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Is Hillary preparing the "nuclear option" in Democratic race?
nationalpost.com ^ | May 31, 3008 | Sheldon Alberts

Posted on 05/31/2008 8:26:50 PM PDT by HAL9000

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Bill and Hillary Clinton no longer control the Democratic primary.

There's simply no other conclusion to draw after the party's Rules and Bylaw committee reached a decision Saturday that helps Barack Obama and hurts Hillary Clinton's chances of somehow winning the Democratic presidential nomination.

Clinton, in the words of Florida State Sen. Arthenia Joyner, wanted "it all" at Saturday's meeting. She wanted full delegations seated from Florida and Michigan, with a full vote.

She wanted Obama to get zero delegates from Michigan, since he followed the rules, ignored the outlaw primary and went so far as to take his name off the ballot. (Granted, he did this largely to please voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, but so did Clinton when she agreed not to campaign in either state).

Instead of acquiesing to Clinton's demands, the rules committee awarded full delegations with half votes. And they gave Obama a bunch of delegates from Michigan to boot, rejecting Clinton's argument those delegates should be uncommitted.

So did Clinton get ripped off? Her supporters certainly believed so, shouting their disapproval when the votes on Florida and Michigan were taken Saturday at a Washington hotel.

But let's look more closely. Clintonites on the rules committee actually voted unanimously to support the Florida compromise. ....

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cilntons; clinton; dnc; hillary; howarddean; nuclearoption; obama; operationchaos; rbc
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1 posted on 05/31/2008 8:26:50 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

I hope so and may it lead to complete mayhem.


2 posted on 05/31/2008 8:29:36 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: HAL9000

Haha...

Rush you magnificent bastard.


3 posted on 05/31/2008 8:30:06 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Change the 22nd Amendment so all politicians serve two terms.)
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To: HAL9000
I think she's going all in.

She's not being considered by VP.
She won't be in the cabinet.
She will find the Senate a very cold place to be when the campaign is over.
She's pretty much burned the bridges for 2012.

This is her last hurrah. She will hold nothing back.

4 posted on 05/31/2008 8:31:32 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: HAL9000

seems like.......chaos?


5 posted on 05/31/2008 8:32:36 PM PDT by Larry381
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To: ClearCase_guy

no...she actually think she will have another chance in 2012 after McCain beats Obama like a red-headed stepchild.


6 posted on 05/31/2008 8:33:19 PM PDT by Keith (ANY REPUBLICAN in 2008 -- it's about defeating lefty surrender-monkeys like Obama)
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To: HAL9000
Good grief! Hide the ash trays.
Heck, anyone in shouting distance of sHillary....
Get out of there now.......
Watch out Huma.
7 posted on 05/31/2008 8:34:07 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Larry381
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8 posted on 05/31/2008 8:37:31 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You hit the nail on the head.

Pass the popcorn, Orville.....


9 posted on 05/31/2008 8:37:58 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: Keith
no...she actually think she will have another chance in 2012 after McCain beats Obama like a red-headed stepchild.

I agree. McCain is only going for one term even if he hasn't specifically said so yet. Clinton's challenge is to help sink SS Obama with "friendly fire" while appearing to support him.

10 posted on 05/31/2008 8:39:28 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: All; HAL9000; DarthVader; EQAndyBuzz; ClearCase_guy; Larry381; Keith; Fiddlstix; Cobra64; exit82; ..

Operation Chaos: Why Rush Limbaugh Was Right
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2011242/posts


11 posted on 05/31/2008 8:42:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
This is her last hurrah. She will hold nothing back.

You might be right.

12 posted on 05/31/2008 8:42:30 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Rush you magnificent bastard.

And he's not done yet. The last few months have been one some of the most enjoyable listening ever.

13 posted on 05/31/2008 8:43:15 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: Cobra64

It does all seem just a bit chaotic now, doesn’t it? Rush is awesome.


14 posted on 05/31/2008 8:44:11 PM PDT by swampdweller
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To: Sooth2222

She and Slick have experience at it by camoflauge in 2004 elections coyly helping to sink the SS sKerry frigate offering virtually no support to Lurch.


15 posted on 05/31/2008 8:44:21 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: HAL9000
Blame Florida and Michigan for this fiasco. Their selfishness in trying to upstage Iowa and New Hampshire has thrown the Democratic Party into chaos. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

Then blame Obama for being naive enough to play by the rules knowing he was up against the Clinton crime machine. While Obama took his name off the ballot like a dope, the Clintons ensured they kept their name on so they at least had the opportunity to try and walk away with all the delegates for themselves. Then the Clintons show up in Florida right before the primary there. But they weren't really campaigning, they were having "fundraisers."

