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To: Saundra Duffy
I just can’t get over it that some FReepers were pro-raid and rounding up all the children at gunpoint. It just blows my mind.

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Same here.

I was surprised to see some posts by FReepers who over the past years I have come to admire for their cool savvy.

But I guess these cool savvy FReepers let their hatred of a cult overload their ability to realize that if the Texas CPS can do it to the cult they dang sure would do it to anyone that got into their way.

Not only that, these people in the eyes of Texas authorities had their civil rights given under the Constitution trampled by sweet young social workers wearing jack boots and armed with oppressive laws.

I do hope that some politicians will take up the cause of these over zealous folks and even the playing field for parents.

63 posted on 06/05/2008 11:35:51 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. ABORTION-The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

let me tell you.

if you questioned any of this one iota then you were smeared as a defender of child rape and so forth

maybe the vilest retorts on and on I’ve ever seen here in 8 years....just insane accusatory stuff ad nauseum

underneath much of it is open anti-Mormonsim, subtle or not so subtle female venting over women being submissive to odd religious practices...or worse

and some well meaning freepers who just let their emotions go to their head.

i alwasy said I figured it would go Short Creek and that consent law violations would be about it....period....not condoning or approving and alway qualifying about welfare fraud and lost boys though I read just recently there is no welfare at Eldorado...not sure if true.

but man....the salacious stuff running thru this.....8 year old brides, baby sacrifices and hidden murders and so forth....just wild stuff....it went on and on

run it all down best you can and try to reply and if the strident didn’t like your evidence they’s just name call and move on.

in the end...here we are....basically Short Creek again


65 posted on 06/05/2008 11:49:23 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama will bring the Second Reconstruction to America.......I can't wait, the first was a blast)
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To: OKIEDOC

It’s hatred of child abuse and sexual abuse.

The laws concerning abuse must be enforced to protect the abused. No ifs, ands, or buts.

The laws concerning age of consent and marriage must be enforced when girls such as Jeff’s 16 year old daughter are brought to the attention of authorities. Otherwise, we have no marriage laws in Texas, and will lose the right to know when our daughters seek birth control or have an abortion.

I pushed for the standardization of our age of consent laws so that abortion clinics couldn’t claim the confusion over which abortions to report and whether girls needed parental notification — now consent.

I also lobbied for our Defense of Marriage Act becoming a State Constitutional amendment after the high-handed way so many judges and local officials in other States broke the law concerning marriage and we had a same sex couple try to get their Vermont civil union dissolved - and property settlements - in Texas courts. That amendment passed with 72% of the vote.


66 posted on 06/05/2008 11:53:09 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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