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Eastwood Rejects Lee's Criticism of His WW2 Films
reuters.com ^ | May 23, 2008

Posted on 05/24/2008 1:26:22 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

BERLIN (Reuters Life!) - Veteran actor and director Clint Eastwood rejected criticism from fellow U.S. director Spike Lee that his films "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters from Iwo Jima" failed to recognize the role of African-American soldiers.

In an interview with Germany's Focus magazine, Eastwood said it was nonsense to suggest he had "erased the role of black GIs from history". He said there were no Afro-Americans in those films because there were no Afro-American soldiers involved.

"Does he know anything about American history?" Eastwood told Focus when asked about Lee's criticism. "The U.S. military was segregated til the Korean War, and the blacks in World War Two were totally segregated. The only black battalion on Iwo Jima was a small munitions supply unit that came to the beach.

"The story was about the men who raised the flag and we can't make them black if they were not there. So tell him: Why don't you go back and study your history and stop mouthing off!"

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: hollywood; makemyday; race; racebaiting; wwii
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1 posted on 05/24/2008 1:26:23 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ha! Good for Clint. Its about time somebody told Lee off.


2 posted on 05/24/2008 1:28:43 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Does he know anything about American history?" Eastwood told Focus when asked about Lee's criticism.

Rhetorical question, I'm sure. Spike knows nothing about anothing other than how to make bad movies and play the race card.

3 posted on 05/24/2008 1:30:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obviously Clint Eastwood is a racist. < /liberal>


4 posted on 05/24/2008 1:30:28 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Eaker; humblegunner; Allegra; thackney

Go Clint.


5 posted on 05/24/2008 1:33:49 PM PDT by TheMom (My baby will graduate high school in May - send money for college!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

OK,... now Spike Lee is really in Trouble. He’s attacking the John Wayne.

“Very few Hollywood films deal with black soldiers,” Lee said. “For the most part, if you look at the history of Hollywood cinema they haven’t dealt with anybody other than white Americans. If you think Hollywood and World War Two, you think John Wayne — the great white male that saved the world.”


6 posted on 05/24/2008 1:34:16 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Popcorn.
Where’s my popcorn?!
HAS ANYONE SEEN MY POPCORN!!!!!!!?

can’t - find - my - POPCORN!!!!!!!?


7 posted on 05/24/2008 1:34:16 PM PDT by uptoolate (The Republican fear of Liberalism is why we are in this predicament)
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To: uptoolate

8 posted on 05/24/2008 1:37:09 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
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To: TheMom
Why don't you go back and study your history and stop mouthing off!"

That would solve a lot of problems if people would do it.

9 posted on 05/24/2008 1:39:05 PM PDT by humblegunner (Che is Gay)
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To: SandRat

“If you think Hollywood and World War Two, you think John Wayne — the great white male that saved the world.””

oooo...that’s bordering on blasphemy....Dang! Some people hate us having any hero’s don’t they?


10 posted on 05/24/2008 1:39:11 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Does he know anything about American history?"

Yeah, Lee only knows the American history "he" wants to portray.

Besides the story had nothing to do with race, that's why Lee is such an ignoranamous. In Lee's wrapped mind I guess you have to "recognize" race in every movie.

11 posted on 05/24/2008 1:39:16 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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To: SandRat

I’m watching Flags of our fathers tonite


12 posted on 05/24/2008 1:40:09 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The supposed Iwo Jima Blacks were building that great Alaskan highway. And they did a terrific job of it too.
13 posted on 05/24/2008 1:40:25 PM PDT by fish hawk (Silence is often misinterpreted but never misquoted.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY


right turn Clyde ...
14 posted on 05/24/2008 1:41:11 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gotta love Clint Eastwood.


15 posted on 05/24/2008 1:41:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The only black battalion on Iwo Jima was a small munitions supply unit that came to the beach. .................... That shows Clintwood did his research. Ira Hays wasn’t white but he was there as one of the flag raisers, and that is what the whole movie was about. This is not to say there were no blacks, its just that they were there as CSS troops and were not in the offensive operation as being front line troops. They were however involved in sporadic rear enemy remnant action. Those actions had nothing to do with the actual flag raising unless you consider the passing of ammo to the troops at the beach. ??


16 posted on 05/24/2008 1:43:09 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Where have all our Great Leaders gone? Certainly there must be one out there?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Has Spike Lee ever made a film that was not almost totally black? (except for the white bad guys) He is the “racist”, it looks like to me.
17 posted on 05/24/2008 1:44:12 PM PDT by fish hawk (Silence is often misinterpreted but never misquoted.)
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To: AuntB
Yep.

Even worse,

Do you know how much Spike has given to preserving the history of the 92nd Inf Div http://www.swabuffalosoldiers.org/index.html or any other prominent national Black organization or figure?

