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Rev. Pfleger: "America is the Greatest Sin Against God"
ABCNews.com ^ | 6/1/08 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 06/01/2008 8:21:23 PM PDT by LdSentinal

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To: LdSentinal

bump ..... I’m waiting for Michelle Obama’s Kill Whitey speech myself. Think I’ll even save it to hard drive and send it to a liberal friend.


61 posted on 06/01/2008 9:32:38 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: LdSentinal
"Racism is still America's greatest addiction," Pfleger says. "I also believe that America is the greatest sin against God."

Of course, especially when you compare America to places like Rwanda and Darfur, where everything is just peachy between the races.

This guy knows exactly what he is doing ... which is trying to get attention for himself and nothing more. On second thought, he may also get off on embarrassing his superiors in the church.

62 posted on 06/01/2008 9:37:10 PM PDT by freespirited (Difference #1 between McCain and Obama: McCain is actually qualified to be president.)
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To: Onelifetogive

Still waiting for the other 150 denominations to address their pedophiles as well.


63 posted on 06/01/2008 9:37:18 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LdSentinal
"If the greatest command is to love, than the sin against love must be the greatest sin against God who IS love and who calls us to love one another. So that this greatest sin against God, racism, it's as natural as the air we breath."

So-o-o-o-o...shouldn't you love the racist? Isn't that what Jesus said to do: love those that hate you? Seems to me Jesus said something like, "What good does it do to love those who love you? Even the heathen do that. No. My command is this -- love those who hate you."

Something along those lines. I'm paraphrasing.

64 posted on 06/01/2008 9:39:06 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: LdSentinal

>”Racism is still America’s greatest addiction,” Pfleger says. “I also believe that America is the greatest sin against God.”<

This guy ought to know, as he’s sure got the racism monkey tightly attached to his back.

This evening, at my daughter’s baccalaureate, a real minister, a real man of God, gave a speech to the graduates. There was no pandering, no swaggering, no hint of or mention of race, and every person in the place young and old, listened intently to his message. You could have heard a pin drop in the place.

And, best of all, he spoke to public school students, in the auditorium of a public school, and unashamedly prayed in Jesus’ name.

It’s to these good folk, of both races, we must look in the coming years. The politicians and their sycophants will have us at each others’ throats if we don’t come together inspite of their incessant race baiting.


65 posted on 06/01/2008 9:43:09 PM PDT by Darnright (If "pro" is the opposite of "con", is progress the opposite of congress?)
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To: LdSentinal

How does Fr. Pfleger rationalize the commandment to love one another, his Church’s teachings and Obama’s unqualified support for abortion, including partial birth abortions?


66 posted on 06/01/2008 9:44:49 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: LdSentinal

Always through history, the race card to deflect what they are really doing.


67 posted on 06/01/2008 9:54:36 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: pissant

Thanks, pissant. I couldn’t think of anything nice or appropriate to say in response to that comment.


68 posted on 06/01/2008 10:06:50 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: roses of sharon

This priest’s more immediate boss is Francis Cardinal George, Archbishop of Chicago. You might be interested in the Cardinal’s public statement about Pfleger. It appears that Pfleger is on a short leash now.

Here is the text:

STATEMENT OF FRANCIS CARDINAL GEORGE, O.M.I.,
ARCHBISHOP OF CHICAGO
Friday, May 30, 2008

Statement of Cardinal Francis George concerning remarks of
Fr. Michael Pfleger about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton during an address at Trinity United Church of Christ on Sunday May 25, 2008

The Catholic Church does not endorse political candidates. Consequently, while a priest must speak to political issues that are also moral, he may not endorse candidates nor engage in partisan campaigning.

Racial issues are both political and moral and are also highly charged. Words can be differently interpreted, but Fr. Pfleger’s remarks about Senator Clinton are both partisan and amount to a personal attack. I regret that deeply.

To avoid months of turmoil in the church, Fr. Pfleger has promised me that he will not enter into campaigning, will not publicly mention any candidate by name and will abide by the discipline common to all Catholic priests.

Source: http://www.archdiocese-chgo.org/


69 posted on 06/01/2008 10:24:48 PM PDT by Tex_GOP_Cruz
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As an Illinois State Senator, Obama funneled a $100,000.00
state pork grant to Pfleger’s church. Obama obviously shares Pfleger’s world-view. Oh, and Pfleger reciprocated, with cash donations to Obama’s campaigns and political support from the pulpit.
70 posted on 06/01/2008 10:42:29 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: LdSentinal
Guys like this give Catholic priests a bad name.

This guy was entrenched in his parish before Cardinal George took over and he's apparently really well connected to local politicians. Given who he is and the outrageous things he's saying, he may also have a lot of dirt on people in the Archdiocese of Chicago. The previous Cardinal (Bernadin) was homo-friendly to say the least. Poor Cardinal George walked into a lavender hornets' nest when he took over that see.
71 posted on 06/01/2008 10:49:08 PM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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To: Tex_GOP_Cruz
Ummm, I don't think this letter reflects the Priest's comments at all.

Maybe the Archbishop did not hear the entire “sermon”?

It appears that he may have heard a news report about insulting Hillary or something, surely he did not hear the parts about whites raping black people still, and how whites have to pay for their deeds?

