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New York Times ^
| 11 June 2008
| Timothy Eagan
Posted on 06/12/2008 6:13:20 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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What the author fails to mention is "liberalism" should be spelled with a capital "L" since it is the reigning faith in America.
People metaphysically create an answer to the questions of life including purpose and meaning. They then defend their faith as best they can.
To: shrinkermd
The man has lost his mind/way.
He appears he now worships at the feet of baal.
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posted on
06/12/2008 6:16:20 AM PDT
by
svcw
(There is no plan B.)
To: shrinkermd
To: shrinkermd
Just to refresh: it was televangelist Pat Robertson who predicted earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly even a meteor would hit Orlando for inviting gays to Disney World, and Rev. John Hagee who blamed Hurricane Katrina on a vengeful God angered over a gay pride parade in New Orleans. If these things are true (it is the Al Qaeda Times, after all) then it illustrates that people who believe that homosexuality is wrong need to take a different approach. For thousands of years, people have predicted all sorts of calamities if God's will is ignored, and most, if not all, of those predictions turned out to be false. All they did was simply take away credibility from religion.
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posted on
06/12/2008 6:18:16 AM PDT
by
pnh102
(Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
To: shrinkermd
To: shrinkermd
Sodom and Gomorrah were real cities, with real homosexuals (and heterosexuals) whose depravities condemned them, and a Righteous God annihilated them from the face of the Earth.
Warren and his ilk will be in their pulpits, preaching this false god of liberal situational-ethics, feel-good ‘values’ when fire and brimstone once again falls from the heavens, and they will join their spiritual brethren in the hereafter, and they’ll look around and wonder why there it’s so dark and smoky in ‘Heaven’.
Guess what Rick? You ain’t in Heaven.
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posted on
06/12/2008 6:20:53 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
(Obama-flakes! = Little suntanned Jimmy Carters with twice the empty rhetoric , from DNC cereals!)
To: pnh102
One can't help but note that N'awlins was destroyed by a hurricane. exactly at the time the city was to host a huge, in-your-face gay pride march.....
To: pnh102
I noticed the “God’s punishment!” folks were noticeably absent on the Boy Scout Camp getting hit by a tornado thread.
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The area where the parade took place and where decadence occurs continuously, the French Quarter, was barely damaged at all.
The areas destroyed were an assortment of suburbs.
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
“One can’t help but note that N’awlins was destroyed by a hurricane. exactly at the time the city was to host a huge, in-your-face gay pride march.....”
It was badly damaged but far from “destroyed.”
On the other hand, small and fairly conservative towns in Mississippi and Louisiana that weren’t having gay parades WERE destroyed by Katrina. Same with Hurricane Rita. Your explanation?
To: gracesdad
On the other hand, small and fairly conservative towns in Mississippi and Louisiana that werent having gay parades WERE destroyed by Katrina. Same with Hurricane Rita. Your explanation?
Not to mention severe damage to a variety of military bases and important naval shipyards.
To: pnh102
I remember reading a book, The End of the World: A History. The author described those eras when people thought the end of the world was at hand, such as the end of the Roman Empire or the Black Death of the 14th century. One of the chapters dealt with the 1755 earthquake in Lisbon. This was a terrible event with catastrophic loss of life. Lisbon was a devout Roman Catholic city, and no one could discern why Lisbon deserved such cruel punishment. As a result, European intellectuals abandoned the notion that God uses natural disasters to punish cities or nations.
To: mkjessup
The church doors should be open to all sinners (all of us have fallen short). However, the expectation should never be that sin will be condoned among a gathering of believers.
The idea, rather, should be that sinners invited into the church would be convicted of their sins, repent, confess and believe on Christ as their savior. Their repentance implies a turning away from their sins and that they would in the words of Christ: "Go and sin no more."
If Rev Osteen has opened the doors of his church to homosexuals based upon the above principles, more power to him and his congregation. If, on the other hand, he opened the doors of his church to homosexuals with the idea that he is implying that their sins should be ignored, then he is committing a grave error of, both, judgement and faith.
To: shrinkermd
The NYTs praises this preacher while ignoring this...
Deafening Silence (Mark Steyn and and others being prosecuted for their opinions) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2029956/posts
Fair and balanced they are not. They will slowly reduce all religion to bendable options making your chosen faith and opinion irrelevant.
To: megatherium
As a result, European intellectuals abandoned the notion that God uses natural disasters to punish cities or nations.
Though amazingly this is still clung to (selectively) by a lot of people on FR.
To: Strategerist
“I noticed the Gods punishment! folks were noticeably absent on the Boy Scout Camp getting hit by a tornado thread.”
Well you see these things are God’s punishment only when “they” decide they are.
To: Strategerist
Because it’s true. However, there are also a lot of natural disasters that are a consequence of living in a fallen world and the good are affected along with the evil. I cannot tell the difference between natural disasters and God’s direct use of them, not being God. I respect both and live in awe of a powerful God.
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posted on
06/12/2008 6:40:01 AM PDT
by
twigs
To: shrinkermd
I sure miss Adrian Rogers.
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posted on
06/12/2008 6:40:03 AM PDT
by
Sybeck1
(I would rather be water-boarded than vote for John McCain......)
To: twigs
Because its true. However, there are also a lot of natural disasters that are a consequence of living in a fallen world and the good are affected along with the evil.
Natural disasters seem to be caused by physics.
And all the natural disasters we experience now were clearly experienced in the world, often on far larger scales, hundreds of millions of years ago, when there were no sentient life-forms on earth to be "fallen" in the first place.
To: gracesdad; Strategerist
You guys need some reading comprehension lessons, I think. Notice, I merely pointed out the timing of Katrina, and implied that it gives the impression of some correlation. I didn't say that it necessarily
was a specific act of God's judgment. It might have been, or it might have been simply another act of nature. However, your arguments are extremely shallow and insufficient, as they stand. Regardless of the status of the French Quarter, the city WAS rendered ineffective (and still is much so), and the FQ is a shadow of its former self to this day. As for other towns around the area, and the military bases - who knows? If it were an act of God's judgment, due to the universality of sin, there was enough going on in even these conservative areas to warrant judgment, so that their "innocence" as "collateral damage" would not actually be so.
So tell me - why do you think the destruction of military bases necessarily negates the possibility of judgment? Do you think the US military is on God's A-list or something?
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