Not one moment!

Not one word!

Not one penny!!!

Spike is all mouth and no Moxie.

18 posted on 05/24/2008 1:44:49 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Does he know anything about American history?" Eastwood told Focus when asked about Lee's criticism. "The U.S. military was segregated til the Korean War, and the blacks in World War Two were totally segregated........

Memo To Spike Lee:
Typical Idiot!
Click the Pic

19 posted on 05/24/2008 1:46:57 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lee remains just another loathsome anti-Semite and America-hater.


20 posted on 05/24/2008 1:47:55 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So what’s stopping Spike from making his own movie?


21 posted on 05/24/2008 1:48:28 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: humblegunner
Why don't you go back and study your history and stop mouthing off!"

That would solve a lot of problems if people would do it.

... Not if it's going to be taught the way I see my younger colleagues teaching it today. In 30 years the flag on Suribachi will have been raised by a black, transgendered, and differently abled lesbian.

22 posted on 05/24/2008 1:48:46 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: SandRat
you think John Wayne — the great white male that saved the world.”

I am gonna guess Obama is Spike's boy too. Some of these POS would vote for a pederast if their skin color matched.

23 posted on 05/24/2008 1:49:37 PM PDT by Eaker (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to have TheMom kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Slightly Off Topic....

Anyone on this thread a historian of Iwo Jima or a Pacific War expert?

In the months preceding the Iwo invasion, the Japanese used at least 10,000 Korean “conscripts” to help dig the cave and tunnel network on the island.

Historically, that seems to be the end of the story.

Anyone here know how the Koreans were treated, or how many Koreans died, or where they went after Iwo, or what ultimately happened to them?

24 posted on 05/24/2008 1:49:56 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

http://www.mpma28.com/page/page/2271596.htm


25 posted on 05/24/2008 1:51:48 PM PDT by radar101
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The movie was a weak version of the book................. but adding black troops to it would have been ridiculous, and farcical.


26 posted on 05/24/2008 1:52:33 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: xkaydet65
... Not if it's going to be taught the way I see my younger colleagues teaching it today. In 30 years the flag on Suribachi will have been raised by a black, transgendered, and differently abled lesbian.

You Got That Right!
Sad to say.

27 posted on 05/24/2008 1:55:22 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Spike has a movie coming out and needs to gin up some “buzz”. Since Clint is (imho) the finest living actor and film maker in the world I’d think he would shrug this off or have an associate respond. Spike must have hit a nerve so Clint took the bait and shot back regardless that it plays into Spike’s hands.


28 posted on 05/24/2008 2:02:19 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: zeestephen
"Anyone here know how the Koreans were treated, or how many Koreans died, or where they went after Iwo, or what ultimately happened to them?"

These are just guesses, mind you, but considering that the Koreans were Jap slaves, I'd answer your questions as follows:
a) very poorly;
b) most of them; and
c) the Japs put uniforms on them and forced them to run at the Americans with empty rifles...

29 posted on 05/24/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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THE RIGHT TO FIGHT: African-American Marines in World War II
by Bernard C. Nalty

Peleliu and Iwo Jima

When the 1st Marine Division, on 15 September 1944, attacked the heavily defended island of Peleliu in the Palau group, the 16th Field Depot supported the assault troops. The field depot included two African-American units, the 11th Marine Depot Company and the 7th Marine Ammunition Company. The 11th Marine Depot Company responded beyond the call of duty and paid the price, 17 wounded, the highest casualty rate of any company of African-American Marines during the entire war. Major General William H. Rupertus, who commanded the 1st Marine Division, sent identical letters of commendation to the commanders of both companies, praising the black Marines for their "whole hearted cooperation and untiring efforts" which "demonstrated in every respect" that they "appreciate the privilege of wearing a Marine uniform and serving with Marines in combat."

Black combat support units also took part in the assault on Iwo Jima, where, as at Peleliu, their presence confounded the policy of segregation. Because of the random intermingling of white and black units, an African-American Marine, carrying a box of supplies, dived into a shell hole occupied by white Marines, one of whom gave him a cigarette before he scrambled out with his load and ran forward. Here, too, black stewards and members of the depot and ammunition companies came to the aid of the wounded. A white Marine, Robert F. Graf, who lay in a tent awaiting evacuation for further medical treatment, remembered that: "Two black Marines . . . ever so gently . . . placed me on a stretcher and carried me outside to a waiting DUKW."

At Iwo Jima, the 8th Marine Ammunition Company and the 33d, 34th, and 36th Marine Depot Companies served as part of the shore party of the V Amphibious Corps. Elements of the ammunition company and the 36th Depot Company landed on D-Day, 19 February 1945, and within three days all the units were ashore, braving Japanese fire as they struggled in the volcanic sand to unload and stockpile ammunition and other supplies, and move the cargo inland. Eleven black enlisted Marines and one of the white officers were wounded, two of the enlisted men fatally.

