Posted on 06/17/2008 1:23:19 PM PDT by kms61
TY for the La insight.
What struck me was the “...let them govern themselves.” They should be governed by the people.
Our country is disintegrating, agonizingly slow. I say we pull a “Wyatt’s Torch” and start over. OBAMA for prez. (I will throw up later.) He is the most likely to disintegrate this country faster. McCain would bleed us to death with a thousand needles. Obama is the chainsaw to McCain’s needles. VP choices don’t really matter anymore.
America was created as a constitutional republic. That does not exist anymore. I am deeply saddened. (seriously)
I haven't lost all faith in Jindal, but he's definitely disappointed so far. He can still salvage himself if his plan works.
I think his plan is to let the legislature have their exorbitant, unearned pay raises, and then he'll have a pliant group who will vote for all of his reforms.
One problem with this plan is that a huge part of reforming the state should involve cutting taxes and shrinking government and I'm not so sure that these legislators will always go along with that, even if they did get their pay raise. When the time comes to cut Department X which has a lot of employees in Senator Y's district, he'll still go against the cut, in spite of the pay raise.
We'll see. I give Jindal a better than even chance of pulling this off and rehabilitating his image in the state, but I don't think it had to come to this. I think he would have done better to have stood firm against a huge pay raise from the beginning and let the pols feel the citizens' wrath. He just didn't expect such an enormous outcry of fury from the voters.
Another thing I heard on the radio is that during the campaign, Jindal pledged to fight any pay raises that would take effect before the next session. He's not doing that.
We'll see what happens, but he's lost the voters' goodwill and now looks very weak.
I agree with you, mostly because he promised to try to do that in his election material. That is where he is most at fault, for not pushing the legislature to require the raise to take effect after the next election.
If they really were upset, he could have compromised by having it take effect AFTER the next election, but be retroactive for those re-elected back to the date of enactment.
So if the people liked it, they could vote the reps back in and they would get their raise, if they didn’t like it they could vote them out and the raise would be gone.
Virginia has a part-time legislature, and we like it, but it does mean that some people can’t be representatives because they don’t have the kind of job that allows you to take off for several months a year.
On the other hand, I thought we had a lot of lawyers, but I learned we don’t have that many.
An interesting side effect is that staff members make more than the legislators, because they are allowed to have a full-time staffer.
He’s just too inexperienced and has had an easy road in politics to go on the McPain ticket. I am unsure that he will be a successful governor. He can declare himself successful in 2011, I suppose, and be reelected, as voters have short memories.
No, LA embraced Clinton TWICE.
Oops, I just changed my perspective. With a $70,000 salary for part-time “work”, I suspect that in 2011 the people will reelect the legislators but they will defeat Jindal and hold HIM accountable for the salaries. Such is LA politics.
The American people don’t want a republic any more. They don’t even know what a republic is anyway.
“unless his administration fulfilled a prior deal on legislative salaries.”
So you’d rather he break promises he made to get his reforms passed?
Harrumph. Reagan did a lot lot lot more comprimising than a mere pay raise.
Give him more than a millimeter of slack.
Thanks for a common sense comment. I really hate it when the Freepers get the vapors over one issue.
I’m on the record (and have contacted the Governor as such) on this issue already. I’m against the pay raise in this form, as it should take effect in 2012. Even our congresscritters can’t pass a pay raise like this, thanks to the 27th Amendment. Precedent has been set, and our lawmakers chose to ignore it. Shame on them.
[sidebar] I know... Congress subverted the 27th Amendment by enacting automatic cost-of-living raises. No one has to remind me... [/sidebar]
Perhaps, but if (highly unlikely) the legislature actually goes out and EARNS that fancy new pay raise, then Bobby will look like a genius.
The legislature is mostly conservative - will they make do on their part of the deal, or will it be more “Business as usual”?
We’ll find out soon enough. I’ll say this about Louisiana politics - there’s never a dull moment!
I took Louisiana History at LSU under the late Mark Carleton. He was from Minnesota, had studied at Stanford and Yale, and ended up in Louisiana because “no other place is half as interesting.” It is “interesting,” I’ll give it that.
So for this I’m supposed to forget about Jindal and what? Support a McCain/Lieberman or McCain/Ridge ticket? Are you suggesting that we abandon Jindal over a minor issue like this and instead support a candidate that has stabbed conservatives in the back over major issue after major issue?
Call Bobby and tell him to grow a set and veto this pay increase:
1-866-366-1121 (Toll Free)
If Jindal vetoes this bill, then he has the people behind him and can get fresher, reform-minded officials in the legislature.
Im not an expert on the LA political system, but this just seems like a time to take a stand.
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