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38% rise in Indian students going to the US
The Times of India ^ | 9 June, 2008 | Daniel P George & Hemali Chhapia

Posted on 06/08/2008 3:40:57 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick

America continues to grow in stature as the most-favoured destination for Indian students with the last seven months showing a 38% increase in the number of candidates going there.

What's more, Chennai seems to be one of the largest exporters in the country.

Sample this: 38,274 student visas were issued from across the country in fiscal year 2006-07 (October 2006 to September 2007), of which the Chennai consulate gave out 19,973.

Correspondingly, between October 2007 and April 2008, 50,316 student visas were issued from across the country, of which the Chennai consulate alone accounted for 24,975.

With a rising middle class in India able to afford American university programmes and schools actively recruiting them, Indians have become the largest group of international students in the US.

Experts point that the increase in the flow of Indian students could also be reasoned to America now accepting the three-year bachelor degree programme as a valid one for entry to their graduate schools.

Earlier, the US accepted students in its graduate schools only after they completed 16 years of formal education (12+4). Indian students were required to study one year of post-graduation before they could take any entrance test to American universities. The change in rule was targeted towards opening the doors of higher studies in American varsities to a massive Indian pool of BA, BCom, BSc degree holders.

According to the data released in November 2007, the international student population in the US rose from 5.64 lakh in 2005-'06 to 5.83 lakh in 2006-'07. And for the sixth year in a row, Indian students accounted for the largest chunk.

Following a 5% drop last year, the flow of Indian students to the US has gone up by 10% in this academic season.

According to a recent survey that monitors student flow, the population of Indian students in the US went up by 10% from 76,503 in 2005-'06 to 83,833 in 2006-'07; the number has doubled in the last decade.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academia; aliens; college; foreignstudents; highereducation; immigrantlist; india; university; us
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To: BBell
Well, Central New Jersey has the highest concentration of Indians in the United States (especially the Route 1 corridor from Colonia through Princeton). You don't see any living off the government teat, nor do you see their children getting drunk on the weekends and caring more about "football" than their studies.
21 posted on 06/09/2008 2:00:58 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: rightwinggoth
yep, these guys and chinese nationals will be hard at work making sure our nuclear power plants run safely without fear of sabotage or terrorist attack

India, the larget democracy in the world, is on our side in the war against Islamic extremists. During the cold war they were aligned with the Soviets while we nuked up Pakistan, but those days are over.

22 posted on 06/09/2008 2:12:11 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: BBell

That little guy on the left looks like he has potential, too!


23 posted on 06/09/2008 2:13:56 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Clemenza
Just always remember. Bobby Jindal is an American first. He has always been forward about this. He loves this Country and the opportunity's it provides. He is no whiney hyphenated American.
24 posted on 06/09/2008 2:29:22 AM PDT by BBell
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To: Clemenza
FWIW Clemenza, my child made it into the specialized HS program in NYC, an all honors, engineering program. Most of the freshman class at orientation was white. The breakout from largest to smallest demographics was: White (Vanilla American), White Russian, Chinese, Korean, Indian, others (Black, Hispanic, etc.).
25 posted on 06/09/2008 2:55:56 AM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Woodman

More curry scent in Super 8 lobbies.


26 posted on 06/09/2008 2:59:30 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

I don’t know many students who stay at Super 8’s.


27 posted on 06/09/2008 4:34:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

“I don’t know many students who stay at Super 8’s.”

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Wait ‘till they get all their relatives over.


28 posted on 06/09/2008 6:03:39 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

Can’t do that on a student visa. Nice try.


29 posted on 06/09/2008 6:04:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

The relatives will begin to manage the Super 8s


30 posted on 06/09/2008 6:06:08 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

Oh, so they’ll come in on Investor visas? Great. We need more.


31 posted on 06/09/2008 6:07:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: muleskinner
Males in India are encouraged to take the hard sciences, they know that’s how to improve India, make their parents proud, and make good dough

And why should males, or females, in the U.S. be encouraged to take hard science, since those jobs are going overseas to improve India?

