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New York to Back Same-Sex Unions From Elsewhere
The New York Times ^ | May 29, 2008 | JEREMY W. PETERS

Posted on 05/28/2008 8:29:58 PM PDT by Embargo

ALBANY — Gov. David A. Paterson has directed all state agencies to begin to revise their policies and regulations to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions, like Massachusetts, California and Canada.

In a directive issued on May 14, the governor’s legal counsel, David Nocenti, instructed the agencies that gay couples married elsewhere “should be afforded the same recognition as any other legally performed union.”

The revisions are most likely to involve as many as 1,300 statutes and regulations in New York governing everything from joint filing of income tax returns to transferring fishing licenses between spouses.

In a videotaped message given to gay community leaders at a dinner on May 17, Mr. Paterson described the move as “a strong step toward marriage equality.” And people on both sides of the issue said it moved the state closer to fully legalizing same-sex unions in this state.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; govdavidapaterson; homosexualagenda; mentalillness; notbreakingnews; paterson; samesexmarriage; samesexunions
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To: Texas Eagle

I concur.


21 posted on 05/28/2008 9:27:05 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Embargo

as I recall Fred Thompson in his now famously bungled run for the white house said we didn’t need a constitutional amendment on this and freepers applauded (some)


22 posted on 05/28/2008 9:29:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (I want a woman POTUS like Elizabeth I in that last movie.....that is a she I could vote for. Balls)
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To: Embargo

These liberals had it locked up. They could have waited a year to pull this crap. Now it will be there undoing. They will help turn out the conservative vote.


23 posted on 05/28/2008 9:42:48 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Embargo

this country is already lost.


24 posted on 05/28/2008 9:50:56 PM PDT by balch3
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To: lightman
I wonder if I could seek political asylum at the Vatican?

Dont know but I assume you could refuse to pay your taxes and get sanctuary at one of the churches that harbors illegals.

25 posted on 05/28/2008 10:03:12 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: wireplay

Marriage is not a Civil Right. It is what it has always been, a Social Institution. It is therefore the province of the Society, not of a judicial oligarchy. When one branch of government seizes from the people their right to determine the very institutions that define their character, that branch has abrogated the consensual agreement with the people from which its power is derived.

Values and social norms DO change over time. They change slowly, as new paradigms either earn, or fail to earn, credibility and acceptance in the population at large. What is happening now is that a judiciary that is accountable to no one but the special interests that have bought and own it has seen fit to dictate to the rest of us new law which would never be passed by a legislature accountable to the people. The fact of a judiciary promulgating law is profoundly repugnant to the Separation of Powers on which the most successful and enduring model of self-government is based. That this judiciary promulgates law by virtue, not of changing the words of the law, but by changing what those words mean does not make such a usurpation of authority more acceptable for its facile and smug artifice.

And before you start with me, I’m not homophobic. I’m homo-fed-up. I used to have a lot more tolerance for the gay world than the average bear; the militant narcissism of the last decade has washed every shred of goodwill down the drain with me. You can’t demand my approval at the point of a gavel, and for trying, you have forfeited the ability to earn it in the future.

My final shot: I am sick of the ridiculous PR-firm-generated artifice that all we are supposed to be about is pushing for more liberties of any kind and every kind, whatever and whenever. Societies are defined by the structures and boundaries that they establish for themselves. The founders of the ACLU were correct nearly a century ago when they observed that the most effective path to Communism in the U.S. required severing the people from their cultural roots, and from any sense of connection with the past through their social institutions.

The gay world has made a lifetime enemy of me.


26 posted on 05/28/2008 10:03:18 PM PDT by Humble Servant ( Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: Texas Eagle

No way! All we need is a little civil unrest to make their plans a nightmare.

Don't forget--- they are the appeasers. White flaggers. A little resistance--- and the sissies will be screaming "Quagmire!"

27 posted on 05/28/2008 10:10:05 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Brimack34

I agree. A Democratic friend insists that these gay marriage brouhahas that erupt like clockwork every presidential election year are the result of a Republican plot. I don’t agree, mainly because I can’t imagine the Republican party doing anything that clever, but she might as well be right.


28 posted on 05/28/2008 10:16:57 PM PDT by Grammar Nazi ("Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað.")
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To: Embargo

Amazing that six pro-homo judges in Californicate can affect the entire country like this.


29 posted on 05/28/2008 10:20:07 PM PDT by hattend (We're so screwed)
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To: Embargo

thanks, bfl


30 posted on 05/28/2008 10:45:57 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Humble Servant

Hey Humble Servant, haven’t you heard that “average bears” are hot in the gay community...happy hunting!!!


31 posted on 05/28/2008 11:01:08 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Texas Eagle

Yep. :-(


32 posted on 05/29/2008 12:13:53 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
And worse, they don't care about his policies as evidenced by this. Incidentally, one of his tomcatting around town lies actually involved state business and should have outraged people:
Despite having a state driver to chauffeur him the 20 minutes home, Paterson, as lieutenant governor, sometimes chose to stay downtown because of a busy schedule, spokesman Errol Cockfield said.

