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Support for Obama Soars in Europe: Poll
newsmax.com ^ | May 30, 2008 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 05/30/2008 6:53:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

If citizens of five leading European countries were electing the next U.S. president, Democratic Sen. Barack Obama would be a shoo-in, according to a new poll that also reveals strong views on America's global role.

In a survey of some 6,200 people in Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Russia, the senator from Illinois received 52 percent of the vote to just 15 percent for Republican Sen. John McCain. Sen. Hillary Clinton was not listed as an option in the YouGov poll, conducted for the London Daily Telegraph 's Internet site.

The biggest gap between the two presumptive candidates was in Germany, where Obama scored 67 percent support to McCain's six percent. In Russia, the gap was the smallest, with Obama leading by a 31-24 margin.

Respondents in the other three countries also favored Obama by large margins -- Italy (70-15), France (65-8) and Britain (49-14).

To a separate question, respondents said Obama was better equipped than McCain "to lead the world economy out of its current difficulties" in all the surveyed countries except Russia, where McCain was favored by a 36-28 point margin.

The survey also found that more people in four of the five countries viewed the United States as "a force for evil" in today's world than "a force for good."

Only in Italy did more respondents (49-27 percent) consider the U.S. a force for good rather than evil. Of those in the other four countries, Russians were the most anti-American, with 56 percent calling the U.S. a force for evil and only 16 percent a force for good. Germans had the next most negative view (39-25 percent) of America's global role.

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; europespresident; eurotwitsforkerry; obama; worldopinion

1 posted on 05/30/2008 6:53:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe we could vote him off the island in November and send him to rule over the Euro-peons.


2 posted on 05/30/2008 6:54:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Russia,

OK that's 5 of the 57 states Obama campaigned in

3 posted on 05/30/2008 6:55:36 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good, let’s ship him over there.


4 posted on 05/30/2008 6:57:32 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: FlingWingFlyer

These Euro-Weenies love Muslims, so naturally they’re gonna love a Muslim apostate like Obama-lama-ding-dong.


5 posted on 05/30/2008 6:58:03 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The road to victory in Iraq is through Iran.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

6 posted on 05/30/2008 7:02:17 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop the Obamanation!))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I don't believe this poll is legit. I know the euro-weenies are steadily being brainwashed by their left wing media but these numbers are unbelievable. Any Europeans out there care to comment?
7 posted on 05/30/2008 7:03:19 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Does anyone even care what Europeans want or think anymore? I don’t dislike Europe, I dislike Europeans.


8 posted on 05/30/2008 7:05:15 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Great, make Obama president of the EU.


9 posted on 05/30/2008 7:06:01 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

THEY can have him.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 7:06:10 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Everyone repeat after me...

“AMERICANS DON’T CARE!”

Just don;t call us 10 years from now when Saudi Italia or the Arab Emirate of Germany calls us for the 3rd time to save their spineless hides all over again.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 7:08:38 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Let’s see, they don’t like us and want to saddle us with Obama. Makes sense.


12 posted on 05/30/2008 7:10:11 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Southerngl
Yeah, if he wins their election can we make them keep him?
13 posted on 05/30/2008 7:10:30 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is this the same Europe which has been electing conservatives?


14 posted on 05/30/2008 7:14:18 PM PDT by psjones (u)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Seems to me they were in love with Jean Francois and Albert le Grand Gros Fromage as well, weren’t they?


15 posted on 05/30/2008 7:16:18 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m going to quit following politics henceforth and simply vote for the person running against the person European polls favor.


16 posted on 05/30/2008 7:20:21 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disagree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The world doesn’t need two Europes.


17 posted on 05/30/2008 7:25:43 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

YEP...that was MY thought....”THEY CAN HAVE HIM!” Now....please


18 posted on 05/30/2008 7:33:10 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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To: BBell

I remember talking to my French friend a few months back. She was curious who I wanted to be our next President: Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

I told her neither. That I was for Mitt Romney.

She went silent for a minute and then commented about how she didn’t even know he was in the race. This was in the most heated moments of the campaign. Just before Iowa.

