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Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty
2nd Session of the 51st Legislature (2008) ^ | Key, Dorman, Johnson (Dennis) and Reynolds of the House

Posted on 06/14/2008 4:50:49 PM PDT by The Eagle Bomb

STATE OF OKLAHOMA

2nd Session of the 51st Legislature (2008)

HOUSE JOINT

RESOLUTION 1089 By: Key

AS INTRODUCED

A Joint Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; and directing distribution.

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and

WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and

WHEREAS, today, in 2008, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and

WHEREAS, many federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and

WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE OF THE 2ND SESSION OF THE 51ST OKLAHOMA LEGISLATURE:

THAT the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States. THAT this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

THAT a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker

of the House and the President of the Senate of each state's legislature of the United States of America, and each member of the Oklahoma Congressional Delegation.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: Oklahoma
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1 posted on 06/14/2008 4:50:49 PM PDT by The Eagle Bomb
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To: The Eagle Bomb

So did they?


2 posted on 06/14/2008 4:53:18 PM PDT by mirkwood (susan collins (rino-maine) against a flaming obama supporter this fall. I'm lost.)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

I like it, but since when has the federal government cared about the Constitution?


3 posted on 06/14/2008 4:53:34 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: The Eagle Bomb

Looks great on paper, but of what practical use is this?


4 posted on 06/14/2008 4:53:34 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Wanted: A Presidential Candidate I can vote FOR...)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

holy cow

popcorn


5 posted on 06/14/2008 4:53:44 PM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

As state reclaiming its power...interesting...


6 posted on 06/14/2008 4:55:51 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

As = A


7 posted on 06/14/2008 4:56:16 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: The Eagle Bomb
There goes their Click It or Ticket money.
8 posted on 06/14/2008 4:56:43 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Keith in Iowa

Practical use? Oklahoma will have to do without it’s portion of Gubmnt cheese until such time as it knuckles under as it will.

But, BOOMER SOONER!


9 posted on 06/14/2008 4:58:27 PM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

I like it.


10 posted on 06/14/2008 4:59:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (John McCain just can't help himself - and I certainly can't and won't.)
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To: The Eagle Bomb
Of course, the original thirteen were sovereign states who ceded power to the Federal Government at the inception of the Republic, but Oklahoma derives its status from an act of the Federal Government authorized by the Constitution. From where does their sovereignty derive?


11 posted on 06/14/2008 4:59:49 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Peregrine, patron saint of cancer patients, pray for us.)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

propellors will start falling off of their airplanes again.


12 posted on 06/14/2008 5:00:30 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

Where’s Billy Sherman and his army when you need them.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 5:00:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: The Eagle Bomb
Where is Abe Lincoln when you need him? /sarc
14 posted on 06/14/2008 5:03:20 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance. Will Rogers)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

Has this passed both houses and been signed by the (urk) Governor?


15 posted on 06/14/2008 5:03:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Drill! Drill!! Drill!!!)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

The timing of this makes me wonder if Oklahoma is preparing for something they anticipate the Federal Government is going to do under Dem leadership that they think requires this declaration. It seems more an affirmation of an existing clause. Damned if I know what it’s all about, but seems precautionary to me.


16 posted on 06/14/2008 5:03:30 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: mirkwood

About Time! Power to the states. Oklahoma is A-OK in my book. Let’s hope other states follow suit and knock some common sense into the feds.


17 posted on 06/14/2008 5:04:50 PM PDT by Lurkus Maximus
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To: DariusBane
I believe the idea here is you don't send them any taxes in the first place.
18 posted on 06/14/2008 5:05:18 PM PDT by PushinTin
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To: Tax-chick

I don’t think that the governor has to sign a resolution.


19 posted on 06/14/2008 5:11:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: The Eagle Bomb
They might want to consult with South Carolina first and see how that worked out...


20 posted on 06/14/2008 5:12:46 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Swordmaker

Maybe, but if it’s going to be anything but showboating, he’s going to need to sign any bills taking real action based on the resolution. Have both houses even passed it?

I wish them the best - just wondering what the actual status is.

