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..When you got to choose.....everyway you look at it you lose (Remembering 1968)
5/26/08 | Self

Posted on 05/26/2008 5:43:37 AM PDT by Nextrush

I sat in the same kitchen this morning and listened to the same song I heard on the radio every morning in late May and early June of 1968.

I knew nothing about a movie called "The Graduate" back then but my eight year old mind easily comprehended the common phrases Paul Simon put into the song.

Those lyrics were drummed into me:

"Jesus loves you more than you will know....

"God Bless You please Mrs. Robinson, heaven holds a place for those who pray......

"Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you..."

Of all those lyrics from the number one song at this time 40 years ago, these seem so relevant to now....

"Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon.....going to the candidates debate....laugh about it, shout about it, when you go to choose....everyway you look at it you lose..."

Those lyrics can strike a chord even in the times we live in now.....

They say one of the keys to a hit song is words that are common phrases the audience relates to....

"Mrs. Robinson" did just that 40 years ago today.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1968; barackobama; hillaryclinton; johnmccain
Remembering Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson," the number one song 40 years ago today.
1 posted on 05/26/2008 5:43:38 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

....laugh about it, shout about it, when you go to choose....everyway you look at it you lose...”

Ain’t that the truth for this election cycle!


2 posted on 05/26/2008 5:55:59 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: Nextrush

Damn has it been that long? I was 15 so now I feel old.


3 posted on 05/26/2008 6:15:09 AM PDT by carjic (McCain is worse than "Broken Glass"!!!)
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To: Nextrush
I was going to reference Crosby, Stills & Nash's “Chicago”...mostly because I thought it was so awesome that during the live performance on “4 Way Street” the band opened it by saying “This one's for you, Mayor Daley!” Even as kids, we hated the Daley machine., and because I thought it (the song) was about the riots. But, it wasn't. It was about the Chicago Seven trial (the refrain- “won't you please come to Chicago just to sing” was actually one band mate (Nash?)asking the others to come and help support Bobby Seale.)

For the “youngers” in the audience, The Chicago Seven were the people who were prosecuted as the ringleaders of the riots.

I remember watching the riots on TV and thinking, huh, more riots. Why don't the pigs just leave em alone? I was 11 at the time, and the previous summer, both my town and Detroit had gone thru horrid rioting. I guess I was just glad I didn't live in Chicago.

4 posted on 05/26/2008 6:23:20 AM PDT by blu (Last one out of Michigan, please turn off the lights.)
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To: snippy_about_it
My favorite bumper-sticker:

"Don't vote -- it only encourages them."

5 posted on 05/26/2008 6:28:22 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Nextrush
Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you...

By early May and June of 1968, the nation's eyes were turned to pitcher Don Drysdale of the Los Angeles Dodgers, who was shutting out opposing teams, one after another.

6 posted on 05/26/2008 6:34:31 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: snippy_about_it

7 posted on 05/26/2008 7:00:14 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: Nextrush
Here's the best analysis of this song I could find. Spot on. You might not like it, but this is what it was about, as was the movie.

This song is about the state of the nation in the late 60's. Ms. Robinson is an archetype of the generation that could no longer uphold the "perfectness" of the '50s no matter how good their intentions. (hence why Jesus loves you, there were lots of wrongs committed with the best of intentions) The entire older generation of the 60's was in a sort of institution, desperately trying to maintain an unmaintainable false image. Hide it from the kids, they'll rip off the covers and expose everything. Government is not helping, anyway you lose. Also, an excellent note from the movie: Notice how after they "succeeded" in toppling the establishment's expectations they sat in the back of the bus looking like they had no clue about what to do next? That was 60's youth, and that conflict with one side wrong and the other side confused and directionless is what this song is about.

8 posted on 05/26/2008 7:11:55 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: carjic
Damn has it been that long? I was 15 so now I feel old.

I'm right there with you on feeling old -- I was 13 that summer and any way I look at the electoral scene (then & now), I lose.

9 posted on 05/26/2008 7:23:26 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Fiji Hill
By early May and June of 1968, the nation's eyes were turned to pitcher Don Drysdale of the Los Angeles Dodgers, who was shutting out opposing teams, one after another.

