gay Bishop Gene Robinson of course...
Posted on 06/22/2008 11:19:03 PM PDT by neverdem
As gay couples race to the altar in California this week, scientists may have found an answer to the so-called gay paradox. Studies suggest that homosexuality is at least partly genetic. And although homosexuals have far fewer children than heterosexuals, so-called gay genes apparently survive in the population. A new study bolsters support for an intriguing idea: These same genes may increase fertility in women. Despite some tantalizing leads over the past 2 decades, researchers have yet to isolate any genes directly linked to homosexuality. Nevertheless, a number of studies have shown that male homosexuals have more gay male relatives on their maternal lines than on their paternal lines, leading some scientists to suggest that gay genes might be found on the X chromosome. And in 2004, a team led by evolutionary psychologist Andrea Camperio Ciani of the University of Padua in Italy reported that women related to gay men had more children than women related to heterosexual men. The differences were striking: The mothers of gay men, for example, had an average of 2.7 children, compared with 2.3 children for the mothers of heterosexual men. A similar trend held for maternal aunts.
In new work, reported online this week in PLoS ONE, Camperio Ciani and his colleagues used mathematical modeling to see what kinds of genetic scenarios could explain these results. The team looked at more than two dozen possibilities, such as the number of "gay genes" (one or two), how much of a reproductive advantage the genes provided, and whether the genes were located on the X chromosome or other, nonsex (autosomal) chromosomes. The model that best explained the data consisted of two "gay genes," with at least one on the X chromosome. These genes increased the fertility of women but decreased it in men--a phenomenon previously studied in insects and mammals called "sexual antagonism."
Camperio Ciani's team suggests that these gay genes may actually increase how attracted both men and women are to men rather than making gay men more "feminine," as some researchers had earlier proposed. Although this is bad for male fertility, it is good for female fertility and allows such genes to survive at low but stable rates in a population, the authors say.
Dean Hamer, a behavioral geneticist at the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Maryland, who pioneered the search for gay genes, calls the study "an elegant mathematical analysis." He adds that the team has come up with a "simple solution" to the Darwinian paradox posed by homosexuality: "What is a 'gay gene' in a man is a 'superstraight gene' in a woman," he says.
No, abortion would not be made illegal. The TEST for "gayness" would be made illegal and a hate crime, any researcher attempting to develop such a test would be labeled homophobic, and any lab attempting to process such a test would be bombed by ACT-UP
Something that occurs to me is other sexual behaviors/preferences. Why do some heterosexuals prefer oral sex over intercourse for example? Or one position over another. Some like feet. Some like amputees. Is that preference genetic? Anyone with Google can catalog 1000’s of sexual preferences. Sex isn’t one dimensional for heterosexuals either.
It is a stretch for me to conclude that homosexual activity is not just another preference on the vast landscape of sexual proclivities.
There is no gay gene.
this is way too much before morning coffee
There is a good example of a gene that induces male infertility, that still persists in the population. The gene is a sex-linked gene, residing on the X chromosome. The condition is known as androgen insensitivity syndrome.
Women may function as carriers. One half of their XY offspring will be affected by the trait. Half of their daughters wil be carriers.
The trait does not adversely affect female fertility. However, an XY individual carrying the gene will be infertile. The individual will also have the appearance of being female, but sterile in the case of complet androgen insensitivity. Cases of partial androgen insensitivity will result in an apparent male will impaired fertility.
The condition persists, because it does not impair female fertility.
Yeah, gay genes benefit women by producing more hair stylists, fashion designers, and interior decorators.
Liberals truly are insane. They claim that gender is just a social construction which doesn’t really exist. They claim that race is just a social construction which doesn’t really exist. They claim that an unborn child is a “part of a woman’s body” despite the fact that it has different DNA from the mother (half of which came from the father). But then they do a 180 and are adamant that a freak abnormality which occurs largely in people who don’t reproduce is genetic and inherent while gender, race, and sperm are not.
Gotta love the stupidity of liberals, as well as their deviousness.
And that is why there are no gays in my family. I am the family historian and would know if there were. Anyway, they also seemed to have taken over other channels besides LOGO, Bravo, IFN, etc. They now have totally polluted HGTV. Almost unwatchable now.
Brought to us by the same “scientific” community that brought us Global Warming? Yeah, real reliable.
