The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith
Posted on 06/10/2008 1:38:12 PM PDT by blam
Yea Republican's with tusk's these day do seem to be in short supply
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith
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"The population was split into two groups, then one of the groups died out 45,000 years ago, long before the first humans began to appear in the region," said Stephan C. Schuster, associate professor of biochemistry and molecular biology at Penn State University and a leader of the research team. "This discovery is particularly interesting because it rules out human hunting as a contributing factor..." ...The bodies of these mammoths were found throughout a wide swathe of northern Siberia. Their dates of death span roughly 47,000 years, ranging from about 13,000 years ago to about 60,000 years ago... "This low genetic divergence is surprising because the woolly mammoth had an extraordinarily wide range: from Western Europe, to the Bering Strait in Siberia, to Northern America," Miller said... "Our study suggests a genetic divergence of the two woolly-mammoth groups more than 1-million years ago, which is one quarter the genetic distance that separates Indian and African elephants and woolly mammoths," Miller said.
I’ve been saying for a long time that the chances of man playing a major role in the extinction of mammoths are about as large as the chances of native Americans being able to drive the buffalo to extinction - without firearms and horses.
In other words, zero.
Yet another example of why these scientific theories should never be taken too seriously.
We've done a lot of damage in the last 6011 years, 7 months and 18 days.
Does this really need a sarcasm tag? *sigh* Yes...
Fresh mammoth tracks sighted in Canada in 1811
2. If they froze so quickly that they were preserved along with their food how quick did the climate have to change for this to happen? (My freezer does not do that)
The mammoths liked to feed in the periglacial areas. By being right up against the glaciers they were shielded fro the north winds, and the face of the glacier reflected sunlight back into the ground. The area near the glacier was much warmer than the surrounding tundra. It was well watered with melt water, and the soil was rich in minerals from the glacial till, and as loose as a well tended garden. Plants that are now exclusively tropical were better adapted to cold and variable day length.
Soooo, a mammoth feeds in the richest local environment, right up next to the glacier, and suddenly there's an avalanche instantly pounding the mammoth into the dirt and packing it in ice...
See post #32...
He found the tusk just below the surface,
after record heavy rains last summer.
It was extremely brittle,
so it may not have been ‘ivory’ quality.
I would compare the texture to dry plaster.
He tried to preserve it with expoxy.
From what I’ve heard,
it’s preferred to use water soluble glue.
So maybe it was ruined. But it was impressive!
(I offered him $100. Should have bid higher. ha ha)
“quick climate change...frozen...the food in their bellies that they had just eaten.”
Have you seen Firestone’s book on Cosmic Catastrophes? Don’t have my copy handy for a more precise ID. Questions: Can’t remember if the initial supernova was 46, or 41,000 years ago? If 46, could this have destroyed one of the populations if that area was facing the incoming radiation? If the major comet crash(s) of 13,000 year ago wiped out the mammoths, were most of the flash frozen mammoths from that period/event?
“We’ve done a lot of damage in the last 6011 years...”
Yes, and according to the bible, I can’t remember the chapter/verse, God made us STEWARDS over his creations. He did not make us the exploiters and decimators.
Quoting something you don't believe in is pandering.
Sleazy. EEEeeewww.
Sometimes it’s sarcasm...
“If global climate changed and humans were not the cause, then that means that climate change is normal and animal extinctions are normal.”
Blasphemer! One REALLY short haircut coming up! ;)
And IIRC, Mars and Jupiter show signs of global warming, too. Which would tend to imply humans have nothing to do with global warming, too, Right?
“1. In the frozen place that they were found, what was growing that they could eat?
2. If they froze so quickly that they were preserved along with their food how quick did the climate have to change for this to happen? (My freezer does not do that)”
I remember reading that one frozen mammoth was found with buttercups in its stomach.
Here in the Great Plains, we have records of storms dropping the temperature over 60 degrees in a few minutes, particularly well north of where I am, in Oklahoma.
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