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U.S. emissions bill a "first step": U.N. climate chief (Lieberman-Warner)
reuters ^ | May 30, 2008 | Alister Doyle, Environment Correspondent

Posted on 05/30/2008 3:23:12 PM PDT by mdittmar

A bill going to the U.S. Senate next week seeking deep cuts in U.S. greenhouse gases by 2050 is a "first step" but not enough to avert damaging climate change, the head of the U.N. Climate Panel said on Friday.

Rajendra Pachauri also said that even tougher plans by some other developed nations to rein in emissions were insufficient to head off some projected impacts of global warming, ranging from more heatwaves and droughts to rising seas.

The U.S. bill, sponsored by Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent and Sen. John Warner, a Virginia Republican, seeks to cut U.S. emissions by up to 66 percent below current levels by 2050. It will be debated from June 2.

"I think it's enough as a first step," Pachauri told reporters during a visit to Oslo. "I wouldn't say it is the final solution one is looking for."

He welcomed the effort as far more stringent than a plan outlined last month by President George W. Bush that would let U.S. emissions rise to a 2025 ceiling. The United States and China are the top emitters of greenhouse gases.

Bush's plan upset some of his industrial allies because it is far less tough than the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol under which 37 developed nations have agreed to cut emissions, mainly from burning fossil fuels, by 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2008-12.

Several leading scientists in the U.N. panel, which shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize with former U.S. Vice President and climate campaigner Al Gore, on Thursday urged far deeper cuts than those now under consideration by major nations.

The authors, including British scientist Martin Parry, wrote in the journal Nature that the world had to cut emissions by 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050 to limit temperature rises to 2 Celsius (3.6 Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels.

NOT ENOUGH

"I would agree with Martin Parry; current efforts are certainly not enough," Pachauri said. A 2.0 Celsius rise is viewed by the European Union and some other nations as a threshold for "dangerous" climate changes.

Pachauri said that estimates by the U.N. Climate Panel showed that "if you want to stabilize the increase in temperatures to between 2.0 to 2.4 Celsius we are talking about cuts of 25 to 40 percent by 2020" below 1990 levels.

"That is clearly far above what was considered at any stage in the discussions on the Kyoto Protocol," he said.

Almost 200 nations including the United States agreed in Bali, Indonesia, in December to work out a new U.N. treaty by the end of 2009 to curb global warming after a first period of the Kyoto Protocol runs out in 2012.

U.S. environmentalists are supportive of the Lieberman-Warner bill but want more in the legislation.

The business community questions the economic impact, and the politicians who have shepherded it seem gratified that it has managed to get this far -- even though it is unlikely to become law this year.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; carbonnazis; climatechange; climatenazis; congress; crapaganda; envirowhackos; goebbelswarming; johnwarner; junkscience; lieberman
Well,that's scary.
1 posted on 05/30/2008 3:30:03 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
Another CANCEROUS bureaucracy rears its felonious head...
2 posted on 05/30/2008 3:31:12 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: mdittmar; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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3 posted on 05/30/2008 3:33:55 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: mdittmar

...I thought global warming was inevitable. That we were all doomed.

Now I learn that all we have to do is put the UN in charge?

What to believe, what to believe....


4 posted on 05/30/2008 3:34:45 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: Tzimisce

“Now I learn that all we have to do is put the UN in charge?”

That will fix everything. It always does.


5 posted on 05/30/2008 3:38:45 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: mdittmar
U.N. climate cthief
6 posted on 05/30/2008 3:41:44 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: mdittmar

Like the UK, is a rationing card soon to follow?

A card with holes punched in it for CO2 usage, fill your qouta and you`re either cut off or you have to buy credits from another person. In other words,complete control over every individual everywhere and from a CO2 card to some form of digital device.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 3:47:51 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: mdittmar
Lieberman is a lib so his actions are no surprise, if foolish, he is in character.

Warner is a complete disappointment. Three bricks shy of a full load and consorts with enemy.

8 posted on 05/30/2008 3:58:42 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: mdittmar
"Billions of pounds are being wasted in paying industries in developing countries to reduce climate change emissions, according to two analyses of the UN's carbon offsetting program. Leading academics and watchdog groups allege that the UN's main offset fund is being routinely abused by chemical, wind, gas and hydro companies who are claiming emission reduction credits for projects that should not qualify. The result is that no genuine pollution cuts are being made, undermining assurances by the UK government and others that carbon markets are dramatically reducing greenhouse gases, the researchers say." The UN is corrupr. Need I say More
9 posted on 05/30/2008 3:59:34 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: steveab

The UN is corrupt.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 4:00:33 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: mdittmar
Beam me up to PLANETGORE

11 posted on 05/30/2008 4:03:07 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: mdittmar
Every, and I mean every article and post I see about GW and other junk science crap contains the word, may, might, could, should, or the like. In my training as a Physicist I never heard a Prof use those terms. When I got my Patent License, I never, in my studies for that certificate, saw those terms. When I have read and written patents, I have NEVER used those terms.

These idiots scare the s**t outta me.

12 posted on 05/30/2008 4:04:56 PM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: mdittmar; All

Who do you all think will get the job of monitoring human flatulence???? Any guesses???


13 posted on 05/30/2008 4:05:51 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: dbacks
These idiots scare the s**t outta me.

Me too...

I can't believe we have so many USA politicians willing to sell the economy down river for "may", might", and "could". It's criminal and stupid.

14 posted on 05/30/2008 4:10:25 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: mdittmar

Scarier, is the godlike attitude of those who even give thought to the idea that legislation can change weather patterns, much less stave off in any way what nature has in store. The sheer idiocy of such belief is beyond all my comprehension.

To hear some senator claim we cannot drill our way of of this, is also coming from where the sun doesn’t shine, but to contemplate returning to 1990 when the population has grown, is a Pandora’s box, and I’ll venture to say that we don’t have a Chinaman’s chance of conserving our way to prosperity, or growth that will sustain the freedom we need to grow and prosper.

There is more, but first, our senators need to be inundated with calls this coming week and there hopefully will be some serious reminder threads.


15 posted on 05/30/2008 4:30:19 PM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: mdittmar

I guess I’ll be voting to get Lieberman out.


16 posted on 05/30/2008 5:19:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
complete control over every individual everywhere and from a CO2 card to some form of digital device.

Just as the Beast ordered. 666. Carbon: Element #6 on the Periodic Table.

17 posted on 05/30/2008 9:49:31 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: mdittmar

“Well,that’s scary.”

It would be a disaster...

Anybody know whether Bush would sign this if it made through congress?


18 posted on 05/30/2008 10:15:12 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: mdittmar
Bush's plan upset some of his industrial allies because it is far less tough than the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol under which 37 developed nations have agreed to cut emissions...

And yet the reports I've read say that the US has controlled our emissions better than just about every country that signed onto the Kyoto Protocol.

Isn't it funny how that's not mentioned in this article.

19 posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:24 PM PDT by RJL
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To: mdittmar; Timeout; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

20 posted on 06/02/2008 12:00:50 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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