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The Buzz about Barack’s Birth Certificate
michellemalkin.com ^ | June 10, 2008 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 06/10/2008 10:11:40 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: BertWheeler
Was that gaffe regarding 57 states a mistake?

Obama and the 57 States on youTube

Isn’t 57 the number of recognized Islamic states in the world?


161 posted on 06/10/2008 12:12:23 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: usmcobra; Jeff Head

Jeff, did you see post #94???


162 posted on 06/10/2008 12:13:27 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: beezdotcom

I had already neverd minded.


163 posted on 06/10/2008 12:15:31 PM PDT by ASA Vet (http://www.nrapublications.org/oj/McCain.asp)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Still waiting to see that “baptismal certificate”.


164 posted on 06/10/2008 12:15:39 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: usmcobra
If Obama's adoptive step father secured for him Indonesian citizenship as part of the adoption process and Obama traveled under Indonesian documents to the United States his US citizenship would automatically have been revoked if he didn't reaffirm it at eighteen.

I have a question. Would the US government notify some one of that requirement just before the person turned 18, or would he have had to remember on his own?

Maybe it's not so much what is ON the birth certificate, but where that information could lead.

165 posted on 06/10/2008 12:17:27 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

I didn’t know until now that an adopted person would have a new birth certificate at adoption. It makes sense, but I’d never thought about it before. Was Barack adopted by the Indonesian father? Does the new adoptive father then get his name on the birth certificate as if he had been there the year and date the child is born (conceived)?


166 posted on 06/10/2008 12:21:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: colinhester

Another FReeper said today that he called the relevant office in 2004, and was told they don’t bother to check these things.

I’m sorry, I don’t remember who said it.


167 posted on 06/10/2008 12:21:26 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: malia

If he was born in Hawaii in 1961, then he is a natural born US citizen. The other rules only apply if he is born abroad (like in Kenya as some assert) to a single US citizen parent (his mom in this case).


168 posted on 06/10/2008 12:22:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: freespirited

“My best guess is that his parents were not legally married.”

If that were true, that would make him a real “Bastid”.


169 posted on 06/10/2008 12:23:04 PM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: usmcobra
If Obama's adoptive step father secured for him Indonesian citizenship as part of the adoption process

Ok, I'm confused. If he was adopted by his mother's second husband, why is his name Obama? Did he legally changed it back to his biological father's name at some point?

170 posted on 06/10/2008 12:23:55 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: HawaiianGecko

ROFLOL!


171 posted on 06/10/2008 12:24:39 PM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee) ( Born in the South and raised in a G_D centered home)
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To: fanfan; usmcobra; Jack Black; sitetest
No, I dd not seen that. Another interesting twist and question.

Jack and test, did you see this info in POST 94 on this thread?

172 posted on 06/10/2008 12:24:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Yaelle
Does the new adoptive father then get his name on the birth certificate as if he had been there the year and date the child is born (conceived)?

Why change the facts of the original certificate? Can you just add an adoptive parent to an existing birth certificate?

It's not the same as an adoption certificate.

*confused*

173 posted on 06/10/2008 12:26:26 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

I can only speak from my experience. When we adopted our daughter, and after all legal requirements were completed, a new birth certificate was issued from the state where she was born (which was not the state we resided in) and we were listed as the parents.


174 posted on 06/10/2008 12:29:25 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: ASA Vet
I had already neverd minded.

And yet, you didn't 'nevermind' the 'nevermind'...fancy that.
175 posted on 06/10/2008 12:31:10 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: spanalot
That is killer stuff

Referring to post #43.

176 posted on 06/10/2008 12:31:10 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Jeff Head
Interesting.

From looking around the web, it does appear that the state of Hawaii provides a mechanism to verify information about a birth certificate without actually receiving a copy of the certificate:

Letters of Verification

Letters of verification may be issued in lieu of certified copies (HRS §338-14.3). This document verifies the existence of a birth/death/marriage/divorce certificate on file with the Department of Health and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event. (For example, that a certain named individual was born on a certain date at a certain place.) The verification process will not, however, disclose information about the vital event contained within the certificate that is unknown to and not provided by the applicant in the request.

Letters of verification are requested in similar fashion and using the same request forms as for certified copies.

The fee for a letter of verification is $5 per letter.

(http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html)

I would think that calling the Vital Records Office would be enough to get an explanation of how to write for verification that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., was born in the state of Hawaii on August 4th, 1961, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., and Ann Dunham. (The web page says "Letters of verification are requested in similar fashion and using the same request forms as for certified copies", but I didn't see anywhere on the provided PDFs to request verification rather than a certified copy, so I think that it might take a telephone call to ensure that the verification request is being done correctly.)

The end product would hopefully be that one gets a "yes" or "no" answer to the question from the Vital Records department.

177 posted on 06/10/2008 12:33:29 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: pbear8

I say we’ll probably see the birth certificate at the same time we see Bill Clinton’s Medical Records!!

And Jon Carry’s complete military records

Yep!!


178 posted on 06/10/2008 12:36:59 PM PDT by Primetimedonna ( It's SAN FRANCISCO, not Frisco. Charter member of the San Francisco Snowflakes)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I'm sure the Obama camp would immediately appeal to the US Supreme Court, citing some vague "always thought he was an American" excuse, just like the family story he always thought was true about his uncle.

Then the MSM will drum up support for calling it an archaic "technicality" that should be overruled by the USSC because of the immense popularity of Obama,

USSC literally could not rule on this as it is in black and white in the Constitution. There is ZERO wiggle room for interpretation on this.

179 posted on 06/10/2008 12:41:49 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Centurion2000
I don't trust the USSC to be so black-and-white anymore. I thought the eminent domain language was clear, but they found a way with Kelo to take your private property and give it to other private entities. What's to stop them from declaring someone eligible to be president for the common good, or by using the commerce clause, or other such emanation from a penumbra?

-PJ

180 posted on 06/10/2008 12:46:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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