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Anthony Kennedy's international view
lat ^ | June 14, 2008 | David G. Savage

Posted on 06/15/2008 12:16:25 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: dennisw
We have very valid reasons for wanting these trials done in military courts.

I could not agree more that it is necessary to do this under a military tribunal, which is why you should be very angry with the Secretary of the Navy for screwing it up. Kennedy's principal objection in his opinion was that secretary of the Navy's implementing regulations turned what should have been a neutral adversarial process in a military tribunal into a kanagaroo court. This is not on left wing lawyers. It is on him and the administration. They were shot with the gun they loaded and handed over.

181 posted on 06/17/2008 5:46:47 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: dennisw
Prisoners of war are detained by definition. They await military tribunals that your communist/leftist lawyers blocked at every turn

They are not MY leftist lawyers. Murdering terrorists should be put on trial for their lives, and if convicted in a fair and neutral forum, an appropriate military tribunal, the should be executed. From the WP article: Under the previous order, all commission members functioned as both judge and jury. Under the new order, the presiding officer will function as the judge

What idiot suit lawyer for the administration is writing these rules. One thing that we know how to do is to run military tribunals. There are 100s of years of precedent. There is always a judge.

But some clueless twit didn't even want a judge? NO F'IN Judge? Why not just commission a lynch mob? We claim to a a member of the civilized countries of the world, and we intend to hold trials to put terrorist murderers to death, and we don't even have a judge? This crap makes us an international laughing stock. Did we steal a page from the Trial by Court Martials manual of Mugabe? The Iraq war is being won by competent serving military. The peace is being lost by the most incompetent boobs I can imagine have been assembled in one administration.

NO JUDGE? What did they think they were doing? This is the silliest most outrageous thing I have ever read.

182 posted on 06/17/2008 5:56:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: dennisw
The system has been mired in litigation.

When you try to execute people without a judge, that is likely to happen.

183 posted on 06/17/2008 5:57:35 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
The system has been mired in litigation.

When you try to execute people without a judge, that is likely to happen.

Execute people after being tried by a military commission in Guantanamo. Are you against this? A simple yes or no will suffice. I have no problem with it

184 posted on 06/17/2008 8:06:49 AM PDT by dennisw (We have an idiocracy not a democracy)
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To: dennisw
If you conduct a fair trial, with an impartial judge and panel, and convict scumbag terrorists of murder, then exectute them. Please. I am all in favor of it.

But we have three choices: 1. fair trial. 2. Mock trial. 3. Summary execution. SECNAV is doing his best to avoid option 1, and he cannot do option 3 so he is doing his damndest to get option 2, just like for the Haditha Marines.

185 posted on 06/17/2008 8:16:12 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: dennisw
Execute people after being tried by a military commission

You missed off the key quibble that has lead to all the litigation.... tried by a military commission that flying in the face of all precedent, is not headed by an impartial [military if you wish] judge to conduct the trial. The process for military tribunals is as old as the hills. Why did this administration decided to go off on a flier and attempt to rewrite the whole thing.

186 posted on 06/17/2008 8:18:48 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Regardless of what the Navy Secretary did... The obvious intent of the left wing lawyers is to get the trials out of Guantanamo, onto the Mainland USA and into Federal courts. This Supreme decision brings them one step closer

You miss the obvious incentive of these commie lawyers. To get more glory and recognition. They can only get this if they represent these Jihadists in Federal courts on the Mainland USA


187 posted on 06/17/2008 8:21:41 AM PDT by dennisw (We have an idiocracy not a democracy)
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To: dennisw
The obvious intent of the left wing lawyers is to get the trials out of Guantanamo

That has been their game all along. Why does the administration do dumb things that plays into it?

188 posted on 06/17/2008 8:22:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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