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Decision coming June 16, next big day in Haditha case
Defend Our Marines ^ | June 9, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 06/09/2008 6:32:39 PM PDT by RedRover

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To: jude24
I'm a commissioned officer of the United States. You do not call me "boy." I've earned that respect.

Not meaning any disrespect, but generally speaking, once a commissioned officer of the United States, a Marine, or even a lowly old FReeper has earned respect, they don't need to wear it on their shoulder for other's to notice.

You might want to jot that down in your blackberry for further reference.

61 posted on 06/10/2008 3:58:07 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org freeevanvela.com)
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To: RedRover
“The prosecution made a colossal blunder not calling Lt. Gen. Helland to testify,” opined Thompson, who presides over the Ann Arbor-based Thomas More Law Center. “Folsom has already decided there is evidence of inappropriate command influence and it is now the prosecution’s burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it didn’t occur. Without Helland’s testimony to corroborate Mattis they failed to meet that burden.”

Any takers on a bet that the prosecutors were told to not call Helland? Protecting Helland is more important than working for a (an unjust) coviction against Chessani?

62 posted on 06/10/2008 4:05:29 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: 4woodenboats; Lancey Howard

What you guys pickin’ on the blind guy for?


63 posted on 06/10/2008 4:07:43 PM PDT by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: jude24
I'm a commissioned officer of the United States. You do not call me "boy." I've earned that respect.

You are still pretty young, and just a bit too naive concerning unethical lawyers; including prosecutors and judges. A few years in the real world of practicing law and you will understand and appreciate many of the comments about the prosecutors in these cases.

The real world is not like your law school professors portrayed it.

64 posted on 06/10/2008 4:14:08 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: lilycicero

Darling, you’re in yellow!


65 posted on 06/10/2008 4:28:29 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: SeaHawkFan

What are they protecting Helland from?

You mean holding on until he gets his next star and someone else is the convening authority?

The way they been dragging this thing out, no telling who the Gestapo thug running the circus will be when the big top folds in Haditha and moves on to the next town.


66 posted on 06/10/2008 5:25:37 PM PDT by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: jude24
I'm a commissioned officer of the United States.

I don't even know what that means, but you won't earn any respect by breezing into a thread and calling somebody "prejudiced" and "ignorant" because that person has closely followed a disgraceful case like Haditha and voiced his opinion.

I'm well aware that there are plenty of JAG lawyers who have integrity and a solid moral compass even as they work hard to do their jobs to the best of their abilities - - in the fair pursuit of justice.

That has not been the case with the prosecutors and investigators in the Haditha mess (as well as some other cases) and if you don't understand that, then you haven't been paying attention. Go get yourself up to speed before you get your underpants in a twist. RedRover's site, 'Defend Our Marines' has all the information you could hope for. You should check it out.

67 posted on 06/10/2008 5:33:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover
an article in the July issue of “Chicago” magazine ...
and I got dragged into it

WOW Red, you are just getting too fancy for us little folks. First Google and now "Chicago" what next?

LOL! Congrats my FRiend. You have certainly earned some recognition for all your hard work.

68 posted on 06/10/2008 5:38:33 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: jude24
Have you ever met an actual JAG lawyer...

I have! We have dinner occasionally. He thinks the Haditha trials are a BAD joke. You ought to hear what he had to say about Abutt Grab. He was ON that mess.

69 posted on 06/10/2008 5:41:03 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: RedRover

Does ‘Chicago’ have on-line content? I would like to see that article, too.


70 posted on 06/10/2008 5:41:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bigheadfred
the Gestapo thug running the circus

I just love it when you talk sweet to us!!!

LOL!

71 posted on 06/10/2008 5:44:45 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Lancey Howard; bigheadfred

Yes, though I guess the magazine comes out before they put it online. Same with the Evan Vela story. I thought it’d be online today but wasn’t last I looked.


72 posted on 06/10/2008 5:51:04 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Just A Nobody

We’ll see. I have no idea what they said! (This is the article they called Kristinn about.)


73 posted on 06/10/2008 5:53:24 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo

BTW, I call dibs on the light beige umbrella with the beach chair!


74 posted on 06/10/2008 5:57:22 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover
D'oh! I almost forgot about that!
This getting old is getting on my nerves.

old woman

75 posted on 06/10/2008 6:05:20 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: RedRover

We’ll get to the article in good time. I’m still digesting. I can tell you that the Appeal may take awhile. They are still trying to get a Record of Trial. So it isn’t in the hands of the appellate attorney yet. But I’ll talk about that later.


76 posted on 06/10/2008 6:17:48 PM PDT by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: Just A Nobody; smoothsailing; jazusamo; Lancey Howard; Grimmy; 4woodenboats; brityank; ...
LOL! Speaking of age, a friend sent this to me and thought it was worth sharing...

__________________________

New Direction for War on Terrorists: Send Service Vets over 60

I am over 60 and the Armed Forces think I am too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing backasswards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join the military until you're at least 35.

For starters:

Researchers say 18-year olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys think about sex only a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.

Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry. We are impatient and maybe letting us kill someone that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for a while.

An 18-year old doesn't even like to get up before 10am. Old guys always get up early to pee so what the hell. Besides, like I said, I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be killing some fanatical terrorist.

If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at, and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course, however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any push ups after completing basic training. I can hear the drill sgt in the NEW army now, "get down and give me....ER...one."

Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start up a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head.

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them into harm's way.

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see right now is a couple of million pissed-off old farts with attitude and automatic weapons who know their best years are already behind them.

If nothing else, put us on border patrol and plant grass. We're very good at keeping people off our lawn. We will have it secured the first night!

77 posted on 06/10/2008 6:23:23 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

THAT is a classic! Bookmarked.


78 posted on 06/10/2008 6:57:16 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing

LOL! I think the old boy has a pretty good idea, Red. All of us better start doing that one pushup a day to get in shape.

BTW, you can have all the unmrellas, I’m going out on the yacht with Smooth. :)


79 posted on 06/10/2008 7:02:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Lancey Howard; lilycicero

Lily sent it to me, and it makes me smile everytime I read it. I don’t know the source.


80 posted on 06/10/2008 7:11:50 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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