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Oklahoma declares Sovereignty!
Digg.com, various ^ | 3.13.2008 | NA

Posted on 06/14/2008 5:07:59 PM PDT by prisoner6

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To: prisoner6

I’m from Oklahoma (in Tennessee right now) and hadn’t heard anything about this. I’ll certainly find out though and report back. My Dad knows people in OK State Government.


21 posted on 06/14/2008 5:59:15 PM PDT by hreardon
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To: Born In America

Every citizen of this country interested in the type of Federal Government that we have should read the Kentucky Resolutions and the Virginia Resolution. They were written by Jefferson and Madison. They were aimed at limiting the Federal Government’s powers over sovereign states. In a nutshell, the Federal Government is the agent of the states. The states formed the Federal Government and the states have all powers not explicitly given to the Federal Government by the Constitution. Uncle Sam appears not to be able to read and interpret our Constitution.


22 posted on 06/14/2008 6:03:36 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Uncle sham is a thief and a bully.

He wants all power and is willing to use force to take it.


23 posted on 06/14/2008 6:06:04 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: prisoner6; Admin Moderator

The source is false. The source link does not redirect to Digg.com, it goes to some no-name gold-pushing site. Please change the source or remove this article.


24 posted on 06/14/2008 6:11:56 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: prisoner6

ALL the states are sovereign states. The federal government would not exist if the sovereign states didn’t create it and delegate certain enumerated powers to it, while rataining ALL the other powers for themselves or the citizens of those states.

Good for Oklahoma that almost all their reps understand it.


25 posted on 06/14/2008 6:17:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Hardly a declaration of war. More like reminding the federal government of their limited powers and that they derive their limited powers form what the states grant them.


26 posted on 06/14/2008 6:19:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You tell a 900 pound gorilla that it can’t do what it wants when it wants and how it wants, the gorilla isn’t likely to take it as a friendly reminder that it’s not in charge.


27 posted on 06/14/2008 6:24:22 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: prisoner6
.. Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty ... over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States. ...and Demand to the federal government... to cease and desist...mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

I don't really see what all the fuss is about.

Oklahoma is simply declaring they have powers under the Constitution and demanding that the Feds not exercise powers not granted them under the Constitution. Basically, it's just another toothless symbolic resolution.

Don't get me wrong, I am all in favor of the states standing up against Federal encroachment. I just don't expect anyone to start firing on Ft. Sill anytime soon.

28 posted on 06/14/2008 6:25:55 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Federalism fed the 9 pound chimp and turned it into a 900 pound gorilla. Still don’t mean the gorilla is right.

And frankly I don’t care if the gorilla is pissed off or not. The gorilla needs to start going on a damn diet. Maybe this is the first step. It would be the best way to deal with spiraling debt and deficits. Only allow it to do the few things it is supposed to do and get it the hell out of everything else it shouldn’t be doing.


29 posted on 06/14/2008 6:29:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m totally in agreement, I think the fedgov should be pared down to bare bones and the states re-empowered.

It won’t happen, but I’d be all for it.


30 posted on 06/14/2008 6:31:04 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That was an awesome post. I want a gorilla head on my wall now!


31 posted on 06/14/2008 6:31:30 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: billybudd; Admin Moderator

see post 11. Looks real to me...


32 posted on 06/14/2008 6:35:40 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: prisoner6

Here’s the vote record:

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/CF/2007-08%20SUPPORT%20DOCUMENTS/VOTES/House/hjr1089%20third%20reading%20vote%20okh01983.txt


33 posted on 06/14/2008 6:39:37 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
If this is true, it almost looks like Oklahoma just declared war on uncle sham.

If McCain is president, they'll get support from him - he is adamant on State's Rights FIRST...per the Constitution.

If the states did this, it will be the best and surest way to defeat the Marxists/Communists. They would be done for - they must have control from Washington to succeed. Without that, they are done for.

34 posted on 06/14/2008 6:46:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: prisoner6

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/2007-08HB/HJR1089_int.rtf


35 posted on 06/14/2008 6:52:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: billybudd
The source is false.

the =source= is not the only source....

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/2007-08HB/HJR1089_int.rtf

36 posted on 06/14/2008 6:55:11 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: Squantos

Bookmarking.....


37 posted on 06/14/2008 6:57:10 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: billybudd
Sorry, that's why I posted the links to the original articles in the body of the thread. FWIW here's the Digg link.

DIGG

Of course it's just an exceprt and comment section with links to hte origial articles. The same ones I posted in the thread body.

prisoner6

38 posted on 06/14/2008 7:17:24 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: prisoner6
Dang dyslexia. LOL!

prisoner6

39 posted on 06/14/2008 7:20:13 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: prisoner6

We can only hope Oklahoma pushes this and has the other states follow suit. The federal government has become way to involved in our lives and needs to be reeled back in.

JoMa


40 posted on 06/14/2008 7:20:54 PM PDT by joma89
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