I think that’s very telling about the media Europeans are fed. This particular girl is generally fairly well informed. But you could tell where the media focus was.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 7:39:29 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Does anyone else out there feel like the rest of Planet Earth has been taken up in a spacecraft by aliens,had brain transplants,returned back down to earth and you and your immediate family were missed ?


20 posted on 05/30/2008 7:40:39 PM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: CremeSaver

I agree. Who gives a rats ass what the eurotrash think? After all, that’s why we are here and not there.


21 posted on 05/30/2008 7:44:45 PM PDT by balls
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Of course they’re for Baraq. They hate America, too.


22 posted on 05/30/2008 7:47:19 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great...(until it happens to YOU).)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have a friend who just got back from Europe and he said CNN broadcast Hate America BS over there 24/7.


23 posted on 05/30/2008 7:48:10 PM PDT by kempo (c)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
I was reading a British site last evening and it was buzzing with US election updates. (Actually, I was blown away by how much attention they pay to US politics.) The entire premise of the thread was how excited they are getting about the election and Obama’s presidency. One poster said that they, “want so much to have a reason to like America again.” An American on the site wrote that he thought it was too late for that, and that the damage was already done. I agreed with the American.
24 posted on 05/30/2008 7:50:11 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: All

If I ever doubted that I was absolutely 100% right in disliking and not trusting Obama, the Europeans erased all doubt. They are generally wrong about most everything....


25 posted on 05/30/2008 7:57:00 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: balls
I have argued with quite a few who think that they have every right “to have a say” in American politics and elections, because what happens here “affects the whole world.” I said pony up your tax Euros first and we'll talk.

The problem as I see it, is that we treat them as equals and believe that they are competent enough to have their elections without interference. How nice it would be if we got the same courtesy without comment, or opinions from them.

26 posted on 05/30/2008 7:57:37 PM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: psjones

A European Conservative is basically an American Democrat.


27 posted on 05/30/2008 7:58:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Notasoccermom

That could explain everything.


28 posted on 05/30/2008 8:23:38 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop the Obamanation!))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Support for Obama Soars in Europe: Poll

Reason #427 not to vote for Obama.

29 posted on 05/30/2008 8:27:51 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Free ThinkerNY

F them. This is our country.


30 posted on 05/30/2008 8:34:03 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The next Demorats’ target constituency. If dead Americans can vote, why not live Euros?


31 posted on 05/30/2008 9:20:18 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The survey also found that more people in four of the five countries viewed the United States as "a force for evil secularism, abortion, and gay marriage" in today's world than "a force for good."
32 posted on 05/30/2008 9:25:15 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
No real surprise here. Obama is a euro-socialist, so he feels familiar to the masses of the teeming shore. Fortunately, the inspired Founders understood that America would flourish by eschewing the blighted values of the Old World. It still is true today. Europe's values are not our values and thank God for the difference.
33 posted on 05/30/2008 9:25:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: CremeSaver; Free ThinkerNY; max americana
Although not a European, I guess I qualify to respond to your question as an American ex- pat who has spent most of every year in Germany for nearly 20 years now.

Anecdotally, I can confirm the poll. Virtually every German and Swiss that I talk to are enthusiastically for Obama. Their knowledge of the man and his politics, of course, is quite superficial. The article gives one indication why that is so, because they conflate Obama with JFK. Anyone knowledgeable with Kennedy would know that, despite his faults, he was philosophically an anti-Communist. Barak Obama, a disciple of Saul Alinsky, can hardly lay claim to kinship with Kennedy in that respect.

I think the support for Obama comes for the same reasons that it appears in America: Obama is black. There is no other conceivable reason for such a man with his stunning lack of qualifications to have virtually sewn up the nomination of a (formerly ) great American political party and to have found himself on the threshold of becoming President of the United States of America. As a black man, and an empty vessel, Obama, by his very personhood, offers the left expiation for the sins of slavery and prejudice. Since much of Europe believes that white America is bigoted, they join in this mass hypnosis.