(Former Okie - 3 years in Norman, 4 years in Broken Arrow)


21 posted on 06/14/2008 5:14:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Drill! Drill!! Drill!!!)
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To: The Eagle Bomb; Travis McGee; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; Squantos; hiredhand; Eaker

It may just be time for all who support State sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to load up your tools with the associated supplies for a trip to Oklahoma. I have no idea just what is over the horizen but my first thought was blue helmets. If that is the case then my full support can be counted upon.


22 posted on 06/14/2008 5:14:59 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: The Eagle Bomb
State sovereignty ... Tenth Amendment ... enumerated powers ...?"

There are actually people who believe that stuff is still in the Constitution in the 21st century? Clearly the Democrats have more work to do, explaining how abortion and gay marriage are in there, but the 10th Amendment disappeared from the Living Constitution, the real one, back in the last century.

23 posted on 06/14/2008 5:15:10 PM PDT by RogerD (Educaiton Profesionul)
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To: B4Ranch

Dang, it’s an amazing statement in itself.

Mexican sovereign truck terminals come to mind. Keep an eye on Wyoming.


24 posted on 06/14/2008 5:21:15 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: The Eagle Bomb

Red state rebellion! Oh, man, I’d love to see all the red states do this, and make it stick. Put the hate-America crowd on notice that they’re finished.


25 posted on 06/14/2008 5:27:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: The Eagle Bomb
WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states

As a die-hard constitutional conservative, I love this resolution by the Oklahoma legislature. Unfortunately, the states discarded their true agents at the federal level when they ratified the 27th Amendment in 1913. That amendment removed from the states their right to appoint their two senators. That was the states' key check on federal power in the original Constitution, and the states stupidly threw it away.

The Constitution already ensured that the people of the several states could directly elect their own representatives. That's why the House of Representatives was once called the people's house. Senators were agents for their state governments, and the country's President and Vice President were our only national elected offices.

In my opinion, the 27th Amendment, combined with the 26th (income taxes), also ratified in 1913, totally turned our original constitutional system upside down. These two amendments gave the federal government far, far more power than the founders ever intended. It's why we have senators like Byrd, Kennedy, Thurmond, and too many others who are de facto senators for life. It's why senators see themselves instead of agents for their states.

So while Oklahoma's sovereignty resolution is a welcome tiny step toward what I hope will be a rebirth of the proper role of the states in our republic, it has little practical effect at this time.

26 posted on 06/14/2008 5:28:15 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Only a selfish, idiotic coward thinks the way to win in politics is for his own side to lose.)
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To: glock rocks

The current and I well imagine the next administration appears to place zero value on national sovereignty. I have said before and I repeat, Veterans, “There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

If the globalists wish to live under the United Nation Charter, fine but I don’t.


27 posted on 06/14/2008 5:33:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Of course, the original thirteen were sovereign states who ceded power to the Federal Government at the inception of the Republic, but Oklahoma derives its status from an act of the Federal Government authorized by the Constitution. From where does their sovereignty derive?

The original thirteen did not cede power to the federal government. They delegated it. Oklahoma and all other subsequent states derive their sovereignty the same way the original 13 did. By popular mandate. The federal government merely acted as an agent in the creation of the later states.

28 posted on 06/14/2008 5:39:50 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: DariusBane

If the people of Oklahoma sent their taxes to the seat of government of the U.S. state of Oklahoma, the Oklahoma State Capitol, in Oklahoma City they would be money ahead. Knuckle under, ha!


29 posted on 06/14/2008 5:50:00 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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30 posted on 06/14/2008 5:52:43 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: B4Ranch; The Eagle Bomb; Travis McGee; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; Squantos; Eaker
Have a look at this -

OK House of Representatives - HOUSE JOINT RES 1089
31 posted on 06/14/2008 5:54:01 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand

Very impressive!


32 posted on 06/14/2008 5:59:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: AmericaUnited
Two totally different situations. SC declared independence from the US--they seceded. OK is merely declaring its rights as a part of the US.
33 posted on 06/14/2008 6:08:10 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: B4Ranch; The Eagle Bomb; Travis McGee; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; Squantos; hiredhand; Eaker
Here's a link to the URL containing the verbage of HR1089.

http://www.ok-safe.com/files/documents/1/HJR1089_int.pdf

It's reasonably easy to understand and makes a vast and damning statement against the federal gov't.
34 posted on 06/14/2008 6:10:57 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: B4Ranch

“I have no idea just what is over the horizen but my first thought was blue helmets.”

