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1 posted on 06/02/2008 5:11:42 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd; wagglebee

Ping to you.

Insurance companies do not you to have kids. They want you to pay into the system until you need it, and then die quietly and quickly.

When euthanasia becomes widespread in the US it will be because of insurance. Be it private or socialized.


2 posted on 06/02/2008 5:14:31 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: shrinkermd

Blatant discrimination against babies. Keep this nonsence up and the US will be as sterile and doomed as Europe.


3 posted on 06/02/2008 5:15:34 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: nnn0jeh

crappy insurance ping


4 posted on 06/02/2008 5:17:18 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: shrinkermd
This is what Marx meant when he said that Capitalism is doomed; that it would pass through socialism into communism.

Of course, it was necessary to de-moralize a people first. Because with a moral foundation, of course, no such thing would happen to Capitalism.

But absent the moral foundation, it is frighteningly efficient at bringing about the minifestations of communism and the cult of death and totalitarianism.

5 posted on 06/02/2008 5:17:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Obama's a front man. Who's behind him?)
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To: shrinkermd

They have already come for the smokers,drinkers, drug users, now women at high risk pregnancies, obese is next.

The only high risk class they won’t bother is the butt banging men class.


7 posted on 06/02/2008 5:19:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: shrinkermd

Depopulation policy, generally unarticulated, may be the driving force behind such policies as well as the culturally ‘sudden’ gay and lesbian advocacy movements of the last 40 years. In Scotland, there is a report today of hospitals giving OR priority time for abortions at the expense of the availability of ORs for maternity services.


8 posted on 06/02/2008 5:21:43 PM PDT by givemELL
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To: shrinkermd
New Golden Rule: Do unto others, then split.

Seriously, most insurances have decision making policies that are only a little less worse than this. It's part of the driving force behind universal health care, a/k/a socialized medicine. We've got to use market forces to drive the shoddy operators out of business, so that the other providers stay somewhat honest (and in business).

11 posted on 06/02/2008 5:31:25 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: shrinkermd

I thought Goden RUle was supposed to support Christian Values (hence the name). Sheesh! Here in Illinois, the Catholic hospital got OUT ofthe med insurance business because the state is making them cover things they cannot cover.


12 posted on 06/02/2008 5:32:25 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: shrinkermd

Yet another company/industry that has no clue what its actions are doing. I’ll tell them: making people angry and making government invent more laws and regulations that they complain about.

Police yourselves and you won’t need police.


13 posted on 06/02/2008 5:33:33 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: shrinkermd
Health care is not a right, and neither is health insurance. That said, my main problem with this form of voluntary sterilization is that, combined with Medicaid, it would lead to terrible effects on differential fertility. People who add value to society will have themselves sterilized, while the parasites continue to reproduce (even more than this is already happening). Not good.

IMO, mandatory health practitioner licensing needs to be eliminated, which will lead to the availability of lower-quality (but more widely affordable) health care options, which are currently eliminated from the market by regulations. The ugly truth is that regulations are responsible for pricing health-care out of the reach of many Americans - the minimum qualifications and standards are so high that affordable health-care delivery for many individuals is impossible. Look especially at legal fees and insurance costs doctors are forced to cover because contract law regulations are so perverse. Strict fidelity to contractual agreements would render health-care more affordable IMMEDIATELY.

The process could be taken further by next expanding the functions that nurses and other medical support staff, as well as pharmacists, can legally perform. This is especially true of federal regulations - having an American health-care oasis state would do a heck of a lot of good for downward harmonization.

People want to have the best of all worlds, and it is simply not possible. Something has to give, be it average affordability (too many regulations), average quality (laissez-faires policies), or average speed of service delivery (socialist policies). I'd err on the side of liberty, against compulsory collectivism.

17 posted on 06/02/2008 6:40:38 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: shrinkermd

I had my share of dealings with Golden Rule.

As far as they are concerned, contractual obligations work in one direction only.

It would have been cheaper for me to pay a high class escort to screw me.


18 posted on 06/02/2008 6:46:40 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: wagglebee

Would this fall under the Pro-Life or Moral Absolutes ping?


19 posted on 06/02/2008 8:02:14 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: shrinkermd
Hints of Wannsee here, I think.


22 posted on 06/02/2008 9:13:36 PM PDT by rdb3 (Upward, onward, beyond...)
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To: shrinkermd

>>either do not issue medically underwritten policies
>> or charge substantially higher premiums to women
>>who have undergone Caesarean deliveries.

That’s very interesting, given the apparent predisposition towards performing Caesareans instead of natural child birth.

I guess you either need to be an illegal alien or wealthy enough not to need insurance these days; if you want to have more than one child.


24 posted on 06/02/2008 11:50:22 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


27 posted on 06/03/2008 6:18:31 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: shrinkermd

No one, absolutely no one can make sensible excuses for the individual health insurance market in most states. Yea, a 20 year old with NO health history can buy a plan for $50 bucks; so what? Many still don’t buy it.

My industry is just handing ammo to the single payer folks in attempting maintain this ridiculous status quo.

However, this market is easy to reform if someone really wanted to. You could pool people or better yet, pool certain claims and conditions to make nearly everyone acceptable and underwritable while setting up strong competition that would hold down prices.

Unfortunately, I have found Democratic lawmakers extremely hostile to any solution involving reforms to the private market. They prefer to use the disfunctional individual market as a club to beat the industry with. So far, we deserve every bit of it.


30 posted on 06/03/2008 7:58:18 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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