Interesting you bring that up. That very same year, the OTHER (and arguably, slightly better) intimidator, Bob Gibson, was having the greatest pitching season I have ever witnessed. Throughout June and July, in 99 IP, he gave up exactly 2 runs -- one on a passed ball, the other on a barely-fair-ball bloop double. W/o those two weird moments, he had TEN shutouts. He went into August with an ERA under 1.0. Boy, those two righties were on fire that year. I think they lowered the mound because of it.

10 posted on 05/26/2008 7:31:50 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great...(until it happens to YOU).)
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To: Migraine

I was at the game in Chavez Ravine on May 31, 1968, at which Drysdale tied the record for shutouts in a game against the San Francisco Giants. The primary election was a few days away, and upon entering the stadium, a Democratic campaign worker asked, “do you want to vote for Senator [Robert] Kennedy?” I replied, “no, I don’t.”

The most dramatic moment came late in the game when San Francisco loaded the bases and a batter named Dick Dietz stepped up to the plate. Drysdale hit him with a pitch, but the umpire ruled that Dietz had leaned into it. The San Francisco manager was so angry that he was thrown out of the game.

Drysdale, of course, went on to win.


11 posted on 05/26/2008 8:11:47 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Nextrush

We can but hope that Denver will be a disharmonic convergence, in which every kook, every foul Moonbat, and every troubled radical ever encouraged by that party will come out of their dark and dank holes to go to that Mecca of Mayhem, as the bitter fruits of that twisted tree.

And then Hillary steals the convention.

At which point, the mixed metaphors reach critical mass.


12 posted on 05/26/2008 9:31:04 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Hey guys, don't forget that the great convict scammer Denny McLain won thirty games for the world champion Tigers in 1968. The great Bob Gibson lost game seven of the series to Mickey Lolich. The Tigers played Mickey Stanley at shortstop to get an extra bat in the lineup.

Now that's the good stuff.

13 posted on 05/26/2008 10:19:20 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21
I saw Denny McClain at a book signing a few years back. The guy looked like he was at 300+ lbs.

Poor Leo Durocher had to suffer as his father in law for a few years.

14 posted on 05/26/2008 10:23:39 AM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: Nextrush

I can remember when they celebrated the 20th anniversary of Mrs. Robinson being at the top of the charts on WCBS. I was driving to visit my granmother’s grave (she having died a month earlier).


15 posted on 05/26/2008 10:25:06 AM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: Hildy

Looking at my own family, I can tell you that 1. they loved to drink (having been kids during the prohibition area) and 2. they fooled around just as much as folks do today.


16 posted on 05/26/2008 10:26:49 AM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: Hildy

Looking at my own family from THAT generation (the “older generation” in the 1960s), I can tell you that 1. they loved to drink (having been kids during the prohibition area) and 2. they fooled around just as much as folks do today.


17 posted on 05/26/2008 10:27:16 AM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: Clemenza

Yes...and that was what the Graduate was trying to expose. I just saw that movie again recently. I still don’t think it’s as good as everyone said it was. But I was only 10 years old when it was released. But then again, I don’t think Mike Nichols is as good as everyone says he is. I thought his last big movie, CLOSER was the biggest pile of self-indulgent crap I’ve ever seen.


18 posted on 05/26/2008 10:30:04 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: expatpat

LOL. We were thinking of “They all s**k 08” or something in that vain.


19 posted on 05/26/2008 4:36:54 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: Bobalu; SAMWolf
LOL. My husband made us a sticker a few weeks ago.


20 posted on 05/26/2008 6:05:22 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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Turing 7 yo in 1968 didn't stop me from hearing "Mrs. Robinson" on the radio that year BION. Or "Love is Blue". Or "This Guy's in Love with You". Or "Little Green Apples". Or "Abraham, Martin and John". Or "I'm a Girl Watcher". Or maybe even "Born to be Wild", though that might be a stretch. OTOH I don't remember Status Quo's "Pictures of Matchstick Men" or the Beatles' "White Album".

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21 posted on 05/27/2008 7:45:50 PM PDT by foreverfree
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