32 posted on 06/09/2008 6:11:17 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 1rudeboy
In 1992 I was aware of a Chinese student who was using student visas not only for himself, but also to get his girlfriend out of China, where they intended to meet up, “marry,” and remain in the States permanently.

When having our passports renewed in Hong Kong, I mentioned this to a consular official. He smiled at me and stated that the State Department already calculates the percentage of Asians (and others) using student visas in an attempt to permanently remain in the States, and to also get family members to the States, and the percentage is quite high, and “often they do manage to get away with it.”

33 posted on 06/09/2008 6:13:42 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
Here let me help you: you cannot use your student visa to "get" someone else into the United States. If they separately get another student visa, and you (or both you and the other) overstay your student visas, that is an entirely different issue.

In other words, your comment about the Super 8's with regard to this article? Just BS.

34 posted on 06/09/2008 6:29:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Or if he or she gets a tourist visa . . . which is probably what you observed. A Chinese student here legally on his student visa, with a girlfriend trying to get another student visa (or tourist visa to come visit), with the plan of both overstaying and becoming illegal aliens.


35 posted on 06/09/2008 6:32:55 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
You are correct that they can NOT use the student visa or its processes to apply to have any one else enter the States. But VERY MANY do use the student visas to get there themselves with the intention of NEVER going home, and they often are able to manipulate the system once in the States, and then they work on getting others to join them. Sorry I didn't leave a long open parenthesis in one of my sentences. It happens. It is admitted by consular staff at embassies abroad who interview applicants.

They have a tough interview process to try to cull this out, but it often does not work. I have sat with consular officials in Manila about this very thing. I was asked to come in one time when they were investigating men who were using “religious worker” visas (another fiasco), and had these difficulties explained to me by consular staff.

No, they can't use the student visa to get a single soul in to the USA. But many have long range deceitful intentions of which the student visa, or religious worker visa, or other visas are used as a first step.

The Super 8 comment was a reference to the dozens of motels we stay in (as we must do a whole lot of traveling when in the States), and you can tell (in a general category) who is managing the motel from the spice scent that grabs one when approaching the registration desk. And it is not meant to be derogatory, actually, just a matter of fact.

36 posted on 06/09/2008 6:46:57 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: 1rudeboy
” . . . manipulate the system once in the States, . . .”

I shouldn't say “once in the States,” as that sounds too immediate. I should say, once they have been in the States long enough to learn the ropes, learn how to hide for a while after they have over-stayed their visas, and have found the loop-holes in the immigrations system.

In the case of the the Chinese man of whom I was very personally aware, he worked with the girl, and both got separate visas, obviously without the US Embassy in Beijing able to make any personal connection between the two. The man, who was a student of mine for more than two years, told me seriously, thinking I wouldn't care, that he and the girl intended to procreate in the States, make an anchor baby, and never go back to China. It was a business arrangement between them.

Having first-hand knowledge of the plot, and knowing I had to be in Hong Kong within days of hearing his plan, I intended to turn the man and his “business partner” in to the authorities. I did report it. That's when the Consulate in HK informed me that they already figure a percentage of people who have just such (and many other kinds of) intentions. They were not even interested in taking the man's name.

37 posted on 06/09/2008 7:02:31 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

Visa overstays are a huge problem. No question about that.


38 posted on 06/09/2008 7:23:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Woodman

It must not have been Bronx Science, which is heavily Korean and Chinese, with many of the white kids being Jewish.


39 posted on 06/09/2008 8:22:15 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: John Leland 1789
“The man, who was a student of mine for more than two years, told me seriously, thinking I wouldn't care, that he and the girl intended to procreate in the States, make an anchor baby, and never go back to China. It was a business arrangement between them.”

If two aliens procreate in the United States and have a citizen baby, that does not mean they get to stay in the United States. The baby won't help them at all until he or she turns twenty one, at which point the baby could then apply for visas to get his or her parents in. If a foreign student marries a citizen, that's a different matter, but making a baby with another foreigner won't keep him in this country.

40 posted on 06/09/2008 11:47:44 AM PDT by TKDietz
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