And those statistics are just as easily “proven” to be environmentally based, not genetics. If a homosexual has an identical twin, is is fairly certain that that twin is raised in the same environment...
Yep. It seems like one "couple" in three or more was "partners". I guess the interior decorator's lobby has some pull there somewhere, trying to make that seem "normal". My wife will watch one or two shows, I find a project to work on away from the tube. At least I am making progress on the basement....
There is no "alcoholic" gene. But I believe there is a genetic proclivity to addiction that involves chemical reaction to different stimuli. Different people react differently to those stimuli (such as alcohol or other chemicals). But again, environment also makes a major impact on the equation.
But just like Darwins missing link they are still searching for the elusive gay gene.
gay Bishop Gene Robinson of course...
“Liberals truly are insane. They claim that gender is just a social construction which doesn’t really exist. They claim that race is just a social construction which doesn’t really exist. They claim that an unborn child is a “part of a woman’s body” despite the fact that it has different DNA from the mother (half of which came from the father). But then they do a 180 and are adamant that a freak abnormality which occurs largely in people who don’t reproduce is genetic and inherent while gender, race, and sperm are not.
Gotta love the stupidity of liberals, as well as their deviousness” ~ puroresu
Yep. What you mentioned is just the tip of the iceberg, though. bttt
Wednesday, January 04, 2006
Progressive Personality Disorder
http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/2006/01/progressive-personality-disorder_04.html
The following is based on a very perceptive post by someone named **John Moore, which I found through a link to a link on *Dr. Sanity’s grand rounds of the psychosphere today.
It looks as if it were hastily composed in a manic burst of inspiration, but it’s so good, and so accurate, that it deserves wider dissemination. I’ve taken the liberty of cleaning it up, editing it a bit, adding a few things here and there, and putting it in the format of the DSM. However, most of the credit is due its perceptive author, the above-referenced John Moore.
I’ve also taken the additional liberty of altering the name of the condition, from his “Cognitive Disorder of Progressives” to “Progressive Personality Disorder.” This is because Moore’s nomenclature implies that this is an Axis I condition, generally meaning a short-term change in functioning, such as a time-limited anxiety or depressive disorder. Axis I conditions usually involve temporary states rather than permanent traits.
On the other hand, Axis II is primarily reserved for the Personality Disorders, which are much more difficult to treat, as they involve enduring patterns of maladaptive thought, behavior or emotion that lead to either significant functional impairment or subjective distress—for example, Paranoid, Narcissistic, or Borderline Personality Disorders. When a person suffers from a personality disorder, much of their condition involves acting out in the world rather than harboring internal “neurotic” conflict within oneself.
As often as not, the person with a personality disorder causes as much or more pain and difficulty for those around them than they do for themselves. It is fair to say that most people with a personality disorder don’t ever recognize that they have one. When they come in for treatment, it is usually for some ancillary problem that is caused by the personality disorder, such as difficulty forming stable relationships, identity disturbance, poor self esteem, impulsivity, sexual identity confusion, chronic dissatisfaction, etc. Ultimately their problem does not revolve around the “content” of their mind so much as its very structure. Typically, an individual with a personality disorder has damaged psychological structure as a result of early childhood experience. And the damaged structure typically takes the form of inability to auto-regulate in one or more areas, such as emotion, self-esteem, impulse control, mood, or identity.
Personality disorders virtually always involve others as an intrinsic part of the condition. Therefore, politics is often an ideal forum for anyone with a personality disorder. In the field of politics, such individuals are given sanction to act out various conflicts in an entirely insight-free way. Politics truly is a sort of show business for the unattractive—the psychologically unattractive.
If you want to get a feel for this Personality Disorder, just try dipping into dailykos or huffingandpissed.
******
DSM-IV 301.95 PROGRESSIVE PERSONALITY DISORDER
A. A pervasive pattern of progressive political thought and action, rooted in discredited leftist beliefs, beginning in early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by at least five of the following:
1. Utopian thinking - A delusional belief that there exist simple, linear, side effect-free solutions to all social problems. (Note to clinician: please differentiate between wishful thinking and psychotic delusions of grandeur.)
2. Anthroplastic ideation - The delusion that behavioral conditioning performed by the government or some other collective will cure all behavioral and social problems. Implicit in this delusion is the idea that human beings are infinitely malleable and subject to behavioral manipulation leading to perfect control and predictability. Free will and personal conscience are devalued or denigrated.
