, for the longest time, believed that we should always try to be ‘civil’ and try and appease our fellow countrymen when it comes to differences in ideology on attaining a common goal.

But the time has now come to be...what is a civil word to say here?...wait, there is no civil word any more, because our fellow liberal radicals have hijacked the entire system and there is no more common goal, because the liberal radicals have begun to destroy any civilized precedent. The time has come to be ASSHOLES !!!! The time has come to be A PAIN IN THE ASS!!! The time has come to be PRICKS!!! The time has come to combat this assault on our core conservative principles.

GOD DAMMIT, I AM TIRED OF THIS SHIT!!! NO MORE APOLOGIES FOR THE ARROGANT DISREGARD FOR WHAT IS RIGHT...AN ASSAULT ON OUR UNBORN CHILDREN?? AN ASSAULT ON OUR CHOICE ON HOW WE FUEL OUR HOMES AND VEHICLES? AN ASSAULT ON WHAT WE DECIDE IS RIGHT TO EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN?

THIS UPCOMING ELECTION IS A NOT A CHOICE ANYMORE...WE HAVE NOW BEEN FORCED TO DECIDE WHAT IS WRONG (MCCAIN), EVEN MORE WRONG (CLINTON), AND THE WORST POSSIBLE CHOICE (OBAMA)...

I HOLD EVERY ONE OF YOU SO CALLED ‘CONSERVATIVES’ WHO WANTED TO ‘REACH ACROSS THE ISLE’ RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DILEMMA WE NOW FACE. BECAUSE OF YOU, WE ARE NOW GOING TO BE MANDATED WITH SO MANY F*CKING ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES ON OUR CORE FREEDOMS THAT MY GRANDCHILDREN (WHO ARE NOT EVEN BORN YET) ARE GOING TO BE BURDENED WITH YOUR ILL CONCEIVED ‘GOOD-WILL’ FOR MAN-KIND UNTIL THEY ARE OF A RIPE OLD AGE...I CURSE YOU APPEASERS FOR THIS TUMOR YOU HAVE PLACED UPON THEIR FUTURE EXISTENCE...I ONLY HOPE THAT MY GRANDCHILDREN HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO KICK YOUR FRIGGIN’ APPEASEMENT PRINCIPLES INTO THE NEXT GOD FORSAKEN UNIVERSE...

I cringe at the state of our future republic. If I get banned from this site for my outburst and language used to express my strong opinion, then so be it. Let it be known that my sentiment is not as extreme as you may think, and that a multitude of others share my disbelief in this assault on our bedrock of conservative principles...a revolution will be forthcoming if a hard stance is not taken- I GUARANTEE IT.


25 posted on 05/21/2008 10:27:07 PM PDT by dave k (Unplug the spin machine...)
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To: Libloather
When caught by his own voice; he just adds or substitutes another word for a 'redo'. If there is confusion - it is due to willfull and misleading interpretation of 'context'. It is a finesse of the lie; and he gets away with it; because he can. . .so enabled, of course, by the rest of the Leftist megolith from/of/by which he speaks.

Obama skilfully scores with endless and new translations that cover his last mistake. He impresses only the gullible; which, by necessisty, is his Constitutency.

Obama's MO is a terror of it's own.

26 posted on 05/22/2008 2:07:43 AM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: dave k

Dave k,

I understand where you are coming from. I hear your anger and frustration. Unfortunantly unlike some other conservatives, I believe Barak Hussein Obama is electable.

The solution I see is to involve ourselves at the grass roots level in efforts to elect core conservatives to Congress. I ceased giving my money to the RNC and with each beg letter I get, I send then a letter back telling them why they won’t get my hard earned dollars. Maybe one day the Country Club Republican Controlled Party will stop tossing those letters in the trash and actually read them.

At one time the Republican Party was a home for my conservative beliefs and values. It isn’t any longer. No matter how they re-wrap liberalism and call it conservatism, it still smells and looks like a pile left on my doorstep.


27 posted on 05/22/2008 2:22:55 AM PDT by navymom1 (I support conservatives and their mission.)
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To: Libloather
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28 posted on 05/22/2008 2:37:04 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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