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Fuel costs threaten to bankrupt airlines
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Posted on 06/16/2008 6:19:08 AM PDT by chessplayer

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To: chessplayer

I think we could end up seeing down the road one national airline, just like what they have in other countries.


21 posted on 06/16/2008 6:47:14 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

You should see this.


22 posted on 06/16/2008 6:48:28 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: chessplayer

Libs should be elated by this, considering they believe airplanes contribute to global warming, destroy the ozone, etc.
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At least the celebs will still have their private airplanes. I mean there has to be a silver lining here, right? Writing with sarcasm on high...


23 posted on 06/16/2008 6:50:40 AM PDT by navymom1 (I support Free Speech. Defeat the Fairness Doctrine.)
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To: webschooner

Hell of a way to run a railroad.

Or an airport terminal, either.

I suppose we are fortunate, as yet, not to be required to show an internal passport, with a visa to make a temporary visit to the destination in another part of United States. There is a continuing reason to keep our personal transportation, i.e., automobiles, which still permit embarking upon a journey without too much bureaucracy involved, and certainly without an intrusive inspection that serves no useful purpose other than to make travels continually difficult for people who have no intention of making trouble, but absolutely miss the real perpetrators.

I probably will not take an airplane anywhere again in my lifetime.


24 posted on 06/16/2008 6:51:20 AM PDT by alloysteel (Carbon dioxide is plant food, no more of a "pollutant" than water or oxygen.)
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To: Former War Criminal

uh...

that’s too simple!

whining and going out of business are more fun.


25 posted on 06/16/2008 6:52:12 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: kabar

I second that.


26 posted on 06/16/2008 6:52:16 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: whitedog57
Why do politicians listen to Greens, Gays, La Raza and other radical groups? Because they threaten to disrupt.

I question this. Physical disruption(s) can be countered with force. The disruption they threaten is financial. Though the numbers in these groups -- the Greens, Gays, Poverty-Pimps, etc.-- are minute, they are focused like a lazar, while the rest of us are a scatter gun.

27 posted on 06/16/2008 6:52:20 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: ken21

Whining and lobbying for a Federal bailout is more profitable.


28 posted on 06/16/2008 6:53:01 AM PDT by DManA
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To: alloysteel

I’ve never been on a plane and don’t forsee a time when I’ll need to be on one.


29 posted on 06/16/2008 6:53:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: Biggirl

If they are precluded from discussion pricing by law, they will have to do it by merging. Some way has to be found to raise prices.


30 posted on 06/16/2008 6:54:44 AM PDT by DManA
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To: NavyCanDo

Unless and until our elected officials get off the backs of “Big Oil” and turn them lose to find and produce oil in this country for use within this country, matters will only get worse.


31 posted on 06/16/2008 6:55:32 AM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment-buy another gun today!)
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To: cripplecreek

You really need to try it once just to see how bad it is.


32 posted on 06/16/2008 6:56:17 AM PDT by DManA
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To: chessplayer

Hopefully another form of mass transit like railroads will be able to take up some of the slack, at least on domestic runs.


33 posted on 06/16/2008 6:57:49 AM PDT by whipitgood (Our Government: neither of, by, nor for the people any longer...)
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To: saganite
Also, some of the planes being flown now lose money at current fuel prices even if they fly full.

This is why some airlines like Continental and United are grounding their 737-300's. United is getting rid of all their 737's, because all their newer planes for that size and mission are A320's and A319's. Continental is keeping its Next Generation 737's, the 700, 800, 900, and 900ER which they bought instead of switching to the Airbus A320 series.

34 posted on 06/16/2008 6:57:49 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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To: chessplayer
I just wish GWB would go executive order and declare and emergency and go around the greenies.

Coal to Oil is approved for the C-17 and the F-15 and F-16 if I am not mistaken.

To support our airpower and land transportation via the trucking industries, an immediate effort to get the trucking and airline industry and our air-power on this fuel source should be done, 100% domestic sourced.

It would probably clean out the short speculators big time and the price would drop in half so fast it would make your head spin.

But hey, nobody listens to me anyhow....

35 posted on 06/16/2008 6:58:58 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: alloysteel

I am acquainted with a guy who works for the TSA. He is the husband of a friend of my wife’s. The guy apparently has some wires crossed in his brain or something, really, I kid you not. He puts words together to make sentences that just make no sense, and in your head you are going, “WTF!!?” — Like Yogi Berra, but without any wisdom or common sense. And, he is all thumbs. He literally hardly knows which end of a screwdriver to use. His wife won’t let him near tools, for fear of what will happen. And they give this guy a friggin’ probe ...

So there you go ... this is one of the guys on the front line at our airports, making you safer, ferreting out terrorists.

Feel safer now??

Thought so ...


36 posted on 06/16/2008 7:00:32 AM PDT by webschooner (Bumper Sticker: "None of the Above, 2008")
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To: whipitgood

“Hopefully another form of mass transit like railroads will be able to take up some of the slack, at least on domestic runs.”

And fortunately we have finely-tuned government-supported machine in Amtrak just waiting to seize the opportunity.....


37 posted on 06/16/2008 7:10:17 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: cripplecreek
I can simulate a typical coach-fare flight for you. Have all your friends come over, several more than can be seated in your living room. Put them all in the living room anyway and make them wait. Oh, and make them park half a mile from your house and carry a heavy bag.

After a suitable wait, line them up and, one at a time, let them walk out and get in your car. Make sure at least one has a cranky, crying kid. After your car is full, with one rear seat left for you, tell the rest of your friends they will have to go back to the living room and wait for another car tonight.

Now, get in the car, and have the persons in the front seat slide them as far back as possible and recline them, so your knees are crushed. Try and enjoy the ridiculous gift catalogs thoughtfully crushed by your knees.

Now ride like this for hours. Oh, you forgot to put your bag in the trunk? Too bad. At least you'll get half a Coke and some peanuts, right? Not anymore.

Thank you for flying SimulAir.

38 posted on 06/16/2008 7:11:32 AM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: webschooner
I learned a secret sometime back and that is to fly out of a Mexican border town when traveling to another country.

I parked my car on the US side of the border and took a taxi to the airport.

Checked through security and on to the counter within 3 to 5 minutes with no problems.

Saved over $243 dollars by going across and flying Mexicana.

BTW, the security folks were very courteous not like the TSA dummies who have let power go to their heads.

Some of the insane and inane tricks these folks are doing is right out of the book of Keystone Kops.

Do I feel any safer because these guys abuse the inspection process,shut down the airport for any reason and are rude to the passengers, not really.

39 posted on 06/16/2008 7:19:48 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: saganite
"Good luck getting one of those Southwest 737’s to fly to Hong Kong or Paris or Rio."

I hadn't heard that British Airways or Korean Air were in trouble....I thought we were talking about domestic dinosaur airlines run into the ground by poor management.

40 posted on 06/16/2008 7:24:42 AM PDT by ljco (I think the best possible social program is a job. - The Gipper)
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