30 posted on 05/24/2008 2:09:56 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: radar101

Great link! What a wonderful story of a group of true patriots.


31 posted on 05/24/2008 2:10:28 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lee should get a copy of 1952’s “Red Ball Express” which featured numerous black actors as army drivers and mechanics including a twentyfive year old Sidney Poitier.

But really, this isn’t about anything other than publicity for Lee and his next movie.


32 posted on 05/24/2008 2:12:56 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles

Spike Lee sees the world through brown tinted glasses. He has no idea how to perceive objective reality.


33 posted on 05/24/2008 2:16:54 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Obama's issues would be better resolved in a psychotherapists office, than in the Oval Office))))
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I believe they were officially called “stevedores”...


34 posted on 05/24/2008 2:20:39 PM PDT by johnny7 (Don't mess with my tag-lines!)
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To: AuntB

“Dang! Some people hate us having any hero’s don’t they?”

Only if he’s white.


35 posted on 05/24/2008 2:25:13 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why aren’t there any Repulican Senator’s willing to speak that plainly to to the dingbats is the left wing?

Oh...I know....lack of material...../sarc.


36 posted on 05/24/2008 2:27:58 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

LOL. Don’t mess with Clint!


37 posted on 05/24/2008 2:28:58 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If you see his wife on the red carpet, she’s wearing a blonde wig. Dreamin’ Spikee!


38 posted on 05/24/2008 2:30:05 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: LibFreeOrDie
So what’s stopping Spike from making his own movie?

I can see it now. I bunch of black hoodlum gangbangers listening to rap music, shooting guns and yelling: "TAKE DAT MOFO!! TAKE DAT MOFO!!! YEA!! MOFO!!!" Hollywood awards him an Oscar for "Best Script".

39 posted on 05/24/2008 2:33:46 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
What is Spike talking about? How about these:

A scene from "Full Metal Jacket", Kubrick's war epic.

Cuba Gooding Jr. as a Navy Diver in a starring role.

And many many more...

Lee has become tiresome. He needs to go back to making movies about Brooklyn and STFU.

40 posted on 05/24/2008 2:35:17 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I thought he was referring to Kelly’s Heroes.


41 posted on 05/24/2008 2:44:53 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Does he know anything about American history?”

He probably knows what is ebing passed off as “American History” in public school classrooms today.


42 posted on 05/24/2008 2:49:31 PM PDT by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When (Spike Lee) aka the “poster boy for bigotry” opens his yap, I simply laugh and move on. He’s a joke. Mr. Eastwood doesn’t owe him an explanation or apology. Read your history books, Mr. Lee. That’s the “right thing” to do.


43 posted on 05/24/2008 2:52:28 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: Jack Black
Dirty Dozen (1967)

Jim Brown played "Robert Jefferson"


44 posted on 05/24/2008 2:53:35 PM PDT by ktime
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To: zeestephen
http://www.counterpunch.org/reed02022006.html

In the years after 1939, the historians calculate, the Korean numbers in Japan swelled to over a million -- their figure is 1,120,000 -- although Tokyo's official government number is only 724,287. The miners' task was to descend into difficult seams to dig coal shipped exclusively for military use......Most workers suffered malnutrition, as they received only a handful of rice a month supplemented by inferior cereals. No meat was provided, for what is a more carnivorous people than the Japanese, who to this day prefer fish

45 posted on 05/24/2008 2:56:58 PM PDT by Bommer (There's an (R) next to his name! I must trash my principles & beliefs and vote for the (R)!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Eastwood Rejects Lee’s Criticism of His WW2 Films...

just wait until b. HUSSEIN is POTUS.....the blacks single handidly will have won the war while the shiftless whites were too busy trying to go after da loose ho’s!!!!


46 posted on 05/24/2008 2:57:42 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: ktime
Let's not forget a little movie called "Glory (1989)"

Spike Lee is a racist ass who exposed his lack of education.

Denzel Washington as "Pvt Trip".


47 posted on 05/24/2008 2:58:46 PM PDT by ktime
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To: Jack Black

Uh, the top pick is from “Apocalypse Now”

And, for bonus points, name the actor.


48 posted on 05/24/2008 3:01:18 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: ktime

One of the finest war movies EVER MADE.

Very sobering.


49 posted on 05/24/2008 3:01:56 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Bringbackthedraft
During World War II, the only prominent blacks involved in combat were supply battalions operating just behind the front line of advancing American troops on the ground and the famous all-black 332nd Fighter Group. It wasn't until President Truman integrated the military that blacks became involved directly in combat, starting with the Korean War.

In short, Mr. Lee, have you really read up on your history?

50 posted on 05/24/2008 3:02:43 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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