Obama, you are such a sucker.

16 posted on 05/31/2008 8:46:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 64 days away from outliving Vicki Sue Robinson)
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To: DarthVader

The way I see it is that, even with a Clintonian “nuclear option”, Obozo’s followers will not budge. One has to be totally brainwashed and beyond mental reach to even consider voting for him.


17 posted on 05/31/2008 8:51:00 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: HAL9000

Pretty devastating takedown of Hill tonight on SNL - she’s the best candidate she claims because “1. I’m a sore loser; 2. My supporters are racists; 3. I have absolutely no ethical standards”...finally the MSM have got her right.....


18 posted on 05/31/2008 8:52:28 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Keith

I am afraid you are correct. The Dims will have buyers remorse after McCain wins 350+ EVs in November. They will then turn to H.Clinton in 2012.


19 posted on 05/31/2008 8:53:31 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Sooth2222

Would Hillary really have a lot of support in 2012 after everything that has happened in this campaign?


20 posted on 05/31/2008 8:54:09 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ClearCase_guy
This is her last hurrah. She will hold nothing back.

Yup, the Clinton's are OVER if she doesn't get the dem nod. She's cornered and she's spittin mad!

Oh the humanity.....please pass the popcorn.

21 posted on 05/31/2008 8:55:52 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: JLS

Isn’t it likely a new face will emerge in 2012 on the Dem. side, similar to how Obama rose this year? The Clintons aren’t looked at the same way anymore. I think Hillary will have challengers in 2012, assuming McCain beats Obama in November.


22 posted on 05/31/2008 8:57:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ClearCase_guy
I agree. She (and her husband) are done as a force in the Democratic party. Their lying, racism, whining and belief in entitlement have probably soured Dem's toward her for 2012, 2016 and beyond.
23 posted on 05/31/2008 8:57:26 PM PDT by meanman (A)
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To: Keith

>>>no...she actually think she will have another chance in 2012 after McCain beats Obama like a red-headed stepchild.

No: I think Hillary’s logic is without flaw : from the point of view of her own self-interests.

If she actually succeeds in getting the nomination, well: she’s got the nomination.

If she fails, and - as it would appear to be the case - Obama’s candidacy bites the dust, she’s got four years of “I told you so’s” to the Dems, and she gets the 2012 nomination. (Not that she has a good chance running in either 2008 or 2012)


24 posted on 05/31/2008 8:57:32 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: All
All you guys are going to be eating crow if Hillary wins the nominaton.

Operation Chaos, my ass.

25 posted on 05/31/2008 8:59:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bipartisanship: Two wolves and the American people deciding what's for dinner)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
People forget that Obama has the ultimate nuclear option in his arsenal...

The Barrett Report which can be released in unredacted form by any sitting Senator and has been said to be devastating for the Clintons.

26 posted on 05/31/2008 8:59:34 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: swampdweller

This is an extraordinarily interesting and fairly hilarious election season.

Rush will go into the history books for this. LOL


27 posted on 05/31/2008 8:59:52 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: HAL9000

Is there anything she won’t do to attain power?


28 posted on 05/31/2008 9:06:14 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I disagree. I am betting she will make a speech endorsing Obama, call off the attack dogs, and make a graceful exit. No sarcasm tag.


29 posted on 05/31/2008 9:08:10 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: gov_bean_ counter

What is the Barret Report?


30 posted on 05/31/2008 9:10:42 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: HAL9000
The articlce is wrong. Obama visited Mich and pulled out of the race after he say how far Hillary was ahead. It was strategy to delegitimize the primary .
31 posted on 05/31/2008 9:11:28 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Would Hillary really have a lot of support in 2012 after everything that has happened in this campaign? Would over 40% of American's forget that we are at war with terrorists? Yes So they could easily forget that Hillary did this crap. Of course they would just spin it as she'll fight even harder than gore if the vote doesn't go her way (for those that remember this fiasco and the gore fiasco).
32 posted on 05/31/2008 9:11:44 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: HAL9000
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33 posted on 05/31/2008 9:11:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: ncalburt
The articlce is wrong. Obama visited Mich and pulled out of the race after he say how far Hillary was ahead. It was strategy to delegitimize the primary .

It's sad that most people don't realize this. If he was really about following the rules...why didnt' he take his name off the florida ballot?