No way did he hear that part, or this Priest would be out on his ear, the Catholic Church would not put up with such bigotry and hatred being agitated from the pulpit.

Its very dangerous for parishioners and their children who have trust in the Church.

Someone from Chicago needs to inform his superiors right away.

Are you from Chicago?

72 posted on 06/01/2008 10:53:40 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Antoninus
We need to give the Cardinal's "Office of Racial Justice" a call tomorrow, from his letter admonishing the racist Priest, I gather he did not hear his entire “sermon”, or he would be fired on the spot.

http://www.dwellinmylove.org/top_office_for_racial_justice.htm

The core mission of the Office is to address the sin of racism by providing parishes and schools with the tools to initiate and enhance their efforts to combat racism. Cardinal Francis George, O.M.I., established the Office for Racial Justice July 1, 2000. The Office is a direct outgrowth from the Archdiocese of Chicago’s Task Force on Racism as a response to the beating of Lenard Clark in 1997.

The Archdiocese of Chicago will
Acknowledge that racism is a sin that has created a racist society in which the dominant culture benefits.

Encourage Catholic to search their own hearts on the questions of how the sin of racism has touched them.

Guide parishes to proclaim the gospel message that stresses our unity, and design pastoral responses that will help combat the sin of racism.

Create educational opportunities in schools and parishes that will uncover the truth about racism in America and in our local communities while providing the means to bring about healing.

Stimulate church involvement in community initiatives addressing issues of racial justice.

For General Information

Office for Racial Justice

312-751-8336

Workshops on Racism & Ethnic Sensitivity

312-751-5380

Initiatives are driven by three principles:
A call to change attitudes and behaviors that will lead to a conversion of heart and reconciliation among peoples of every ethnic and cultural background.

A commitment to take concrete, visible steps to dismantle personal and systemic racism.

To witness through our lives and actions the unconditional love of God for all human beings regardless of their racial, religious, or national origin.
This recommendation is made the understanding that the archdiocese must combat racism in a manner consistent with the mission of the local church. Accordingly, we see that this commitment connects integrally with the Archdiocese's evangelization efforts in the new millennium.

Send mail to ajuarez@archchicago.org with questions or comments about this web site.
Copyright © 2007 Office for Racial Justice, Archdiocese of Chicago

73 posted on 06/01/2008 11:05:21 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: roses of sharon
That's all well and good. Yes, the laity absolutely should be up in arms about Fr. Pfleger. But my suspicion is that the Cardinal has known this guy is a major problem for years and doesn't get rid of him because he can't. Pfleger's probably got reams of dirt on all kinds of people all over Chicago and across the country that he's threatened to release if anyone tries to take any real action against him.

That's how the lavender mafia works. Fr. Paul Shanley, one of the worst child abusers in the country, used exactly this tactic on Cardinal Law in Boston.
74 posted on 06/01/2008 11:13:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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To: LdSentinal

mark


75 posted on 06/01/2008 11:13:56 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
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To: Antoninus
Yikes, I had no idea.

Does the Pope know of this “lavender mafia”? Surely he does not.

Maybe someone in Rome needs to know, so they can inform him?And he can fire Priests and whomever Pfleger has dirt on, correct?

76 posted on 06/01/2008 11:22:57 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: highimpact
but every living soul within those countries continue to sin. The "greatest sin among God," according to God, (Proverbs 6:16-19), "These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, a lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren."

Right on.

Also, Jesus said in John 3:17 NIV;
"For God did not send His son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him."
This doesn't sounds like these "Goda**n/God condemn America" sermons coming from this so call church.

Romans 10;12 NIV;
"For there is no difference between Jew or Gentile, the same Lord is Lord of them ALL, and richly blesses ALL who call upon Him."
I would think this would apply to any differences between "whitey" and "Afro-Americans".

It would seem Rev. Pfleger, along with Rev. Wright, and Trinity Church need to seek the Lord for His help to rightly divide the Word of God, and to get to know, to experience Christ's loving, servant heart.
Rev. Pfleger's words, and Rev Wright's, in my opinion, do not reflect Jesus, and they certainly do not belong in Christian Church's pulpit.
It would seem they need to cease being "hirelings" and go get real jobs.
77 posted on 06/01/2008 11:40:44 PM PDT by mstar
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To: roses of sharon; Antoninus

Yeah, I agree. This guy Pfleger is way beyond the pale. I think he should be reassigned to where he is away from the public, because it’s clear he cannot handle being a pastor.

I’m a Texan, so not from the Archdiocese of Chicago. Thanks to Antoninus for shedding some light on the situation there for us. I would not expect Rome to step in.


78 posted on 06/01/2008 11:52:32 PM PDT by Tex_GOP_Cruz
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To: LdSentinal
The right Reverend ought to be thinking about that Scripture where the Lord "spews them out of His Mouth", because with a name so close to phlegm, he is DEFINITELY pushing his luck!
79 posted on 06/02/2008 12:23:11 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romania had the Ceausescus, America has the Clintons.)
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To: ZULU

“Beating him will be like taking candy from a kid.”

No it will be like beating a rented mule.

No, it will be like beating a red-headed stepchild.


80 posted on 06/02/2008 2:32:30 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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