"While he was lieutenant governor, Gov. Paterson had a grueling schedule that required him to be near the Capitol for sensitive negotiations, meetings with legislative leaders, and government-related conferences," he added.

"In some cases, he needed to be closer to the Capitol than his Guilderland home and he stayed within a stone's throw of the Capitol so that he could quickly respond to the urgent needs of the state."

One state-government source laughed at the explanation, noting that lieutenant governors, Paterson included, typically are not involved much in day-to-day matters and that Paterson admitted that, as lieutenant governor, he had no role in budget negotiations.
(Source: NY Post March 24, 2008 "Paterson's Inn Trouble")

So if it wasn't budget-related (and with a $5 billion deficit he's lucky it wasn't) just what was this urgent and sensitive work that Paterson was carrying on that he had to stay downtown? We all know the answer, but apparently, few people care to call him on it.

Disgusting.

33 posted on 05/29/2008 3:03:43 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Embargo
New York to Back Same-Sex Unions From Elsewhere
34 posted on 05/29/2008 3:28:59 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

He is a puppet. Silver and Bruno are running the show and they despise each other. At least we are rid of Punk Boss Eliot FOREVER!


35 posted on 05/29/2008 3:59:32 AM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Embargo
"And people on both sides of the issue said it moved the state closer to fully legalizing same-sex unions in this state."

Same sex "unions" are already legal..no one gets put in jail for it. If they want legal monetary bennies they can call it something other than marriage. This is nothing more than a commie attempt to eliminate our values, namely the religious ones. They must get rid of our religions and guns to get complete control. Never...never let it happen.

36 posted on 05/29/2008 4:43:38 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Look both ways when crossing the street son and don't throw Gramma under the bus!)
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To: wireplay

An amendment limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples no more limits your rights than the constitutional requirements that you be 35 to be President.

Of course, there are many many cases where the government rightly distinguishes between actions that promote the public welfare, and those that do not. Normally, we don’t need constitutional amendments to define these, because the Constitition already allows the congress to make laws.

It’s just the political nature of the courts that have caused us to have to look to change the constitution.

Laws should be applied fairly, and equally to all. For example, either every individual should have a right to perform anal sex, or none should. Same with oral sex, or sex with animals. Equal rights under the law.

So if any state passed a law that forbid a “gay” man to marry, I would be right next to the gays fighting for their right to do the same thing I did — marry a woman.

Because history has shown that gay people can marry women and have children and raise families, just like hetorsexual people can.

BTW, at some point, after a few states have legalized “gay marriage”, they will no doubt start discriminating against some guys who want to get married, but whom the state will decide aren’t really “gay”, but are just trying to get special state benefits.

THAT’S where the discrimination will be, when we force people to prove they are gay to qualify for same-sex marriage.


37 posted on 05/29/2008 5:10:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Embargo

When did the New York governor get king-like powers to change the laws of the state without a vote?

I can’t imagine the current laws say that marriage benefits can be assigned to same-sex couples.

Although I guess the laws probably don’t say — but then I would have expected a lawsuit to have alreaedy required New York to recognize the marriages from Mass.


38 posted on 05/29/2008 5:13:33 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"So if any state passed a law that forbid a “gay” man to marry, I would be right next to the gays fighting for their right to do the same thing I did — marry a woman."

Why MUST they call it marriage pray tell? That is what this is all about in a nutshell...not that they want "rights". You are falling for the whole fish, hook, line and sinker.

39 posted on 05/29/2008 5:15:18 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Look both ways when crossing the street son and don't throw Gramma under the bus!)
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To: Earthdweller

Actually, it is about more than just the name “marriage”, at least for a lot of us.

In MY opinion, those who push to protect the “name” Marriage are the ones that have fallen for the trap. I don’t want to protect the name “marriage”, I want to protect myself and other taxpayers from having to provide special benefits and incentives for individuals to enter into contractual societal arrangements that I believe to be contrary to nature, and that do not further legitimate government or societal interests.

That means I oppose civil unions that convey the benefits of marriage as well. And in Virginia, our Marriage Amendment specifically included a prohibition against ANY attempt to provide marriage benefits by another name.

People do have individual rights. And there is a compelling argument to make for ensuring that each person’s rights are protected, regardless of their religion, their gender, their race, or their philosophy.

But the availability of government benefits for certain favored acts is not a “right”. If the government defines such benefits, it is the right of each person who meets the qualifications to get those benefits, regardless of who or what they are.

Therefore, a gay man should be allowed to marry a woman.

Note that it wasn’t that long ago that there were laws against a black man marrying a white woman. The Gay lobby tries to equate that with the prohibition against a man marrying a man.


40 posted on 05/29/2008 5:37:27 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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