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Is Obama's candidacy even constitutional?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 10 June 2008

Posted on 06/11/2008 9:15:05 AM PDT by Hal1950

Bloggers are raising questions about Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's qualifications to be U.S. president, because of the secrecy over his birth certificate and the requirement presidents be "natural-born" U.S. citizens.

Jim Geraghty, reporting on the Campaign Spot, cited the "unlikely" but still circulating rumor that Obama was born not within the United States, but elsewhere, possibly Kenya.

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1 posted on 06/11/2008 9:15:06 AM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Hal1950

Wasn’t he born at an early age?


2 posted on 06/11/2008 9:16:35 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Hal1950

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2029300/posts


3 posted on 06/11/2008 9:16:56 AM PDT by BGHater ("Save water, shower with a friend")
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To: Hal1950
Breaking News? Get real!

World Net Daily will never publish anything that even RESEMBLES Breaking News.

If they said the sun was going to rise tomorrow, I'd check another source to be sure.

4 posted on 06/11/2008 9:17:33 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Hal1950

He’s a DemoRat so he won’t have to release anything.
Remember Slick Willy’s medical records and John Kerry’s military records?
No, neither do I.


5 posted on 06/11/2008 9:18:03 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (BHO-The Manchurian Muslim Candidate)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

With World Nut Daily and SnewsMax as sources, who needs enemies?


6 posted on 06/11/2008 9:18:35 AM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: stravinskyrules

True


7 posted on 06/11/2008 9:19:41 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Hal1950

Even if born in Kenya, he qualifites because of his American-citizen mother. Anyway, the American people would never stand for a challenge to their Oprah’s Obama on constitutional grounds. Oprah means more to them than the Constitution.


8 posted on 06/11/2008 9:20:14 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Hal1950

If we, Republicans/Conservatives waste our time on crap like this as a way to beat Obama, we might as well swear him in now and be done with it! Geeez!


9 posted on 06/11/2008 9:21:33 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: Hal1950

What I don’t understand is why he won’t release such a basic document as a birth certificate.

It should be simple to do. Ordinary Americans are sometimes asked to provide a birth certificate for trivial reasons. But Obama wants to run for the highest office in the land and he can’t provide such a simple document?

Did the dog eat it up or something?


10 posted on 06/11/2008 9:22:27 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Hal1950
I am betting his birth certificate sys he is a muslim...
11 posted on 06/11/2008 9:22:43 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Hal1950
Only Republicans would get such scrutiny in the msm. Being his is a dimocRAT it will not be looked into
12 posted on 06/11/2008 9:22:57 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Theodore R.

I thought Obama was born of a virgin.


13 posted on 06/11/2008 9:23:24 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Constitution Day

Yeah. It’s all breaking over there.


14 posted on 06/11/2008 9:23:32 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones aren't. Visit ConcealedCampus.com for more)
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To: Hal1950

15 posted on 06/11/2008 9:23:52 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Theodore R.
Even if born in Kenya, he qualifites because of his American-citizen mother.

False. While he would be an american citizen, he would not be a natural born citizen if born in Kenya.

16 posted on 06/11/2008 9:23:58 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Theodore R.

Oh, and further, his mother would have had to do some paperwork to get Barack his American citizenship if he was born outside of America.


17 posted on 06/11/2008 9:24:28 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Constitution Day

WorldNutDaily is unrealiable?


18 posted on 06/11/2008 9:24:39 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Yeah,Obama and Groucho.
19 posted on 06/11/2008 9:24:51 AM PDT by 4yearlurker ("Give them Watts boys!!")
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To: Phantom Lord

McCain was born in the Canal Zone..


20 posted on 06/11/2008 9:25:03 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Hal1950
1. Ma is from Kansas, so he is eligible.

2. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, now part of Canada, but then part of the US.

21 posted on 06/11/2008 9:25:53 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Theodore R.
Oprah means more to them than the Constitution

I believe that same might be said of the Supreme Court.

22 posted on 06/11/2008 9:26:20 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: Hal1950

I’m still waiting for the Michelle “Whitey” video....


23 posted on 06/11/2008 9:26:31 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: 4yearlurker

I would have voted for Groucho.


24 posted on 06/11/2008 9:26:39 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: cardinal4
McCain was born in the Canal Zone..

Which is American soil.

Now, had McCains mother been out and about in Panama, went into labor, and he was born in a Panamainian hospital instead of on the military base, he would be ineligible to run for President.

25 posted on 06/11/2008 9:26:44 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Hal1950
"requirement presidents be "natural-born" U.S. citizens." so if he was delivered c-section would that disqualify him from being considered a "natural-born" U.S. citizen? ha ha
26 posted on 06/11/2008 9:27:03 AM PDT by mfnorman (Jack Murtha: a Lee Harvey Oswald type of marine)
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To: 4yearlurker

I would have voted for Groucho.


27 posted on 06/11/2008 9:27:04 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: mgstarr
WorldNutDaily is unrealiable?

They are evry bit as reliable as Debka.

28 posted on 06/11/2008 9:27:10 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Hal1950

Everything else about B.O. HUSSEIN turns out to be a Fraud, now We have a “Secret Birth Certificate?” and We know not where the Idiot was actually born?? B.O. HUSSEIN is truly the “ MAGIC UNKNOWN MESSIAH!!” Only a Demorat could get away with this hookus pookus. :-)


29 posted on 06/11/2008 9:27:48 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Clemenza
Ma is from Kansas, so he is eligible.

You're kidding, right?

So, his mother being from Kansas, had Obama been born at an Antartic research facility, he would still be eligible? The answer is no.

30 posted on 06/11/2008 9:27:59 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Momaw Nadon
“It should be simple to do. Ordinary Americans are sometimes asked to provide a birth certificate for trivial reasons. But Obama wants to run for the highest office in the land and he can’t provide such a simple document”?