I was thinking more along the lines that all those angry white guys in fly-over country just want to be able to keep their guns and their Bibles.


35 posted on 06/14/2008 6:14:52 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: B4Ranch; The Eagle Bomb; Travis McGee; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; Squantos; Eaker
Hey....WHY is the vote dated 13 Mar 2008? That was four months ago...approx. Why is this news just now getting around?
36 posted on 06/14/2008 6:16:56 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: 21twelve

That includes me and my neighbors, for sure.


37 posted on 06/14/2008 6:17:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch
The vote IS impressive! Only 3 nays. ...92 yeas!
38 posted on 06/14/2008 6:18:08 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: The Eagle Bomb

It applied to the 13 original states...Each state was instructed to write their State Constitution PRIOR TO the Federal Constitution.


39 posted on 06/14/2008 6:18:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: hiredhand

>Why is this news just now getting around?<

It wouldn’t have anything to do with ‘voluntary censorship’ by the national media would it?


40 posted on 06/14/2008 6:20:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

I suspect it would.


41 posted on 06/14/2008 6:21:57 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand

92-3! Fantastic!


42 posted on 06/14/2008 6:26:07 PM PDT by Sal (Breathe into the bubble Mary Jo. I'll be back on Tuesday. (TY to Officer Vick KSFO)
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To: hiredhand
Take a guess at what this is referring to; (if you would)

WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.

43 posted on 06/14/2008 6:30:30 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

I can only imagine. Whatever it was though gained the unanimous attention of the legislators in the Oklahoma State House.


44 posted on 06/14/2008 6:35:17 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: The Eagle Bomb

Aiming for Olympics gold medal in wresting (free-style)?


45 posted on 06/14/2008 6:42:25 PM PDT by kenavi ("My mudder thanks you, my fodder thanks you, and Obama thanks you!")
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To: hiredhand

SPP, NAFTA Super Highway, NAU are the ones that come to mind with me. I can visualize how they might just affect Oklahoma enough to make them say, “NO!”

Who knows maybe they are just realizing what Agenda 21 is all about?


46 posted on 06/14/2008 6:45:12 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

I was thinking the “highway”.


47 posted on 06/14/2008 6:49:51 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: B4Ranch
About your reference to blue helmets--I expect you're right about that, but IMO plans have been made for other forces as well.

Remember June 6, 2007 the S.Amdt. 1184 to S.Amdt. 1150 to S. 1348 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007) which is listed on the senate's own web site as "To establish a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals". It was defeated 51--46 including 10 Republican senators.

I've never figured our fine men and women in the military (post Clinton infiltrators) would fire on us for not giving up our guns or some other similar unconstitutional order, but I bet MS-13 would if they were being paid for it.

For the record, the 10 "Republicans" who voted to accept gang members, terrorists, and other criminals are: Craig, Domenici, Graham, Hagel, Kyl, Lugar, Martinez, McCain, Specter, and crybaby Voinovich.

At the time I was flabbergasted--why would any responsible person WANT gang members, terrorists, and other criminals brought in and eligible for citizenship. Then I figured it was in case law-abiding American citizens had some reason(s) to pose a problem for them...

48 posted on 06/14/2008 6:52:53 PM PDT by Sal (Breathe into the bubble Mary Jo. I'll be back on Tuesday. (TY to Officer Vick KSFO)
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To: PushinTin

r u willing to go to jail 4 that point?


49 posted on 06/14/2008 7:05:35 PM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: Sal

>I’ve never figured our fine men and women in the military (post Clinton infiltrators) would fire on us for not giving up our guns or some other similar unconstitutional order, but I bet MS-13 would if they were being paid for it.<

This is one of those things that is so far down on my worry wart list that I keep forgetting about it. Primarily because it you get too far away from the line between constitutional and unconstitutional, that’s what will make old Vets across the country reach for their hunting rifles without even thinking about it.

I have no solid idea how many .50BMG caliber rifles there are in my County but I would have to say at least 100.
Anybody foolish enough to attempt to go against them guys and gals would be obliterated in seconds. Spending a morning down at the local range when they are shooting is enough to get any patriots heart beating stronger.


50 posted on 06/14/2008 7:06:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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