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Obama advisers say bin Laden can appeal to U.S. courts: YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING!?!
Examiner ^ | 2008-06-18 07:00:00.0 | Bill Sammon, The Examiner

Posted on 06/18/2008 6:21:12 AM PDT by RaceBannon

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To: NordP
From 'The Audacity Of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." .
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101 posted on 06/18/2008 9:06:14 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: cake_crumb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjcOcNoNJs8&eurl=http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainreport/Read.aspx?guid=9881bdeb-01e9-4a9e-b174-65c47d40842a


102 posted on 06/18/2008 9:09:27 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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Should have included what the link is about.

Susan Rice calling McCain and Bush stupid.

I know you are but what am I? They are so childish!


103 posted on 06/18/2008 9:10:54 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: al_c
Dead people can’t appeal to anything.

That is why I say shoot first and ask questions later.

104 posted on 06/18/2008 9:14:43 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama is a lying piece of Marxist dung. He will destroy this Republic. He is an idiot.)
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To: RaceBannon

Fascinating that the odious moral weathervane that is Richard Clarke is quoted.

Here is an article that his fans on the Left will find inconvenient. It dates to back when he was humping Condi Rice’s leg, trying to get a promotion. Which he didn’t, and he’s been in a righteous state of pique ever since, glomming onto first John Kerry and now Barack Obama. Man’s a whore.

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http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040325-091451-8041r.htm

Excerpts from the August 2002 press briefing by Richard A. Clarke:

RICHARD CLARKE: There was no plan on al Qaeda that was passed from the
Clinton administration to the Bush administration ... In January 2001,
the incoming Bush administration was briefed on the existing strategy.
[They] decided to ... vigorously pursue the existing policy [and] ...
initiate a process to look at those issues which had been on the table
for a couple of years.

In their first meeting [the principles] changed the strategy by
authorizing the increase in funding [for covert action against al Qaeda]
five-fold, changing the policy on Pakistan, changing the policy on
Uzbekistan, changing the policy on the Northern Alliance assistance.
[They] then changed the strategy from one of rollback with al Qaeda ...
to a new strategy that called for the rapid elimination of al Qaeda.

QUESTION: What is your response to the suggestion in the [Aug. 12, 2002]
Time [magazine] article that the Bush administration was unwilling to
take on board the suggestions made in the Clinton administration because
of animus against ... the foreign policy?
CLARKE: I think if there was a general animus that clouded their vision,
they might not have kept the same guy dealing with [the] terrorism issue
... There was never a plan [in the Clinton administration].

QUESTION: What was the problem? Why was it so difficult for the Clinton
administration to make decisions on those issues?
CLARKE: Because they were tough issues. One of the big problems was that
Pakistan at the time was aiding the other side, was aiding the Taliban.
In the spring [of 2001], the Bush administration ... began to change
Pakistani policy. We began to offer carrots, which made it possible for
the Pakistanis ... [to] join us and to break away from the Taliban. So
that’s really how it started.

QUESTION: Had the Clinton administration ... prepared for a call for the
use of ground forces, special operations forces in any way?
CLARKE: There was never a plan in the Clinton administration to use
ground forces. The military was asked at a couple of points ... to think
about it. And they always came back and said it was not a good idea.
There was never a plan to do that.

QUESTION: You’re saying ... there was no plan; two, there was no delay;
and that actually the first changes since October of ‘98 were made in
the spring months just after the administration came into office?
CLARKE: You got it ...The other thing to bear in mind is the shift from
the rollback strategy to the elimination strategy. When President Bush
told us in March to stop swatting at flies and just solve this problem,
then that was the strategic direction that changed the [policy] from one
of rollback to one of elimination.


105 posted on 06/18/2008 9:30:11 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: al_c

Exactly. He will never be taken alive . . . by his choice and ours.


106 posted on 06/18/2008 9:49:17 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: RaceBannon

If that rat bastard were to ever make it that far to be captured alive, it would be the duty of every red-blooded soldier to take him out before any travesty of justice could ever happen.


107 posted on 06/18/2008 9:49:58 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: RaceBannon

Watched the CSPAN Replay of the Senate heaings on “Harsh Interrogations” at Gitmo ....chaired by Levin of Michigan last night for awhile....( Barfing frequently).

See especially Sen Nelson of Florida...wants to write a rule book...and Pryor thinks Geneva Conventions should apply...


108 posted on 06/18/2008 9:56:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Bronzewound

The Trial Lawyers won’t like that,...impacts their income opportunities...


109 posted on 06/18/2008 10:00:58 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: samtheman

110 posted on 06/18/2008 10:31:19 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RaceBannon
Obama's National Security Advisory Group:

Madelein Albright

Warren Christopher

William Perry

I can feel the Change and the Hope for New Politics! /s

111 posted on 06/18/2008 10:31:48 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: RaceBannon

Barack HUSSEIN wants to CHANGE us back to the failed Clinton law enforcement approach.


112 posted on 06/18/2008 10:51:30 AM PDT by omega4179 (That is not a birth certificate, Kos.)
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To: RaceBannon
Barry's trying to add a little fuel to the fire. Fixed his misleading inaccuracy:

Obama said President Bush has relied too heavily on military prosecution of terrorists, which has “given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims. terrorists’ ”

113 posted on 06/18/2008 10:56:42 AM PDT by taraytarah
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To: RaceBannon

This is absolutely incredible. And this J.O. wants to be President of the United States.


114 posted on 06/18/2008 10:59:19 AM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: kingattax

osama/obama ping


115 posted on 06/18/2008 11:03:04 AM PDT by taraytarah
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To: RaceBannon
"If this doesn't kill his (Obama's) chances, nothing will."

Osama's, too.

Leni

116 posted on 06/18/2008 11:03:48 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home or vote Barr for Obamination, more Taxation, Regulation, Litigation and Ginburgization)
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To: RaceBannon

So Obama makes the stretch that our failed policies have resulted in the continual release of audio tapes (”unquestionably” from Osama) in which he admits responsibility for 9-11, yet were Bin Laden captured and brought under US jurisprudence, he should be afforded the assumption of innocent-until-proven guilty?

Barry, ya can’t have it both ways...


117 posted on 06/18/2008 11:07:03 AM PDT by mikrofon (Do NOT doubt the Obamassiah!)
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To: mgc1122

“Johnny Mac needs to grab onto this one with both hands and run with it.”

Except, of course, Mac agrees with Obama on this.


118 posted on 06/18/2008 11:07:42 AM PDT by Bull Market (Do you like McCain? Then be a maverick just like him, and vote for Barack Obama!)
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To: caseinpoint

>>>>>While you can punish through the court system attempts at crimes and conspiracies, it is largely ineffective to prevent future acts. Try calling the cops if you suspect a crime will go down soon.<<<<

Any future KSMs will say “Oh hello FBI/CIA/DSS/Delta. I want a lawyer and a habeas corpus hearing in DC before I say anything else. Thanks.”

In fact KSM *did* say just that at the time of his capture in Pakistan, he didn’t realize that the rules had (temporarily) changed. So now everything is back to normal, pre-9/11 civilian legalisms and that kind of request must be honored.

BTW, KSM earned his mech. engineering degree in South Carolina, speaks fluent English, and like most AQ terrorists was trained in how to behave if captured.


119 posted on 06/18/2008 11:08:23 AM PDT by angkor (Conservativism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: All
This what you wanted....Supremes?
120 posted on 06/18/2008 11:09:33 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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