You can't release what you don't have. Bet he was born off-shore.

31 posted on 06/11/2008 9:29:38 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

At least a broken clock is right twice a day :-)


32 posted on 06/11/2008 9:30:07 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Phantom Lord

If you are born overseas to a US citizen, you are yourself a natural born citizen. George Romney was born in Mexico to US citizens, and nobody questioned his qualifications when he ran for President in ‘68.


33 posted on 06/11/2008 9:30:44 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Hal1950

He is eligible since his Next-door-step-neighbor-in-law-uncle-on-his-mother’s-side was in the United States Navy and liberated Nazi Death Camps in World War II while on super secret undercover assignment with the Red Army.


34 posted on 06/11/2008 9:30:49 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: JerseyDvl

“Remember Slick Willy’s medical records”

Let’s not forget Obama. He released a Doctor’s note stating he is able to run for office. This after the Democrats demanded the release of McCains and then complained that his mental health records weren’t part of the release.


35 posted on 06/11/2008 9:34:14 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: Clemenza

Mom was 18 yrs. old when she had Barry, and there seems to be a part of the natural citizen clause about the age of the mother and the number of yrs. All very confusing right now, but it seems very odd to not release a seemingly trivial thing like a birth certificate. Barry even says in his book that he has never seen the marriage certificate of his parents because he was afraid to look. Translation: there isn’t one and Barry is illegitimate. IMHO, of course.


36 posted on 06/11/2008 9:34:29 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Theodore R.
he qualifites because of his American-citizen mother

There have been several posts that if the mother is under age 18, certain rules apply, it's not automatic.

37 posted on 06/11/2008 9:34:37 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Hal1950

World Net Daily just parrots the latest news from other sources.

But this is an IMPORTANT question.

Why does Obama refuse to release his birth records? Or a dozen other important records?

Was he really born in Hawaii on the date he claims? Was his mother’s marriage actually legal? Is he an American citizen at all? Or a naturalized citizen, which would not qualify him to run for the presidency?

It is incumbent upon Obama to make these facts public, since he MAY be constitutionally forbidden to run for the presidency. Has he even given this information to the proper election authorities?

What is he hiding? Maybe nothing, but there’s nothing paranoid about demanding that he should confirm the relevant facts from the public records, if he intends to run for the presidency.


38 posted on 06/11/2008 9:35:08 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Hal1950

Dear Hal1950,

how do We know that his alleged Mother is really his Mother?
He may have been born of the Kenyan Mother or one of his Father’s other wives and/or girlfriends? To find that there is NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE defies every law in Our books, but I am sure it is accordance with Shia Law!

AAHHWW GEEEEZZZZ,
TRP


39 posted on 06/11/2008 9:35:55 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Clemenza
Some did question Romney's eligibility, but never coming close to having a shot at the nomination, much less becoming President, no offical challenge was ever mounted.

Thats one of the problems, there has actually never been a court determination of a persons eligibility based on place of birth.

40 posted on 06/11/2008 9:36:23 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Theodore R.

“Even if born in Kenya, he qualifites because of his American-citizen mother.”

Dems challenged McCain’s status because he was born while his father was stationed off American soil. They said the rules were that he had to be born on American soil.


41 posted on 06/11/2008 9:36:50 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: Phantom Lord
You are correct. I have a child born outside the US, and I had to have her registered at the American Embassy.

At the time that Obama was born, there was no such provision, and if one of the parents was NOT a US citizen and the child was born outside of US jurisdiction, then the child would have to go through the naturalizaton process.

Quite honestly, I see no reason to believe that Obama was not born in the US, so I think this is a false issue.

42 posted on 06/11/2008 9:37:49 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Phantom Lord
had McCains mother been out and about in Panama, went into labor, and he was born in a Panamainian hospital instead of on the military base, he would be ineligible to run for President.

All he needed was a certificate from the nearest US Consulate that he was born to TWO United States Citizens and he would still be Native born.

The laws for illegitimate children or children of a single US parent, are different then for those that are born to two US citizens joined in wedlock.

It's a great debate and really eyeopening to those that wish to explore the roots of citizenship.

43 posted on 06/11/2008 9:38:29 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: top 2 toe red

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing for some people.

You’re absolutely correct - this is an utter and complete waste of time/bandwidth and will go absolutely no where.


44 posted on 06/11/2008 9:39:01 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Clemenza

They didn’t have the Internet way back then!


45 posted on 06/11/2008 9:41:00 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: happygrl
Quite honestly, I see no reason to believe that Obama was not born in the US, so I think this is a false issue.

I agree. This is a bunch of smoke blowing, and if this is all we have to defeat him, just have Cheney resign, Bush appoint him VP, and then Bush resign and inaugurate him now.

Until someone produces actual, hard evidence that points to his being born elsewhere, this rumor mongering should stop.

46 posted on 06/11/2008 9:41:37 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: 2banana

I think it says he’s WHITE.


47 posted on 06/11/2008 9:41:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. F--- the caribou.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
What I don’t understand is why he won’t release such a basic document as a birth certificate.

BC lists ethnicity/race of father and Obama would have to explain why his Kenyan father called himself "Arab" instead of "Negro." Muslim Kenyans, although black in color, thought themselves better than the negros and were often slavers.

48 posted on 06/11/2008 9:42:05 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Clemenza
The key factor is that BOTH your parents must be US citizens.

I think this is a false alarm with BO, as I don't think his 18 year old mother would have flown to Kenya in the early 1960s to give birth, away from her own family.

49 posted on 06/11/2008 9:42:16 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: 2banana

I have never seen a US birth certificate list a religion.


50 posted on 06/11/2008 9:42:25 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. F--- the caribou.)
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