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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is news? Like any culture, shit happens when humans are involved.


2 posted on 06/06/2008 11:00:55 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet
Earlier discussion:

The Air Force Purge

6 posted on 06/06/2008 11:07:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: A Navy Vet

Are you saying, “Off we go into the wild Blue Yawner”???AF Retiree....


7 posted on 06/06/2008 11:08:47 PM PDT by ONEBYEONE
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I think if someone grew up with the Air Force of the 1970s...and then came to view the Air Force of 2008...they would be totally shocked at the leadership, the vision, the change-the-change-to-the-change mentality, and the business-like management style of today. Companies used to come out to Air Force bases in the 1960s and 1970s...to see how to run a smooth operation. The Air Force gave up and started making tours of civilian operations in the mid-90s and have lost a tremendous amount of creativity...working on creating “centers of excellence” which are mere shadows of what we had twenty years ago.

Across the entire Air Force...they’ve got a broad spectrum of senior NCOs and officers who simply don’t know how their office, division or operation functions. There are senior NCOs out there who haven’t functioned in the shoes of their airman for more than fifteen years. The junior enlisted get daily sessions of “moral direction” rather than train on accomplishing an impossible mission. I can remember exercises in the early 80s that were rigged up for 150 percent of what you’d face...which you couldn’t possibly accomplish everything...yet you learned how to prioritize and set an achievable goal with what you could do. Today...they plan an exercise, which is mostly scripted and like some kind of cake-walk...mainly because so many leaders don’t know that job or the operation.

I spent twenty-two years in the AF...and continual to work in some fashion outside the uniform today for them. The Secretary of the Defense is correct...there is something disconnected and not working right.


9 posted on 06/06/2008 11:13:08 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: A Navy Vet
This is news? Like any culture, shit happens when humans are involved.

The common folk should not be hearing this. Can't it be hushed up.

67 posted on 06/07/2008 2:32:39 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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