34 posted on 05/31/2008 9:12:56 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: HAL9000

Fort Marcy Park is going to be an awful busy place in the coming months.


35 posted on 05/31/2008 9:13:10 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: DarthVader

AMEN!


36 posted on 05/31/2008 9:15:32 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
People forget that Obama has the ultimate nuclear option in his arsenal...The Barrett Report...care to elaborate, I hope?!~.....
37 posted on 05/31/2008 9:15:48 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: HAL9000

Hillary is a sociopath. We will never see the end of her.

If Obama makes her his VP, she may pull an RFK on him.

2012 will be her last chance to run for president (she will be too old in 2016), and the Dems will run the incumbent, so she may pull an RFK then, too.

Hillary is like the monster in the horror movie — you throw it out the window and think it’s gone, but it keeps crawling back in. We have not seen the last of her.


38 posted on 05/31/2008 9:16:05 PM PDT by Old Phone Man (ks)
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To: OrioleFan

Ooh, mentioning Fort Marcy is getting a wee bit morbid, I thought it was all about the karma, as the uber-hollywood starlet: Sharon Stone famously stated./Just Asking - seoul62.........


39 posted on 05/31/2008 9:16:15 PM PDT by seoul62 (T)
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To: Aria

Yep...Rush has managed to get me interested in an election that isn’t really thrilling me.


40 posted on 05/31/2008 9:17:41 PM PDT by swampdweller
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To: nwrep

Here’s a rabid Clinton supporter from Ca. video...
extra bonus coverage of a DUmp thread included...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x140792


41 posted on 05/31/2008 9:18:23 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Pretty devastating takedown of Hill tonight on SNL - she’s the best candidate she claims because “1. I’m a sore loser; 2. My supporters are racists; 3. I have absolutely no ethical standards”...finally the MSM have got her right.....

WOW. Almost makes it worth watching. 

42 posted on 05/31/2008 9:22:52 PM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Nope. Stick a fork in her. She and the Flubba have so damaged the ‘Toon brand that they’re lucky they made $100M in the last years. Flubba’s campaign money laundering scheme-—uh, speaking fees-—just lost about all their market value.


43 posted on 05/31/2008 9:22:59 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: meanman

In the meantime, if McCain plays his/our cards right as to VP, it won’t matter that he’s a one-term president. He can set this up and establish his legacy from Day One.


44 posted on 05/31/2008 9:24:37 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
The Barrett Report which can be released in unredacted form by any sitting Senator and has been said to be devastating for the Clintons.

Aren't there any republicans in the senate? 

45 posted on 05/31/2008 9:24:48 PM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
She won't be in the cabinet.

But maybe she'll come out of the closet.

46 posted on 05/31/2008 9:24:51 PM PDT by fso301
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To: tflabo

Thanks for the link, but supporters are irrelevant to this. Hillary will make peace with the party soon.


47 posted on 05/31/2008 9:25:15 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: SamAdams76
Obama, you are such a sucker.

Agreed, and that's the main reason I don't fear him as president. He's way too naive to figure out how to get the whole country singing kumbahyah. He'll be branded a miserable failure if he doesn't have half of the troops out of Iraq by the time his term is up to its hundreth day.

I really think we conservatives have a lot to pat ourselves on the back for when it comes to this nomination fight in the Rat party. It started way before Operation Chaos, when Hitlery uttered the phrase, "vast right wing conspiracy"; at that point we knew we had already run her off the rails. From that moment on, we insured that she would never trust anyone except her chosen toadies, that she would view everything through the lens of "they're out to get me,", and that she would kamikaze the DemonRat party if necessary to get what she wanted.

We made it easy for Bubba to say, "But Hillary, the vast right wing conspiracy is making up all this stuff about Monica, you know how they hate us," before the DNA evidence came out. We also made it necessary that he would shoot off his big fat mouth about Barack Obama being the same as Jesse Jackson, etc., as payback for the embarassment he caused her over the Lewinsky stuff.

We made her into the raving lunatic that she is, full of a sense of entitlement, victimhood, and righteous indignation. Oh, and I'm going to give some credit to those "Iron my shirt!" guys, they rammed the point home about sexism in America, and that all men (even black ones) are evil, which propelled her into being the atom bomb that nukes the Democrap party for at least a generation.

48 posted on 05/31/2008 9:25:39 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: ncalburt

So Obama out-strategeried the Witch every dang time!


49 posted on 05/31/2008 9:25:46 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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50 posted on 05/31/2008 9:26:41 PM PDT by pangenesis (Legalize freedom - vote Ron Paul!)
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