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1 posted on 06/08/2008 6:37:35 AM PDT by vietvet67
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Are Conservatives Dead or Resting?

We'll know after the election. If they're dead, they'd have voted for Obama.

2 posted on 06/08/2008 6:39:08 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Obama's a front man. Who's behind him?)
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They’re not dead, they’re just pining for the fjords.


3 posted on 06/08/2008 6:41:10 AM PDT by MichiganMan (So you bought that big vehicle and now want to whine about how much it costs to fill it? Seriously?)
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For now.... Dead

Like the Demos were dead 4 years ago with Kerry/Edwards who had little new ideas except to oppose the republicans.

It’ll take a leader like Reagan to bring conservatives back. How long that’ll take no one knows.


4 posted on 06/08/2008 6:42:12 AM PDT by guinness4strength
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So off they went to sow division in the Democratic Party, using a politics of "positive polarization." It "ensured that American politics would be an ugly, unredeemed business for decades to come."

LBJ's 1964 tv ad campaign showed KKK klansmen burning crosses and tried to link them to Goldwater.

LBJ's 1964 tv ad campaign showed a small child pulling the petals off a daisy and suddenly being killed in a nuclear holocaust by the goony Goldwater.

Yeah, 1966 was WHEN politics turned "ugly".

Sell that story someplace else.

6 posted on 06/08/2008 6:45:27 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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Conservative are neither dead nor resting. They have been betrayed forgotten ignored and abandoned ... at the GOP’s peril. If we didn’t have such a dangerous Marxist asshat running on the other side who IMO MUST be kept out of the WH at all costs ... a third party would be in order


7 posted on 06/08/2008 6:45:42 AM PDT by clamper1797 (GWB was shock and awe ... Nobama is shuck and jive)
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Not dead. Just preparing for battle with which ever liberal is elected.


8 posted on 06/08/2008 6:46:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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I’m not Dead or Resting. I’m just tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!


9 posted on 06/08/2008 6:47:58 AM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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It all depends on the definition of "conservative". I consider myself a conservative, but I am more of a conservatarian. This means I am conservative on law and order - national security, but a social libertarian. The modern conservative movement has been split by some social conservatives who want to establish a theocracy, or big govt social conservatism, and those who believe in Federalism. The American public will not tolerate any one wanting to establish a theocracy.
11 posted on 06/08/2008 6:49:04 AM PDT by Perdogg (McCain for President, 2008)
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We are broken right now. A ship without a rudder.


12 posted on 06/08/2008 6:49:10 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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If you look back over the last 30 years, back over the record of conservative reform, there is one thing that stands out. Conservative reform never had a chance unless there was a crisis.

True enough. But the difference is that the last time "conservatives" were called on in a crisis they failed to help and they got cast back into the wilderness. So now, not all Americans trust that they will do what they say and Democrats point to Bill Clinton as the example of Democratic "budget balancing".

So we have a hard row to hoe.

If conservatives are ever given the chance again....they better actually do what they say and not just take over the Democratic power levers and perks like they did last time.
14 posted on 06/08/2008 6:51:16 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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The article believes that Senator McCain will hold the line on domestic issues. The article is mistaken.

Senator McCain’s support for the recently shelved Lieberman Warner Climate Security bill tells me Sen. McCain is left to far left on domestic issues.

Even President Bush, who has allowed government spending to go unchecked, threatened to veto Lieberman Warner.

Senator McCain’s support of Lieberman/Warner was enough to cost him my vote. It was the proverbial last straw.


15 posted on 06/08/2008 6:52:48 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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It's been quite obvious conservatives don't make their politics their religion like liberals and moderates do. What is always worrisome is do an adequate amount of us care enough to not only stop the left, but carry conservatism forward? And in this past 13 years when conservatives had the chance to put down liberalism for a good long while they caved into it.

It's not the liberals who destroy conservative thought, it's the moderates and rino's within our own party. And if repubs keep voting and embrasing these progressive social ideas and with canidates who hold them, liberals will win the day.

Many Conservatives are realy just politically lazy.

20 posted on 06/08/2008 6:59:18 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Yes, Chef!)
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Dead - just like Fred.

Just think - we coulda had Mitt - but noooooooo, wasted days and wasted nights waiting for another Ronny.

It’s true, you get the govt you deserve.


26 posted on 06/08/2008 7:03:56 AM PDT by baclava
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Dead - just like Fred.

Just think - we coulda had Mitt - but noooooooo, wasted days and wasted nights waiting for another Ronny.

It’s true, you get the govt you deserve.


27 posted on 06/08/2008 7:03:57 AM PDT by baclava
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Conservatives don’t have a dog in this fight.


28 posted on 06/08/2008 7:05:28 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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conservatives may revitalize about 2017.


30 posted on 06/08/2008 7:06:21 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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32 posted on 06/08/2008 7:08:50 AM PDT by Popman
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The Conservative movement is on life support. Conservatives are making plans for a long period of pain.


41 posted on 06/08/2008 7:19:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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Over the years this meme seems to have become all-consuming and all-explaining for our Democratic friends. On the net there are hundreds of liberals for whom politics is defined by the Democrats' support of civil rights versus the Republicans' racist Southern Strategy. In Nixonland: The Rise of a President and the Fracturing of America Rick Pearlstein tells us that today's divisive politics is all the result of Richard Nixon's cunning rise to power. We are the divided nation that Nixon created.

it's the problem with allowing political enemies to write the history and then imposing the lie by endless repetition. It ignores the fact that Viet Nam fractured the Democrats in that same era, southerners being more capable of seeing that anti-anti communism was pro communist than the elite classes like this guy's first boss. Go on to the divide over abortion and you have a more viable and wholly racially -free explanation of the conservative values victories in the south.

47 posted on 06/08/2008 7:32:32 AM PDT by gusopol3
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We’re not quite dead yet, just in suspended animation.


50 posted on 06/08/2008 7:35:12 AM PDT by mass55th
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