3. Anti-theistic rebellion - An emotional antagonism to the Judeo-Christian tradition, rooted in an abnormal persistence of adolescent rebellion (may also be related to the need to avoid counter-arguments that would question utopian, anthroplastic ideation). This behavior ranges from a mere antagonism to Christianity to a hatred of all forms of religion. (Generally the more Western a religion is, the more it is despised. Thus, these patients may openly accept more primitive pantheistic, pagan, or animist belief systems, such as wicca or “new age” philosophies.)
4. Naturist delusion - The belief that mankind is evil and nature is benign. The incidence of this symptom is inversely related to practical knowledge and experience of nature. Collective self-hatred is a feature in this area. Typical thinking includes the paranoid belief that mankind is a cancer on earth and that the planet (subjectively felt as a feeling being) will “retaliate.” The naturist delusion includes considerable cognitive dissonance, since the typical Progressive Personality is a believer in evolution, which has resulted in untold suffering and cruelty in the natural arena, mitigated only by mankind’s presence.
5. Environmental spasm - Chaotic, unreasonable, or incoherent episodes of manic activity on behalf of the environment or “mother nature.” The delusional nature of this activity is evidenced by the misanthropic attacks on all works of man, and also by the manic focus on visible or totemic biological objects of little actual worth. The patient is typically obsessed only with cute or cuddly creatures, often a displacement of the nurturing urge (which is not infrequently unfulfilled due to abortion).
6. Control obsession - The tendency to strive for excessive control over others through government intrusion. A projection of the unconscious oral envy into anonymous others, which, when “fed,” is subjectively experienced as “compassion” for them.
7. Racist/feminist hypocrisy - Passionate advocating of government-enforced discrimination based on sex or race, while aggressively proclaiming opposition to policies which are “racist” or “sexist.”
8. Overemotional perception - Excessive concern with how a social action “looks” or “feels,” to the exclusion of actual effects in the real world, in particular, any effects beyond the immediate. Resistance to, and denial of, objective evidence proving the adverse consequences of progressive policy. Superficial cognition about most matters of significant import, as the progressive personality relies on the “feel” of issues rather than truly understanding them.
9. Sexual dysfunction - Significant anxiety about sexual matters, manifested as:
a. Obsession with sexual and gender roles.
b. Passionate celebration of nontraditional sex roles and preferences.
c. The compulsion to define individuals by their “sexual preference” and to design social policy as if all individuals share the obsession.
d. An inordinate interest in preserving inappropriate, lewd, or antisocial forms of sexual expression.
e. Fascination with immature or deviant expressions of sexuality; reduction of human sexuality to animal sexuality.
UPDATE:
I’m sure readers will be able to think of additional diagnostic criteria for the Progressive Personality Disorder. Here are a few obvious ones:
“Unwillingness to defend country when attacked or threatened. Allied with inability to name or recognize evil. General devaluation of the masculine virtues.”
“The fervent belief that all cultures are beautiful except one’s own.”
“Obsession with conformity of thought within a racially diverse population.”
Also the qualifier: “Individual must be at least 18 years of age to qualify for the diagnosis of Progressive Personality Disorder, as many of the criteria are age-appropriate for adolescents.”
* Dr. Sanity http://drsanity.blogspot.com/
** John Moore http://www.tinyvital.com/Misc/PCD.htm
posted by Gagdad Bob at 1/04/2006 09:00:00 AM
Robert W.Godwin [Gagdad Bob] , Ph.D is a clinical psychologist whose interdisciplinary work has focused on the relationship between contemporary psychoanalysis, chaos theory, and quantum physics.
Human beings as the top predator have so many advantages over every other lifeform a relatively slow rate of reproduction is quite enough to insure survival of the species.
We have the luxury of popping out duds and culls by the gazillion, and we do, eh!
Any serious discussions on sexuality must always include environment. There’s simply no other way to seriously discuss the issue. Environment is a very key issue here.
“And those statistics are just as easily “proven” to be environmentally based, not genetics. If a homosexual has an identical twin, is is fairly certain that that twin is raised in the same environment...”
Thus, the much lower statistics for fraternal and adoptive sibs provided alongside the ones you mention. These folks are also likely to be raised in the same environment.
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