Some years ago here on Free Republic there was a serious discussion about why Europe and America are traveling down diverging paths. It has more to it than mere distaste of George Bush and fondness for Barak Obama, it has to do with a widening gulf of philosophy between left and right.

I know there is a lot of indignant reaction in America especially on the right to the arrogance of leftism in Europe. The human reaction is to declare that we don't care what Europe thinks. The problem is, that conservatism is on the run all over the world, even in Europe despite the elections in France and in Britain. That leaves a shrinking number of red states in America, whose number might soon be reduced to the citadel of the old Confederacy, to carry the torch of liberty for the whole world. If Europe succumbs to leftism, it will succumb in the war of Islamic Jihad and America will be left without allies. The freedom of the whole world will be placed in jeopardy. I do not believe a dwindling number of red states, without any effective leverage in the federal government, can long hold out against the threat of international leftism.

By the time Barak Obama and the leftist American Senate conclude a series of international treaties, starting with "climate change", there will be no American Constitution and no Bill of Rights left.

We have no choice but to care about what Europe thinks.


34 posted on 05/30/2008 9:45:57 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They wanted Kerry too.

Didn’t happen for some strange reason.


35 posted on 05/30/2008 9:52:44 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: nathanbedford

**We have no choice but to care about what Europe thinks.**

That was the incorrect ending to your incisive comment. It should be ...

“we have no choice but to surrender our rights THEN the real revolution or Civil War begins.”


36 posted on 05/30/2008 9:56:57 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I forget, how many Electors does Europe get in our Electoral College? None, you say? Then who cares what they think?


37 posted on 05/30/2008 10:24:13 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How does this square with the most recent French, German, and Italian elections? Or Brit for that matter. Each of the newly elected leaders in those countries is far friendlier to the US than their predecessors or opponents.

The US/Bush have been bashed more there than here, hard as that may be to imagine. And, I suspect the polling sample (per the Guardian) is more left leaning than the general populations of those countries (which are pretty left by US standards). It seems the US is the country they love to hate, but want to have their useless backs.


38 posted on 05/30/2008 10:27:21 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: EDINVA
Again:

EURO CONSERVATIVES would be considered liberal or moderate Democrats in the US. On issues from the environment to human/civil rights, they are to the left of us.

Comparing a "conservative" in Europe to that of the US is an apples and oranges comparison. American conservatism is rooted in classical liberalism, while that of Europe is an amalgam of Catholic traditionalism and corporatavism, with the occasional neoliberal economic idea thrown in.

39 posted on 05/30/2008 10:31:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Russians were the most anti-American, with 56 percent calling the U.S. a force for evil and only 16 percent a force for good.

Stalin's government-run killing machine slaughtered 20 million Russians. Apparently the ones who could comprehend history.

The remainder think the US is evil because we buy less Dixie Chick records than we used to.

40 posted on 05/30/2008 10:33:13 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Clemenza

I believe I said that Euros are to the left of us, generally.


41 posted on 05/30/2008 10:35:13 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: BBell
I don't believe this poll is legit. I know the euro-weenies are steadily being brainwashed by their left wing media but these numbers are unbelievable. Any Europeans out there care to comment?

Although I am not European I agree with you. Look at Italy for example. They just had a national election where they ushered in an overwhelming majority of center - right and hard right wing politicians. They tossed the left out on their proverbial asses. From what I read no green politicians were elected for the first time in decades. Not one.

It seems that the Italians who were polled have missed the news about Obama that has surfaced since mid - February. They are still in love with the concept of Obama.

42 posted on 05/31/2008 4:45:42 AM PDT by saneright
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Well I guess that takes any doubt about who the right Candidate to vote for is


43 posted on 05/31/2008 6:48:11 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Always Right

Ditto!!!


44 posted on 05/31/2008 6:50:24 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When are they going to ask me in an opinion poll of what I think about other countries opinions?


45 posted on 05/31/2008 8:42:30 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy

lol


46 posted on 05/31/2008 8:43:37 AM PDT by commonguymd (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2023187/posts?page=911#911)
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